Qjiang QJ600GS / Benelli BJ600GS - rumors thread

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Originally Posted by felix

I'm often disappointed by chinese reviews/reports of chinese bikes. There's the 2nd generation rich kids who will step off their ducati hypermotard say 'chinese piece of shit' before even looking at it, and then there's the china-is-mighty crowd that will hail it as a triumph of creative genius and technical innovation regardless what it is.

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Yeah I get; 'it can't be any good if it only costs that', 'that bike is so-so' with no mention why, or 'it's really good'. Although If the Benelli proves reliable I reckon the it will sell, because it's cheap enough, but at the same time exotic enough to end up in the garages of many people that hardly ever ride, like my neighbor who has a dragstar he rode twice last year down to the shops.

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Originally Posted by soberpete

Two's up on that idea I'd love to do the same thing but I can imagine the majority of the locals getting excited about having an open track to themselves, overdoing it and getting into a real mess. At least in the chaos of city traffic they would feel the comfort of the constant danger restricting them.

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It could work if you made sure everyone had licenses and safety equipment, got four laps each, and paid for extras. You might need to breath test riders in the afternoons!

this would definitely be a alternative to a Yamaha XJ6, would need to look round the whole bike myself to get a real opinion on quality but for the price it does look very good

Its a very good motorcycle on paper, it looks good as well.

It compares really well to the Yamaha XJ6 that sells for about $9,300 in the UK and also the FZ6R that is offered in the US for $7,690.00.

Considering the price of the Benelli it really is not that cheap, not really.

Something interesting is happening, it looks like pricing parity, the theoretical prices in China are or sometimes mirroring a US price point. It could be a result of them pegging on the currency?

The Chinese Market price of $6,309.93 would be a theoretical market price for that model if offered in the US, but it is missing the dealer network that it would require to be successful and also the brand recognition as well.

If it ends up in the UK it would be at least $7,571.92, the difference in pricing in the UK to the US is primarily the 20% VAT

The MSRP already factors in all the margins so the only missing costs is transshipping and that is not that much per unit could add $250-$350 per unit.

It will not likely ever be offered in the US but could be in the UK.

What is missing is this, when I goggle FZ6R service manual I get this result.
http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-Factory.../dp/B002I4IZ7Q

I do not really care what others think…and for confidence in a brand I want access to what is considered universally required by everyone that knows anything and that is access to technical documents and also easy access to parts.

reading a article in MCN from february it estimates £5000 mark once tax has been accounted for, even with confirmation from benelli officials that it will be made available in the UK
Yamaha's used to be cheap to buy bikes but the main problem is that yamaha UK buy off Yamaha Europe who in turn have to purchase of Yamaha Japan which makes some models expensive to buy in the first place this is very dependant on where the bike was built

:rolleyes1: Tomorrow's the day! I wonder what 998S and his friends will decide to do :popcorn:.

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Originally Posted by soberpete

:rolleyes1: Tomorrow's the day! I wonder what 998S and his friends will decide to do :popcorn:.

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Need to have more patients .. Just found out it is a working day tomorrow and Sunday.
They doubt they can get off ... I guess it will be delayed a week :(

Monday/Tuesday/Wednesday is off - no excuses please

Saturday is working day for Motokai, but if the weather is good and the visit happens at lunchtime, I'm game.
But reality is, I really should first fix my wiring issue or I'll never get good "trade-in value" for the JH600! :bling:

Was reading-up more on the BJ600GS on the China forums.
Sometimes for the longer postings I get lazy and will use Google Chrome's Translate feature.

I'd like to share this one posting (courtesy of Google Translate) with all my MCM mates - the translation comes out quite poetic!
And after all it is Spring and we should be celebrating this motorcycle season! Enjoy.........
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I do not like long-winded, not fine assessment, I want to commend the spring breeze and the Qiantang River, the good kind

You fans of the domestic large displacement of our own, salute you
despise those joint ventures, even though you earn take most of the profits of the domestic motorcycle market,
but we look forward to the large displacement, do not you bring.

The comments of the following individuals may make a party fans unhappy,
the original understanding, but also a real
The shape - Huanglong and the spring breeze, two car styling and design,
I think that there is no better or worse, the so-called apples and oranges,
there are people who love, like Huanglong mad batch of spring breeze how ugly,
in turn, like the spring breeze can also be the same mad batch of Huanglong.
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fucking poetic!
you can find the original Chinese text here if curious

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Originally Posted by andre555

Monday/Tuesday/Wednesday is off - no excuses please

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Three days off indeed, I fear for the Benelli shop workers too although i hope I'm wrong.

MotoKai, that was indeed very poetic!
Come to thing of it, all Chinese-English translations could be considered a sort of poetry when it doesn't quite make sense.