Congrats on your trip!Quote:
Originally Posted by Golden boy
Can you please tell us about the mods you've done, plan to do and/or recommend?
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Congrats on your trip!Quote:
Originally Posted by Golden boy
Can you please tell us about the mods you've done, plan to do and/or recommend?
I also looking to upgrade my Loncin LX250GY to a 400. If I can only find a secondhand motor in this country. The engine mounting section on the frame of the LX250GY is bolted making the modifications relatively easy. There is no issue with the reliability of the 250 engine but the gear ratio and speed is by design slow on the open road making the bike vulnerable for traffic coming from behind. Most of our open roads are narrow and freeway's traffic are tooQuote:
Originally Posted by Zhaoman
fast, making this bike unsafe from that perspective.
Has anyone heard if Shineray will be releasing any newer versions of this bike that have worked out the earlier kinks? I'm riding a Zongshen RX-3 right now and I know Zongshen has already released at least 1 newer version / model that had some minor differences from the first model. I'm thinking about getting a X5 but maybe its smarter to wait a few more months to see if a newer model will be released. What do you guys think?
Im looking to buy something new soon.... would you recommend the RX3? why are you looking at the X5 having the RX3 now? thanksQuote:
Originally Posted by smr310
Hi man, I just responded to your question in the RX3 threat but I'll post a quick reply here as well. I like the RX3 a lot. Its a very smooth ride and looks damn sexy for a China Bike.Quote:
Originally Posted by kikikillercat
The reasons I'm considering the X5:
400cc vs. 250cc. I WANT TO BE ABLE TO WHEELIE IN SECOND GEAR!!! For anyone with an X5 - can you please confirm the wheelie situation? On the RX3, I can only wheelie (clutch it up) in 1st gear going very slow and its not too much fun...
X5 seems that it would be better off-road. If any X5 owners could confirm this I would very much appreciate it :-)
X5 has a carburettor while RX3 is fuel injected. Carb bike would be nice for fixing yourself, adjusting, and also I plan on riding to Tibet next year which will probably cause problems for a Chinese fuel injected bike.
Hi,Quote:
Originally Posted by smr310
So let me give you a rundown on which modifications I did to the X5 for our 20000 km journey.
Just for the record - I have the first model - still with oilcooling
Luggage rack with two Aluminum side boxes
D.I.D chain
Chrashbars
Handguards + Raisers
Extra LED lights
Extra Fuel bottles
Fuel Filter
Homemade metal Bashplate
High touring Windscreen
Butt friendly seat reshaping
Shorten the sidestand and weld a bigger footplate on (After a while the bike leaned more and more over under the weight and I wish I wouldnt have shortened it)
USB charger to charge up our phones which we used as navigation
almost everything can be found on taobao
I think the improvements besides shortening the sidestand made a big difference.
The main problem is the quality of the materials. The front decorating plastic parts screwdomes are mostly broken and some screws also broke.
The chain adjustment screw broke in the thread which was a bitch to repair.
The Kenda tires are good and if I would do such a trip again I would go with Kendas all the way.
And I woud install a centerstand - and a gripheating for cold days
The rubber chain guard ripped off the screwholes several times and was annoyoing to fix - In the end I just glued it onto the swingarm.
But I know this issue has been fixed on the newer model.
Another problem was the rear suspension - I put the adjustment rings to the hardest setting but when the bike is fully loaded the rear brake would hit the exhaust when you drive through a pothole and punch a hole in it. I fixed that several time and in the end just let it be and it was fine.
That can just be fixed with a stronger spring I guess.
But otherwise the X5 had no big issues.
We checked oil and air every day
We had to exchange brakepads and the rear bearings, but that is normal on such a trip.
on our website are some before - after pictures
http://monkeykings.jimdo.com/bikes/matthias-bike/
Thanks Golden Boy for all of the info!
Another questions for Beijing X5 riders - Does anyone know the best shop in Beijing that carries the X5? I've heard Qili has them. I live around east 5th ring road and would like to find a shop that actually knows about the bike.
EFI generally does not need any tinkering with (remapping) in relation to most elevation changes. Extreme changes might mean that one might need to have the ECU/ECM maps altered where possible (flashed). Carburettor's differ and will need different sized jets if one plans on navigating different altitudes.Quote:
Originally Posted by smr310
Carburettor motorbikes >250cc in PRC don't meet the PRC emission standards which mean such bikes can no longer be legally plated AFAIK. Most motorbikes >250cc are now EFI and those that aren't while still being sold can no longer get plates 100% legally. So it's buyer beAware - like most elements of life in the middle kingdo0m.
As for wheelies (mono's) change the rear sprocket...
I had a test ride on the X5 at the CIMA show last month in ChongQing, at the Shineray test circuit. A few different manufacturers had test areas outside the pavilions. The RX3 was on display but no test rides. Aside from riding the Shineray X5 I also rode the new CFMoto 650NK ABS. Very nice and if the 650NK and the new 150NK are anything to go by then the yet to be released revised 650TR and civilian 650G will likely be significant game changers for CFMoto.
Enough about CFMoto. The Shineray X5 ride started out with an obvious aesthetic issue. The RHS pillion foot peg bracket was snapped off, revealing an ugly obvious appendage. The Shineray reps, would have been better off removing the whole bracket assembly or else getting a replacement bolted on. Maybe to the locals most might have been oblivious, but I'm a details orientated individual, so the broken bracket stood out like a pair of dogs b@lls.
The bike itself was okay. There was an obvious issue in the front end, very light, an issue with the way the bike turned. Very light front end, perhaps bearings needed tightening or the steering head nut itself. The bike seemed powerful enough. Slow speed (walking pace) the ride was fine. No speed wobbles as such when up to speed or under acceleration, nor when coming to a stop. Sorry didn't pull any mono's - not my thing.
If it was me and my money, I'd look past the RX3 and X5 and look at the feasibility of either the SRM 500 or SRM 600 both models are lower down page 2.
IMHO, one gets what pays for... the RX3 and X5 are to my mind and scrutiny - no exception.
Expect issues, failures, frustrations and little resale interest or value.
Hello Guys!! , I wonder if there is and other forum talking about this bike because I haven't sow new posts around here. Do you know if the 2015 model has some improvements? I'm from Chile and I'm planning to import this motorcycle with EFI. But couldn't got any feedback about how the EFI works from a bike owner.
IMHO & FWIW Save your money. I rode the 2015 model X5 at the CIMA show (See my post #309 above). Here's my 0.10c worth of advice.Quote:
Originally Posted by condorpeak
IMO you'd be better off buying a new or near new/used Jap motorcycle. If you can't afford a Jap bike, then start saving. You are likely to experience less agro and buyers remorse. In buying any Chinese made bike, and by the sounds of what you write, dealing with servicing or warranty claims on the X5 would be akin to a hair pulling exercise me thinks on the Shineray IMO. Just have a look at the posts here on MCM where new owners of this, that or the some other Chinese brand MC who is asking for help with this issue or that. Often it is their first post after signing up to MCM. I've lost count of the number of new posters requesting help for their newly acquired Chinese ______ brand/model, that they're having issues with.
Come resale time when you want to off load your X5 there's a good chance you're likely to find fewer interested individuals in comparison to if you were selling a Jap MC, unless you are willing to take a significant hit in the pocket being prepared to almost give the X5 (Chinese brand/model MC) away.
Sounds like you would be a X5 Beta tester in Chile - are you prepared for that? Problem is you don't know what you don't know...
If you're into wrenching and have mechanical aptitude, then cost of ownership might not be such a hard and difficult 'pill to swallow', but on the other hand, if you are prepared to treat the X5 as a cheap? learning platform to get your hands dirty, then maybe it might be an option. Still you could do the same with an older Jap MC too (which would be my choice).
With most PRC MC's it's like trying to polish a turd... or 'putting silk on a goat, it's still a f@7kin goat'.
YMMV
Has anybody bought some off road tyres for the X5 in china and could share the experience and maybe info where to buy?
I have got a 2014 model with carburettor. I have ridden now almost 7k without any problems. Sorry can't help with EFI experience. In general though i can recommend the bike.
I wonder about the oil radiators, don't understand why they took it away. Heren in Chile we could experience in the desert really extremely hot weather. I will consult Shineray if they could put it back again.Attachment 17056Attachment 17057
Condor Peak.
Te aconsejo que no compres un X5. La verdad es que son muy bonitas y las especificaciones son muy tentadoras especialmente cuando tengamos en cuenta el precio ajustado. Pero el X5 es muy débil, se rompen cosas que una moto Japonés tiene por bueno con 15 años de mal trato. Además Shineray es una empresa de cero servicio al cliente. Yo querría comprarme una pero después de enterarme de todos los dolores de cabeza que me provocaría pensaba que ni loco la compro. En fin me compré un Yamaha y estoy tan contento con el resultado.
Saludos desde China
Must be to save money !!! That can be the only reson it's not because a oil cooler is no good for a air cooled engine !Quote:
Originally Posted by condorpeak
Here some report of my recent X5 experience.
After 7500km the clutch let me down. Not quite sure if it was my fault. Did go up a muddy slippery mountain road and had to play with a clutch a lot to prevent the rear tyre to slip. After that i noticed that i could only get power on the wheel when reving high. After stopping i could let the clutch go completely without getting any power. We called it a day and build up our tents. The next morning after a little fiddling around with the clutch cable the clutch was at least good enough to make it back to beijing, still suffering from a slipping clutch. I have now replaced the clutch plates and it is ok again. Besides that still happy with the bike.
The problem Axel describes sounds like the clutch was adjusted to tight before. So it wear out fast.
My X5 was sold at 10k km without any clutch issue and is still now running well as I know.
In my youth I had a 150CC Jawa CZ with cork equipped clutch friction plates. Since that time I was very focused on clutch settings.
From my experience the clutch lever should have about 5mm free play to ensure a slip free clutch.
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Clocked up 10k just now, no big issues. After the slipping clutch problem and replacement of the clutch plate my feeling is the bike is still not 100% like when I bought it. Somehow it feels it does not have the same power. But may be I just imagine it, have been riding a lot of Yamaha enduro bikes lately so maybe I just got used to theses bikes full on power. generally still happy with the x5
Yeah taking the oil cooler off it was a bit mean. Still, you can fit a real nice one on a rainy winter day. Cant see the point of two mufflers on a single,adds weight up high and makes the bike slide sooner. Keep posting about it.
It looks like Honda Africa Twin 1000
Sure when the New Africa twin was still a concept last year
I just took delivery of the latest model of the X5 so i'll write an ongoing review of how the bike holds up during break in and on an upcoming road trip this summer. I've only put 80 k's on it thus far and i have to say, i'm impressed. The new version has the same air-cooled motor, is a little lower than previous models and comes with a pair of metal panniers as standard.
Here's some pics of unpacking and assembling in the freight yard.
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Seems they applied my color ideas published here 3years ago. See post #11
Just last weekend I saw my former X5 is still running well. That should give u confindence :-)
Well done, I look forward to hearing your thoughts on this version.
I think I recognize your assistant!
Never been one to miss a good unboxing. Btw the shiney ray has already had its first tow by big blue. Probably not the last.
You are a good man!:deal:Quote:
Originally Posted by zhu
Hi everyone. My riding partner and I just bought two new 2015 X5. I'm an American and he is a Britt with both of us living in Saudi Arabia. Here the bike is imported as a Suske United. I've searched everywhere and its a Shineray X5.
As stated its a 2015 and has the next gen grey paint job with the world sticker on it. I've read the entire thread here so it took me a couple days to post.
Saudi Arabia is plagued with many quality control issues at the dealerships as it seems some of you have described in China. The set up was terrible by the shop and when the bikes were delivered to us (about 1.25 hrs from the shop) by truck the gas they used for set up had been used up/evaporated and one of the batteries was completely dead.
So not a warm fuzzy feeling from the word go, but that I blame on the shop.
Since then we have been fighting the Saudi bureaucracy trying to get temp plates and actual plates for it so not a ton of real driving been done so far.
Immediate impressions and things to comment on:
Side stand issue that someone mentioned. On flat parking lot feels like it will fall over
Loud as heck. First thumper but my goodness its a loud bike
Neutral issue... (it has a neutral? You could have fooled me)
Really it is there but man you have to catch it just right
Cool looking bike
Either setup from the factory or the lousy dealership it wont stay idled at a stop without some gas. That will be my project tonight or this weekend is messing with the carb so it has enough gas at startup and early warm up to not die every time at a stop light. As loud as it is people WILL KNOW when you kill your bike and sound like a chump...
Compounded walled city here that we are getting our feet wet on the bike and then the plan is to do some serious exploring all around the Western half of Saudi Arabia. Hopefully we can get some good ride reports out there and let everyone know how it holds up as a desert bike. Thankful to all of you who have posted. Been taking screen snips of everything and making an excel book for known problems and updates such as the recommended chain issue.
Looking forward to some more here on the forum...
Jamey
2015 X5 with the stage name of Suske United
2015 Suzuki Inazuma (Fun commuter bike)
Question for the group.
As mentioned in my previous post the setup and care from the dealer was non existent. There is no manual (maybe it comes this way).
The question is:
What all can the instrument panel do and how to operate it?
I've set the time successfully and I think I've reset the trip meter. Other than that I've got no clue and based on experimental button presses I don't think it does any more than that. Does that sound right or am I missing out on a whole array of things?
-Jamey
just time setting and trip counter.