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Was just reading through some old things and came across this seems like a Ninja 250R pre-2013 just rebodied interesting but never heard anything about it.
http://www.hisunmotors.com/VETTURINO...l#.VVUCvflVgSU
http://www.hisunmotor.com.cn/list-81.html
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It does look interesting. Same specs? :scooter:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kennon
Power is a little down could be the injection system, quality or fuel octane rating for this reason. It wouldn't surprise me if it the older Ninja 250 design was sold.
It is possible. The original owner can earn $$$ and ensure some continuity by getting the new owner to purchase other items along the way. Keep the suppliers going too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kennon
I would say it has the frame and engine of Ninja 250, not the induction system though. Hisun added EFI and in that could not attain the original performance specs.
The Ninja 250 evolved, from carbureted to EFI, in that consider the price differences between the Hisun and Ninja.
The 250 has evolved in most markets to either 300 or the 250SL the former twin is $1,100.00 above the Hisun price in the US.
The good people at Hisun should wake up, I wonder if they have even sold one of those in the USA?
Consider what Lifeng is doing with a 320cc twin that is not as nearly as good of an engine, theoretically it’s not as good of an engine as the actual real Kawasaki engine. Hisun is only offering the engine in one model?
If there was a line of models focused on that engine it do well, but only if they had a talented design engineer, unfortunately those seem to be rare…few and far between.
Then you have Bennche that claimed quality problems out of Hisun and solved that by checking them in a warehouse in Texas slapped them with images of a Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders and American Flags, they shot Hisun in the foot, it’s like a hurray for us but it’s also a fuck you to the supplier. Then you have the whole Megelli debacle, they lost the contract to OEM those.
I am not saying that Hisun should copy Lifengs models, what they could do is work with either Jiajue or XGJAO to develop models around the engine.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...0_engine_8.jpg
Maybe they did buy a license from Kawasaki for the engines, if they did and in that are limited that make sense as to why they are holding it like it some precious gem. Zongshen is much more strategic, they sell their engines to everyone, getting them out into the markets is imperative, it lowers the costs of production and also quickly recovers development costs.
The Ninja 250R is still made for 250cc license markets such as Indonesia, Japan and others. To me the frame looks to be the 2008-2012 model Ninja 250R that started as carb only and stayed that in the states but was changed to EFI for other countries, I doubt it is running a Kawasaki EFI system even so some time tuning the injection and better fuel quality should bring it to that of a carb Ninja 250R.
I agree the design needs to be better Megelli is kicking about again would be cool to see this engine in a new Megelli sports bike would shake of all the bad deals of the previous Megelli bikes. As a motorsport engineer I would happily convert someones design into a model if Hisun would be interested in hiring me to do so.
Megelli is no longer associated with Hisun , they shifted production to Zongshen last year. Which makes sense, since Zongshen was already the OEM for the NC250 engine. Zongshen developed the EFI, with Delphi. They in return evidently got retail rights in China for the bikes, they sell them as a Zongshen Lighting and Thunder in China.
Megelli is working on its channels, their functional chain to the markets. Unfortunately the bikes got some bad reviews for quality and product support.
Some concepts…for the EX250
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...8134f51445.jpg
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This one is my favorite...
to me its like a poor mans R9
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...b892db8d19.jpg
This one is interesting.
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...e31b43bd45.jpg