Re: New ECU Behaving Weird
ZMC888, well yeah, the local CFMoto dealership guys would probably do the same. My mechanic though won't. Unfortunately, the mechanic I have been working with for the last 5 years or so doesn't have equipment to diagnose my ECU (or any other ECU for that matter).
What I am doing tomorrow is:
1. Go to CFMoto dealership and ask them if they have diagnostic equipment that would work with my bike.
2. If yes, read errors from my old ECU and see what the matter is (15 short flashes). Reset old ECU and see if the error message repeats.
3. If the old ECU work fine, keep it. If not, use the new ECU and reset the TPS so that it works with the new ECU.
4. If they have no equipment (which is the most likely outcome), screw it - the bike works more or less OK with the flashing warning light. Sell it to some Chinese dude ASAP telling him that this is the "luck light" (hence red color) or something.
Ignition Warning Light Again
Right. So after a week of trouble-free riding the warning light has come on again. This time it is different, though.
This time it is one long, one short, then repeat.
No idea what causes it since the bike is idling / riding just fine. By the way, the light doesn't come on when idling. It comes up when riding only.
This time I won't go to the service shop since I can't find any problem with the riding experience.
Will see what happens next.
Re: Ignition Warning Light Again
According to the look-up table in the manual...
1 (L. F.) + 1（S. F.）= ERROR_I NJ1 (1 cylinder injector) _SC
L.F. = Long Flash
S.F = Short Flash
S.C. = Short Circuit to battery
Checked both EFI code look-up tables in two 650NK manuals I have, to cross reference the code and they are the same. What I found interesting when I crossed reference this to the look-up table in the 650TR/TK manual there are no codes in single digits (0-9) or the teens (10-19). Codes start from the number 20+ and there are none related to the specific error listed above.
Rain and CFMoto 650 NK Electrics
There is this really weird thing: when the bike is wet (e.g.: has been left out in the rain for an hour), the electrics work fine. When the bike is dry, some stuff is bound to go wrong, flash errors and otherwise malfunction.
Example 1: When my left handlebar blinker switch started malfunctioning, it would work only in the rain or after being splashed with a glass of water. Otherwise left / right blinkers just won't come on.
Example 2: After sitting in the rain overnight (no cover no nothing), the "1 long, 1 short" error code magically disappeared. The bike ran fine without the code flashing until it dried up. After about a 40-minute run, when the engine was warm enough and most of the bike dried up, the error code started flashing again.
This is not a one-time thing, it's a regular occurrence - the bike sat in the rain for the whole afternoon, I started it up - no error code.
Since this never happened to any of my bikes before (for all I know, the presence of water doesn't sit well with electrical lines), I got no idea what this may be indicative of. Am I missing something here? Guys, I'm very interested for your suggestions.
Thanks in advance!
Re: Rain and CFMoto 650 NK Electrics
Are you sure it is 1 long and one short?? as then there will be 3 flashes... one really long (indicates between error codes) then one little shorter and then short.. if you only get 2 flashes is it 1 and it is TPS low.
Re: Rain and CFMoto 650 NK Electrics
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Wald0
Are you sure it is 1 long and one short?? as then there will be 3 flashes... one really long (indicates between error codes) then one little shorter and then short.. if you only get 2 flashes is it 1 and it is TPS low.
Right - there's one really long flash and then a short one. So, low TPS it is. Do you know if there's any way I could deal with it? Thank you!
Re: Rain and CFMoto 650 NK Electrics
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Steve_Halt
Right - there's one really long flash and then a short one. So, low TPS it is. Do you know if there's any way I could deal with it? Thank you!
Basically only way is to go to maintenance and tell them to reset TPS from ECU as out bikes it is not adjustable, but that said you can try to move it little by opening TPS locking bolt. it does not move much but maybe enough.
Re: Rain and CFMoto 650 NK Electrics
Wald0, thanks! In fact, they performed a reset already and it indeed solved the problem for some time. But then it started blinking again.
Read it on one Russian forum dedicated to CFMoto's scooters that those irregular error codes are the result of some kind of air sensor failure and are a common thing across the line of all CFMoto products (quads, bikes, scoots). They aren't really relevant and can be ignored. It also said that those codes manifest themselves after the bike / scoot has been washed or after it was ridden in the rain since the humid air gets into the air filter and the system readings are incorrect.
I do not know if that is true, and, if yes, to what extend. Just some info to think about.
Re: 3rd Attempt at a Topbox
I did a ride from 30km out of Ningbo heading for SH last Saturday on the CF650TR. Had issues with the smartphone not recharging as I neared Jiaxing (near to SH). After attempting to use new recharging cables via a local China Mobile store (useless), I turned round and rode home. Got back at 9pm. I rode along the HZ bay sea walls on both the Northern and Southern sides for many many km's. 12 hour day in the saddle without many stops, 3 tanks of fuel. Bike performed without incident, however IMO the seat is too narrow and in this heat, uncomfortable. Don't like the 10 degree lean forward either. While I overheated at times (though the mesh jacket coped ok), the bike did not, fan worked a charm and LCD temp gauge stayed at 3 bars the entire time. My destination had been BMW Motorrad SH, instead I drove up on the Monday to look at some new bike options.
I have been using ADLO boxes for years. I have had others brands before but none have lasted long at all. Finally came across an ADLO when I was wondering the HZ motorbike market. It was a 981... and that particular model did real well... 5 years on I still have it. That sat on the rear of my Yamaha XVS1100, and even twice when the box fell off the back (first time was my fault, I hadn't attached it correctly, the second time was after a weeks riding all manner of surfaces that supposedly passed as main roads in Anhui, Jiangxi et al., the locking mechanism actually gave way resulting in the box falling off full of gear - the box stayed intact save for several areas of road rash). Replaced the locking mechanism and all good since.
I've gone on to buy multiple ADLO's, 981's and several 2012's. I'd like the upgrade to the model 2012 @ 35L, superseded by the model 2013 @ 42L, but can't get my hands on one from the factory. Currently have 6 ADLO topboxes in the garage... guess I should sell some
:lol8:
One guy buys ADLO's and rebadges them as BESTEM in the USA... goog.le it... or watch this video V P N required if you are stuck behind the curtain
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Re: 3rd Attempt at a Topbox
From advise from the Doc I to fitted a ADLO top box to my
TR as well, so far but only after 4000 km box is still ok and
With no issues so from me + 1 for ADLO.
Now with the Yamaha YBR fitted a GIVI 39L top box must say its
Better but not the cost heheh so £ for £ and buying from
With in China , ADLO is the way to go IMO
I see from the link your ADLO cost about £14 and the GIVI
Cost me £43 ?
Good deal on the ADLO
When I left China I did have a ADLO box fitted but found out later
after my Shark Evo3 came it would not fit in the ADLO top box
so I needed to buy a lager new one in Thailand
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ADLO top box fitted in China
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Much larger GIVI top box
Re: 3rd Attempt at a Topbox
bikerdoc, prince666, I wish I bought an ADLO box earlier - would have saved me a lot of trouble!
Re: 3rd Attempt at a Topbox
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Steve_Halt
bikerdoc, prince666, I wish I bought an ADLO box earlier - would have saved me a lot of trouble!
I can understand your comment like most of us here we just don't know
until it's to late , but you have sorted it out now that is the main thing Steve
The first top box I fitted on the YBR was not a ADLO and was told
By the Yamaha dealer not to fit it , like most things in life you make your decision , it lasted 1 day hehe . Then I took the advise
Of the dealer and fitted a ADLO box .
Re: 3rd Attempt at a Topbox
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prince666
I can understand your comment like most of us here we just don't know
until it's to late , but you have sorted it out now that is the main thing Steve
The first top box I fitted on the YBR was not a ADLO and was told
By the Yamaha dealer not to fit it , like most things in life you make your decision , it lasted 1 day hehe . Then I took the advise
Of the dealer and fitted a ADLO box .
In fact, lots of Chinese goods are trial and error: phones, laptops, bikes, cars, girlfriends... You name it
Re: 3rd Attempt at a Topbox
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Steve_Halt
In fact, lots of Chinese goods are trial and error: phones, laptops, bikes, cars, girlfriends... You name it
girlfriend ! Hehehe :lol8::lol8::lol8: +1:clap: but did help me to get along visa !
