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American Lifan has released it’s 2011 models….if you find any of these appealing I would suggest you locate a local dealer and ask about availability and pricing…feel free to share any findings with the rest of us.
LF250-19
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...lf250-19_T.jpg
LF250GY-7
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y..._lf250GY-7.jpg
LF200GY-5
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...4_200GY-5A.jpg
Here it is if you have a sincere interest in any of these fill out the survey and in that action I would suggest you check yourself for both sincerity and realism.
Oh never mind the survey is closed, it closed on 03-15-2011 LOL
It got a whopping one vote….
I sent them an email
“ your survey closed 03-15-2011 you may want to consider getting your shit together”
The LF250-19 looks very sweet! http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjE2NTQyODk2.html
Is this available in China?
Here is the one I want.
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...0iii_trike.jpg
I dig the 3-wheeler--really, I do!
I like the GY-7 motard, actually, all 3 bikes you posted! Hope they don't try to get too arrogant again, though. They were getting a little cocky a few years ago...
And the new GY-5 looks like it will be a 200cc bike rather than a 250. The updated design looks like it will have a fairly stout frame.
Saw them in ChongQing at the show...
http://www.contactdi.com/Processed/CQ046.jpg
http://www.contactdi.com/Processed/CQ049.jpg
Seems that Lifan has some interesting stuff, but I don't think any of it is available in China. Man, their websites and photo's are so bad, at least make the stuff look good.
Cheers!
ChinaV
I agree with your opinion of their photos vs. yours! Why are you so concerned that they aren't selling their offerings in China? :eek2: Oh, that's right--you don't have enough bikes!! :eekers::eekers::lol8::lol8::icon10:Quote:
Originally Posted by ChinaV
I was looking at their site www.americanlifan.com and came across this: http://www.americanlifan.com/trophykart.html Interesting.... :naughty:
The new GY-5 is supposed to be available first and then the GY-7 in May and the LF250-19 in August 2011.
So actually it’s only a revised GY-5 that’s coming….and yeah they do not have any quality marketing photos for those! Just one cartoon like image….
Does it really take that long to get a model EPA approved? If it does then that’s a matter of timing the marketing and introduction in alignment with that actual time-line.
Then there is the whole issue of supporting the previous models, nothing about Lifan’s approach is confidence inspiring.
If the GY-5 is new then they should just replace it in the line-up and offer detailed pictures, pricing and color option. Is it going to be offered with street tires and a dual sport model or what….who knows it anybodies guess.
Something is wrong with these people...very wrong. The use of the Chevy emblem is disturbing. They take an approach that is supposed to attract and it repels. When you click on the image of the GY-5 it opens a link to a go kart that looks like a dodge charger front end with a Chevy emblem?Quote:
Originally Posted by culcune
What? Get over it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MJH
Hum, no dealers in the North East.... Can Lifan's be ordered?
What's the difference between the GY-5 and GY-7?
the GY-5 is a 200cc air cooled engine, the GY-7 is a water cooled 250ccQuote:
Originally Posted by CantDecide
The LF250-B retails for about $2,700, sports the same engine as the LF-250-19 and its not anything to get overly excited about with 18.5hp, however the price is pretty good though.
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...FAN/250_15.jpg
The engine is knock off of Yamaha V-star 250 and Lifan also offers a 400cc version which also was called a Virago it has a shaft drive….
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...00-LIFAN-2.jpg
Yamaha 250
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...0_21823721.jpg
Yamaha 400
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...1281487893.jpg
The LF250-19 is knock off of Honda VTR…but it likely has the Yamaha V-250 knock off engine implanted in it.
LF250-19
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y.../Lifan250V.jpg
VTR250
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...ing_Yellow.jpg
I am not sure what engine the LF250-19 has in it? It would be cool if it had a version of the original Honda...but I just doubt it does the original is water cooled.
American Lifan has model on its web site, the v-twin bobber…but they do not offer any info on the bike….it's actually a CP250 and here is one for sale.
http://www.toolstorechicago.com/current/250chopmb.jpg
http://www.cycletrader.com/find/list...P250--97860584
I asked why do they advertise what they do not have available for sale….they do it to see if anyone is interested in them. But the thing is how does the interest get presented other then people buying them? Dealers do not really know what the customer they never met really wants.
The survey results.Quote:
Originally Posted by MJH
Pretty funny, MJH. I'm guessing maybe you were the sole respondent?
cheers
Not me...it was closed when I got to it...Quote:
Originally Posted by euphonius
I thought that was the case, but MJH's initial post calls it the LF250 GY-5, so I was confused. I would definitely consider the standard or the GY-7 if I could find one in New England.Quote:
the GY-5 is a 200cc air cooled engine, the GY-7 is a water cooled 250cc
I changed it…the GY-5 is the mainstay in the Lifan models, 200cc, 163FML engine on the newer bikes are all over head cam the older OHV…came in blue and red mostly with a big 5 on them. http://www.cruiserscustomcycle.com/images/8_200GY5.JPG
The GY7 and the LF250-19 may show up eventually….when they do they may or may not be priced realistically. The new GY-5 may or may not be priced realistically either, the current versions sold for under $2,000.00 new and most people picked theirs up for less then that.
Lifan stopped selling the bikes to online vendors and in what they called a crack down. But dealers can and do ship the bikes. If you are in Boston then there is dealer in Hyannis….http://www.jmrhondasuzuki.com/
That dealer also offers Qlink and they cost more and are consider better bikes all around. Qlink may eventually be offering a 250cc model that all of us have been waiting on…an actual 250cc single with four valves and 20hp. The Lifan water cooled GY-7 is suspect too many…more power but it has not been proven yet other versions of the water cooled have not been received that well…people would rather have an air cooled then a Chinese water cooled as in less to break and in that less to have to try to find parts for.
Lifan is expanding….
Its my opinion that a distributor that has multiple centers does better…Lifan now has two one in Texas and another in Southern California and plans to open a third in Florida. That’s smart logistics creating shorter distances between centers and dealers.
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...alifornia2.jpg
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...ifornia1-1.jpg
Thanks of these pics, the official Lifan pics are terribad crap - and some propeller head has even "watermarked" one :frump:Quote:
Originally Posted by ChinaV
I hope the new and improved GY-5 remains the mainstay at a good price. I believe the GY-7 is OEM'd by Shineray (if I remember, Hi-Bird and Shineray manufacture for Lifan--kind of difficult to pin down who manufactures what :confused1::eek2:)Quote:
Originally Posted by MJH
I wonder if Qlink's 250 will simply be Qingqi's 250? I had received teaser up-coming product photos from Qlink last summer, and they showed the Shineray water-cooled 250 motard and enduro called the XF250 and XP250 in their photos.
However, CCW will have the Qingqi 250 (I hope they use the Suzuki-derived engine!), so not sure if there will be US exclusivity deals going on or what. I do remember Crazy Carl mentioning a few years ago that Qingqi was not happy with their deal with Qlink :deal:, but that was when Johnny Tai was the head guy at Qlink's US operations, so perhaps there was some personal issues between Tai and Qingqi??
What I am happy with is that the GY-5 looks to be improved, and it was a good bike in its old form. The 250 street bike looks sporty enough. The 250 cruiser looks high-quality to compete with the entry level bikes (I used to work with a guy who lived in Mexico and commuted to work in Arizona with me) who had a Suzuki 250 cruiser, and he paid $4k for it).
I wish Lifan luck. I hope they become more professional as they mature here. There was a lot of issues with them a few years back as a company. Remember how they were literally laughing at people who had bought "non-American Lifan" GY-5 bikes and couldn't register them and would not allow parts to be sold for them or other "non-American Lifan" bikes? I remember another issue was when they, themselves had 'dumped' a bunch of GY-2 bikes to another districutor, which were American Lifan bikes and admitted as such, and people could not register those, and AL washed their hands and would not help those people, either, although they were not laughing at them (not publicly at least).
AL look promising.
Culcune - CCW manufactures at Rhon using the lifan 250 Single Cyl which is based on the Honda CG200-250 OHV pushrod. The bikes are totally proprietary, unlike the Johnny Pag bikes.
Their Hooligun chassis seems to be Qingqi-sourced; however I have seen other 'manufacturers' sites who offer what look to be the Qingqi but not with the Suzuki-based engine; probably a Qingqi chassis with another engine. CCW show the 125 Hooligun without the Suzuki-based engine offered for Europe. So, Gardo, you might have pointed out something--they will throw in their own engine into a Qingqi chassis. I am still crossing my fingers for the Suzuki-based engine....Quote:
Originally Posted by Gardo