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Well, the first one in my group of friends considering the Benelli went for it.
Ordered up this afternoon, paid dear for a Hu A plate (there are no more right now), got the box opened by the magicians of the shop, and made the first 5 km on it.
As I was only there for moral support, l had all the time to check the several bikes and talk to its owners.
I keep saying the bike is greatly built.
And the service engineer even walked around with his laptop, plugging it in on the bikes for a review of all functions!
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"paid dear for a Hu A plate (there are no more right now)"
How much exactly did he pay for the License plate?
Seems there are no Hu A licence plates available right now (confirmed by H-D and Ducati).Quote:
Originally Posted by Topmanda
He bought a plate from the dealer for 76k.
He still thinks it can only go up, guess he is right.
Holy Shit I bought it one month ago for 69K.
I was told Hu C plates are going up now too. Buy today and they are 9000. 2 different shops have told me they will go up to 20000 by January. Take that for what it's worth however, I'm pretty sure that the shop owners would have been happy if this information had persuaded me to buy my bike right then and there.
Just wish Jialing service is as advanced or up-to-date as Qijiang's. JH600's ECU is pretty much a black box right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by 998S
Nicolast, where is this shop exactly, which junction? So far, I've seen the Benelli in the Pubei DZ Motoshop only, but actually I live in Pudong, so would like to take a look at the DePing Lu. Cheers, MaciejQuote:
Originally Posted by nicolast
As Nicolas is on the road these days, here you go:Quote:
Originally Posted by macieq
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There is an other Benelli shop a bit more to the north (some 500 meter), but this one on the corner is the one everyone goes.
That's nice 998S, not too far away from my place. Thanks!
IMO from a aesthetic point of view, the QJ600 is better looking compared to the CF650NK. It just seems more compact and sleeker, it would look even better with a small belly pan.
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I agree, the Benelli is much sexier looking. But what I'm really interested in is how sexy they both look and ride with 30,000 Kms of hard riding n the clock, and how much was spent keeping them on the road.
How I agree, how well designed these are.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZMC888
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Yeah well, the designed is better, but the Benelli is way too tiny /low: I'm 1m79 and I really look like I'm sitting on a toy when on it.
How opinions can differ ... I had a 150km ride on my friend's bike yesterday, and did not feel for one second the bike is small (I am 1.78).Quote:
Originally Posted by Topmanda
I even had a bit of a problem to back out the bike from sidewalk parking, really had to stretch my feet to push it upwards the slightly inclined road.
Yeah, you sit 'on' the bike and not 'in' it, but I guess that is what sportbikes are :mwink:
Nothing but good so far (and oh yah, I changed the front brake pads for some real ones I had laying around to put on my Ducati.
Now the brakes do what they are supposed to do, wow!
Agree with Eric, I am same size as you guys and the bike fit perfectly. Probably the motorbike position you tried was set on low position. I saw some guys putting it very low so they can touch the ground...hehe
Often dirt and dual sport, and touring bike riders get on pure road bikes or sports bikes and complain they are too small, really it's just another type of bike. Personally I'm 1m83 and I really like bikes as small, light and low as I can get away with, as long as I'm not too cramped, but I do long day rides in the mountains on tight very twisty roads, city riding and cart tracks so handling is way more important to me than comfort, but each different rider has their own style and priorities. I'm much more likely to upgrade the tires, suspension and brakes than to bolt on a GPS or panniers.
Off topic slightly, but it's the same in mountain biking, doing technical or knarly riding, always go smaller. Into pure pedalling/cardio, go for exact ergonomic fit.
Like BMX vs Tour de France.
998S, what pads did you change to? Do you think a brake bleed to high quality 5.1 could improve the brakes further, as I have a theory that Chinese bike factories always use cheap DOT 3 or 4 fluid, would you ever degas the fluid?
The only negative thing I experienced yesterday was an increasing chatter in the front while braking, till such extend that I did not feel safe braking while leaning.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZMC888
I know from Nicolas that several riders "upgraded" their front calipers to Frando, but I take the freedom to think that this is useless.
In my experience brake power is more the friction building between rotors and pads, and the materials of both.
So I cleaned the rotors this morning (the whole bike seems to be covered in a kind of wax (probably rust protection), and it is/was also on the rotors.
And I changed the pads to Ferodo sintered pads (forgot the type, might be CP211), the same I use on my track Ducati (and which perform great, even with Chinese made rotors on the Ducati which I tried as an experience).
The chatter is gone for now, and after a bit of braking-in, the rear comes up easily at anything below 20 km/h.
Above that speed, I don't dare to do a stoppy :-)
The master cylinder, although simple, feels hard, and I don't think the lines need to be bled.
Upgrading the fluids to 5.1 is in my opinion only necessary if you do track days, or very spirited mountain riding.
DOT4 is ok for any other use, it is simple less resistant to heat, which breaks down the oil.
I myself had never a problem with DOT4 on the track, just replace it a bit more frequent.
Eric
Being able to do a stoppie easily is always a sign that a brake system is working well :-)
Interesting site, with lots of pictures how the Benelli looks like "under the plastics".
http://www.ijijie.com/Forum10/Topic/5132.aspx
Last post on that thread is August 1. A shame as they were mentioning some future modifications. They certainly don't like the welding job on the gas tank "油箱到处可见未经打磨的“焊屎”！Something about "welding feces"? :lol8::mwink:
Hi... i'm from indonesia. they already open up the show room here, i plan to buy benelli bj600gs too...Quote:
Originally Posted by MJH
i had already booked their silver blade 250cc scooter ( keeway benelli) and want the 600gs...
but i will use the bj600gs in heavy traffic in indonesia... is it posible to use bj600gs in heavy traffic with lots of stop and go?
thanks all
Hi there, I have a friend who has just bought the Benelli Silverblade 250 maxi scoot. I saw it in the flesh last Sunday. After a quick little ride around, I found that it is quite a lively scoot, but very short in wheelbase compared with my Jetmax, and Burgman Executive(s). The wheels are 14" front and rear. The cubby in front is really small and very shallow, can't stash much in it. The key release mechanism for the seat is quite temperamental, I couldn't get it to unlatch the seat, but my friend could. The top-n-tail design of the high versus low beam lights is really different. Air filter sits on the left side of the rear swingarm unlike the Jetmax's airfilter positioned under the forward portion of the seat - design.Quote:
Originally Posted by n893
I think that overall though the handling is quite good, and would definitely be more suitable for riding round town and dealing with stop & start traffic than a BJ600/QJ600 would. You won't have to worry so much about gears, clutch and the grabbing of a chain final drive. YMMV.
My same friend has 3 BJ600's sitting in his garage, owned by his nephews. They don't ride them around town/city... instead they use scooters for that type of riding.
Hi Bikerdoc... its a very great input...
thanks it's really help...
btw can it possible to use bj600gs for stop n go in traffic? because i try to just idle it for about 45minuts and H2O warning start comeout at the lcd...
and when i turn the key off the water start steaming from the radiator waste pipe under the crank case...
i dont know is it ok or just the model in that show room made that wierd steaming...
thanks again...
Hi guys, that's such a disaster has occurred here in Russia, one of the owners of Benelli 600: (
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That looks very weird damage, with the pistons rather intact (sort of), but the conrod bent like that....Quote:
Originally Posted by Sergio_Carlione
What happened?
That has to be some sort of Hydro lock issue. Water or coolant leaked into the cylinder and water does not compress.
That was my initial thought as well, but no start motor will have the force to do such damage with one of the chambers "locked", and it can't fill up so quick during normal running.Quote:
Originally Posted by TexasAggie
Or it was a catastrophic valve failure, the valves blocking the piston from rising.
That might happen when you rev engines in neutral at their rpm limiter for a longer time.
Seems a popular doing on youtube and youkou.
Must be a lot more behind this story ... very interesting to know ...