BMW F800S Yellow stolen in Beijing! Plz contact if you see it.

Hi,

My BMW F800s was stolen from The Place mall in Beijing with both the handlebar lock and a wheel lock on it.

Description:

Yellow 2009 BMW F800s - only only ever seen in Beijing
Has a BMW storage box on the back for helmet / gloves
* Box has a white Arai Corsair-V helmet and a pair of black Dainese gloves with yellow stitching

Will pay reward if found. 15911096969 -Chris

Thanks,

--Chris

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Originally Posted by cpfeiffer

Hi,

My BMW F800s was stolen from The Place mall in Beijing with both the handlebar lock and a wheel lock on it.

Description:

Yellow 2009 BMW F800s - only only ever seen in Beijing
Has a BMW storage box on the back for helmet / gloves
* Box has a white Arai Corsair-V helmet and a pair of black Dainese gloves with yellow stitching

Will pay reward if found. 15911096969 -Chris

Thanks,

--Chris

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Hi Chris


You need to post some pictures of the bike if you have and post the Vin number so people when see a bike that could be yours then the people could check to see if the vin number is the same

Hope it can be found

VIN WB10216067ZP22843Attachment 13825

will remember it and keep my eyes open.
Not sure, but maybe find support in the chinese biker community too?
Sounds like stolen with truck support. I dont believe they broke the handle bar lock and wheel lock. .... 4guys and a truck to load in???

OK Chirs

we keep my eye our around here . there is a big bike meet at Changping just north of Beijing over the weekend 12th/13th next month will keep a eye out for it . I only ride with Chinese guys and all the riders dont leave the bike wear it is not in veiw we stop for food and if we cant see the bike as we eat we move on.... when we stop at Hotels if the hotel dont have 24 hours gaurds we move on !!!

I am sorry happy i dont live in a big city my bike is parked outside my flat no locks on and boy would it be hard for someone to nick it people have to go through 2- 24hr gaurds gates to get to my bike and at the first gate all vans are checked with the 2nd gate NO vans are allowed in without a pass and then the van is checked on the way out and all the gaurds know my bike ! and all gate have CCTV as well so its not like someone could give the gaurd a few $ to look the other way . But we all think it cant happen to me .... so sorry to hear about your bike its just piss me of when it happens ..


Hope we can find it but you need to post on 1 of the chinese forum as well

good luck

So sorry Chris

Yes, get the notice on the local Chinese boards asap. Two I'd recommend are here (linked to the page you want to post it on):

http://www.weifengtang.com/bbs/forum...mdisplay&fid=7

http://www.motorfans.com.cn/bbs/f_118.htm

If you don't have a means to post in Chinese, PM me.

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Originally Posted by Lao Jia Hou

So sorry Chris

Yes, get the notice on the local Chinese boards asap. Two I'd recommend are here (linked to the page you want to post it on):

http://www.weifengtang.com/bbs/forum...mdisplay&fid=7

http://www.motorfans.com.cn/bbs/f_118.htm

If you don't have a means to post in Chinese, PM me.

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Good man Lao Jia Hou

Help him if you can hope Bikerdoc see the post so he can keep a eye out down that end

Hi Chris

sorry need to say post the km/miles as well because sometime if you start looking for the vin number people could get pissed off but i qiuck look or ask the person how many km/miles it has done will make it easy to see if it could be your bike

Will keep an eye out for it.

Chris

You've probably already done this but ... did you check with The Place property management and/or the security guys that hang around out front, by the driveway entrances?

If, in their "opinion", you parked your bike in the wrong location, they may have moved it somewhere that doesn't detract from the so-called curbside beauty of The Place.

I once saw some "security" guys move a bike from outside a Shangri La Hotel - they put the front wheel on one of those hand carts, and moved the bike to a less-conspicuous location (around the block). I don't know what happened with the owner.

Was this a legal plated bike or a stolen from HK?

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Originally Posted by ZMC888

Was this a legal plated bike or a stolen from HK?

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Thats being hard "2 wrongs don't make a right"

OK, duly noted. I'll do some asking round in my circle of riding contacts, and keep an awareness round these parts.

But if it has been stolen, by anyone more than amateurish, the bike will be either be disassembled pretty quick smart; VIN and such like will be changed - pretty easy to do when one knows how. Or if not, then the bike will make its way into the stolen/illegal bike supply chain.

Important note: parking a bike in a compound/car park even with controlled access gates, BaoAn's, CCTV cameras and what might appear to be good relationships with the compound BaoAn's doesn't guarantee that the bike can't be stolen. A search here and elsewhere reveals more than one or two stories where motorcycle owners, parked bikes in compounds/underground car parks etc, where BaoAns were known to bike and rider/owner, CCTV were present, rider/owner took precautions and yet bike still gets stolen...

If it really does enter the illegal bike market, it's a good idea to check sites like 58.com and ganji.com. Might show up there. Repainted, no vin, no topbox, of course.

Hi guys, I bought that cheap GPS tracker off of taobao and I'll make a detailed video on how to install it and how it works, I have a feeling that these little things will help prevent this sort of crap from happening again in the future! Sorry for your loss mate and a plague on the family of the bastard who stole it.. Attachment 13833

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Hi guys, I bought that cheap GPS tracker off of taobao and I'll make a detailed video on how to install it and how it works, I have a feeling that these little things will help prevent this sort of crap from happening again in the future! Sorry for your loss mate and a plague on the family of the bastard who stole it.. Attachment 13833

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I have seen the same type on taobao as well but. Do you have to buy a SIM card as well be interested to find out how must it cost to run will be great if you can do some pictures or a video of the install

Will keep am eye out for it. I believe i saw you riding in Lido a couple months back.. as i saw a yellow one... thought that is rare. I have a friend checking the Chinese ads

Hi guys,

Thanks for all the feedback.

When I bought the bike, I was told I would get a plate and blue book. I did indeed get them a few days later - yet they didn't match. At the time, it was my very first bike and I was pretty accustom to seeing non-plated cars and bikes everywhere. The bike was stolen within 3 month of when I got it; it was the BaoAn at Suncity apartments. They got fired; I got my bike back. They unsuccessfully attempted to hotwire the bike. So, the computer was locked. I had to call BMW-Germany to get it reactivated, that included providing my passport info, the VIN, and talked with people at BMW in both Germany and in Beijing. BMW-Germany gave BMW-Beijing the required information to reactivate the computer. At that time, the bike was (at least in BMW's eyes) mine.

All has been fine for the last 1.5 years. Now, some guys in a white van (from talking with people around the area) took the bike. I certainly would like to have it recovered - even my helmet and gloves are in the box. I understand the arguments stated above; and with that said, my next bike will be directly bought through an authorized dealer. The ability to drive anywhere outside of Beijing with zero concern is too big a benefit.

In reality, anyone's bike could have been stolen from The Place. It is to everyone's interest for the bike thieves to be caught. Or to at least remind people that locking the steering column and also using a wheel lock doesn't ensure anything.

hope you get your bike back. just btw are you actually chris Pfeiffer or just a fan ?

Well... I am Chris Pfeiffer the game maker and a fan of Chris Pfeiffer the trick rider. Both of us like the F800s.

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Originally Posted by cpfeiffer

In reality, anyone's bike could have been stolen from The Place. It is to everyone's interest for the bike thieves to be caught. Or to at least remind people that locking the steering column and also using a wheel lock doesn't ensure anything.

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So true - good luck, though. You never know, it might show up. Problem might be proving it is your bike (yet another problem with unregistered bikes). However, your experience/documentation with BMW might help.

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Originally Posted by cpfeiffer

Well... I am Chris Pfeiffer the game maker and a fan of Chris Pfeiffer the trick rider. Both of us like the F800s.

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ok quite a fan of his too and the F800 although I don't think I would want to buy one of his bikes as he certainly uses the full range of the engine rpm , mostly hovering around the limiter

I've installed and tested that GPS tracker, I'm about to write a report including a video

Okay, here's the write-up about the GPS tracker... get one folks, let's not let another MCM bike get swiped! http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/sh...led-and-tested

Bike theft - isnt unique to Beijing, but i'm curious how common it is here ?
is it on the increase ? i suspect certain brands are targetted more than others ?
does anyone have any data on this ? here- like anywhere - i suspect HD is the kind of thing thieves
are looking for ? apparently yellow BMW' s as well ...what are the usual makes getting lifted ?
and what (aside from alarms and gps) are people doing about protecting their rides ?

marc

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Originally Posted by marcrbeaudry

Bike theft - isnt unique to Beijing, but i'm curious how common it is here ?

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Impossible to know because I am sure much of it goes unreported (e.g., illegal bikes getting stolen). Using my own personal proxy, I know many more people in Beijing who have had their motorcycle stolen than I ever knew back home (Canada). Don't know if that says anything.

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Originally Posted by marcrbeaudry

is it on the increase ?

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According to meticulous fact-checking Beijing TV (tongue-in-cheek), motorcycle theft is dramatically increasing each year. BTV is notorious for being anti-motorcycle.

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Originally Posted by marcrbeaudry

i suspect certain brands are targetted more than others ?

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Expensive brands will provide the biggest payday, of course, but they are probably done by pros and quickly moved to other parts of China. Personally, I think that scooters are the #1 target. Very easy to steal and very easy to unload, locally. Reminds me of when everyone rode bicycles in Beijing ... there was a standing joke that your bicycle would be stolen at least once a month, and you'd have to go to the closest "used-bike-market" to buy it back.

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does anyone have any data on this ?

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I've never seen any data although, as noted above, I think any data reporting would be highly suspect.

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and what (aside from alarms and gps) are people doing about protecting their rides ?

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There are Chinese forums which have separate sections where you can post the details of your stolen bike. I have no idea how successful that is. I've heard that some Chinese know where to go look, to buy their bike back. Reminiscent of the bicycle game. The problem an "owner" has with an illegal bike is trying to prove that you actually owned it, in the first place.

Calling the police to report your stolen illegal bike (with fake plates) is akin to reporting that someone has stolen your stash. But who knows - TIC - maybe it is normal for police to get reports of stolen illegal bikes.

My Cf moto 650TR is safe then no one would want to nick it to many things go wrong with the bike . so i dont need a tracker just go down to the nearest breakers yard and find it dumped !!!!

I love my TR

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Originally Posted by marcrbeaudry

Bike theft - isnt unique to Beijing, but i'm curious how common it is here ?

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Not surprisingly, happens here too.

I had a French acquaintance, who had a Buell XB12R.
We shared some info, as I happen to have the same one.
One day he posted it was stolen while parked in downtown Shanghai (...).

Some 9 months later, while riding home, I met a Chinese guy on a XB12R.
We had a chat while waiting in front of the red light, and we ended up at my house.
I made some pictures of his bike, he told me it was for sale.

Only after 2 days the coin felt.
We checked the pictures, and the old owner confirmed it was his bike.

He had the problem the bike was illegal, but we both checked a bit around how to handle it.
We ended up him pretending to be a buyer.
When there and after inspecting the bike, we told the "owner" he was the real owner.
The Chinese guy kind of confessed he knew it was stolen, although I still think he was most likely not the thief.

We threatened to go to the police, but offered him 10K to take the bike.
Going to the police should not have solved the problem, but he should have most likely lost it.
He accepted, bike went back to a very happy old owner.

Seemed the advised transaction of paying "some" is used more often, and it worked for him.

E.

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Originally Posted by 998S

Not surprisingly, happens here too.

I had a French acquaintance, who had a Buell XB12R.
We shared some info, as I happen to have the same one.
One day he posted it was stolen while parked in downtown Shanghai (...).

Some 9 months later, while riding home, I met a Chinese guy on a XB12R.
We had a chat while waiting in front of the red light, and we ended up at my house.
I made some pictures of his bike, he told me it was for sale.

Only after 2 days the coin felt.
We checked the pictures, and the old owner confirmed it was his bike.

He had the problem the bike was illegal, but we both checked a bit around how to handle it.
We ended up him pretending to be a buyer.
When there and after inspecting the bike, we told the "owner" he was the real owner.
The Chinese guy kind of confessed he knew it was stolen, although I still think he was most likely not the thief.

We threatened to go to the police, but offered him 10K to take the bike.
Going to the police should not have solved the problem, but he should have most likely lost it.
He accepted, bike went back to a very happy old owner.

Seemed the advised transaction of paying "some" is used more often, and it worked for him.

E.

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Sorry have i missed something here you gave him 10K rmb to get your friends own bike back ??? sounds like a good deal i think not why not just kick the shit out of him and ask him for 10K sounds about right to me or maybe i am wrong :confused1:

TIC

P.S. sorry just read you post again and your friend was French ok that is fine now

998S all these problems are caused by people knowingly buying illegal bikes. You support the thieves doing this. That french guy NEVER owned the Buell, the ACTUAL owner still lives in Hong Kong most likely. The Chinese guy that bought it never did either. They are just thieves trading in other people's property.

As someone who's had their own registered legal bikes and cars stolen, it just sucks, depression, sleepless nights, anger. Longing for your ride and searching for it. If you're lucky you eventually get the insurance payout (although not in China, because you are not covered for theft) and the wounds slowly heal. To put someone else through that shit or encourage someone else to do it is the action of an incredibly selfish asshole.

I often hear loads of excuses, 'loads of people do it', 'I wasn't sure if it was stolen'. Just nonsense, no registration, no proof of origin, possibly or likely stolen, do not touch it, guaranteed 100% illegal regardless. With 2nd hand legal import bikes, slightly niggly locally made middle-weight bikes and reliable, affordable Japanese branded made in China 125-250cc bikes there is less reason than ever to get involved in that nonsense.