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Well at one point i had read nearly through all 3500 posts, and i know these have been covered once or twice but the search tool isnt working well for me.
-what octane are you running?
-what's the consensus on the best oil to help find neutral?
Also, is it common to need to jack up the carb idle upon startup, only to back it down with this bike?
I really rather not need to whip out a screw driver each ride...
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oh yeah i forgot to ask, how did you ever make it thru reading all the pages and pages n pages of nightmare paperwork stories. over and over. at one point, for me, i was wondering if there could ever be a separate thread for that. hey, just sayin,
Indeed those posts were at times discouraging a bit indeed. But I know my self, my capabilities, and there was no doubt in my mine this is ride i was willing to take....Quote:
Originally Posted by chruk bashre
As i mention, i look forward to much of the work and modifications...
Im an electronics engineer by education, programmer by trade, and machinist by night... i think a bike like this is right up my ally...
Besides which having lived and worked in a few parts of Asia for several years, I think i have a different perception of what one might expect for the price they are willing to pay.
And like any other product, there are duds where you will end up losing lots of coin for nothing, there are cream puffs that are worth every penny and then some, I believe.
I did try to carefully choose my dealers before all this and do my due diligence....
So far everything is going very well...
For me, if i get a few years of riding out of the bike i will consider it worth while...
I think i said the same thing with my now 17 year old Ford (designed in japan by mazda but dont tell anyone)
So what is in my mailbox when i get home from work around 4...Quote:
Originally Posted by DanDaMan
the new MCO, apparently it was sent on the 15th.
Bike friday, papers monday, what was that you were saying about what's best?
Oddly getting insurance, Allstate for what its worth, gave him the model on the first MCO in the box "DF250RTB", he stated what he found was it was listed as an engine rather than a bike... but anyway he insured it...
Now I gave him the new MCO's model and we will see what that comes back with...
It also revised the shipping weight down from 363 to to 304 lbs... and Gross from 460 to 350
I do wonder exactly this bike weights, anyone??
I wonder if the Dong Fang engine is made by Zongshen?! I know the CCW is a Lifan. My TMEC 200 enduro single (Zongshen engine) is very tempermental in the morning at startup. My adjustment screw is loose enough to turn by hand, so I have to turn it forward a few times in the morning to keep it from dying at stop signs or red lights. This is after the choke is moved all the way down after a couple miles of riding and the bike starts to sputter. I did think the Dong Fang's engines were made by Loncin due to the displacement, or this is a result of the Sheng Way carb?!
my MCO wasnt even used when titleing registering and tagging my bike
bought my bike from killer motorsports (AKA scooter depot , its just a physical address in the state so scooter depot can do the title and registrations) look it up its a lone single bay car garage in the warehouse district :p )
bike came drop shipped from ... scooter depot
, I called killer motorsports (aka scooter depot) told em what state I was in , they asked for VIN off the frame stamp , got it Titled , plated and registered and those sent to my house within 2 weeks of getting the bike
all for the same cost u guys paid , without having to do the paperwork the running around for the paperwork and without needing to pay for the paperwork
I bet u could go c killer motorsports inventory and bet its little more than a few diff model bikes sitting in that 1 bay garage (if there be ANY inventory at all) , and if u want 1 itll be dropshipped to you via scooter depot
thats why u get so little support from these "satallite" companies , there just physical address's in state to allow the parent company to more easily sell /title/plate there bikes
but that why i said you made a very arbitrary statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanDaMan
if i could get some dealer to run out to the DMV for me without even paying for it, we wouldn't even be having this conversation...
You seem to be lucky enough to have a dealer where u live that was willing to drop ship this bike.
The rest of us needed to do the same thing with not a local but distant dealer...
No doubt the location of you dealer is fortunate for you, but still I have no idea why you would give the advise that everone find a local dealer to do this.
Seems to me you 2 weeks for your processing, i waited 1 business day from receiving my bike, and 10 from the initial order. And if i didnt over sleep this morning I would have been riding today.
Still dont get it.
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So no preferences on motor oil eh...?
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Originally Posted by axa
I use Lucas semi synthetic high performance oil in mine and have no issues shifting. I am due to change it now but have been too busy with other things. It works well so Im sticking with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by axa
maxima premium 4 motorcycle specific 10w40
cheapest unleaded , 10/40 w car oil , loosen the clutch up a bit helps with nuetral it comes a bit tight , but nuet still finicky
Rotella T 15w40 heavy duty diesel oil in my bikes that don't require synthetic.It has zinc add to help with the clutch.Car oils have friction modifiers that will cause clutch slippage.Ask me how I know.:rolleyes1: In my bikes that require synthetic,I run 20w50 Valvoline 4T.This stuff makes transmission silky smooth,but at 11.99 it's pricey.It does help with fuel mileage on my bigger bikes.
Wish i new this this 2 hours ago, for I looked high and low for the 15-40 SE the manual called for. Went with Castrol 10W-40 4T for motorcycles, being Castrol treated my real car nice for the last 17 years. Also it was the only SG, rather than SJ/SK/SL that everything else was; but this leaves me really concerned.Quote:
Originally Posted by ben2go
First ride, twice I couldn't even find gears on the way up. Top that with the stock sprocket and the cars behind me were pissed.
To make it worse, I believe the manual asks for no more than 25% throttle for the first 150k.
Well all this is fine with me as i get used to the bike. Now I dont have any experiance here, but I think these springers are very tricky. I only have my NSR to compare with but with the lack of damping I really have to be on the look out. I can imagine going for the brake and/or clutch, hitting a bump, and the bike jumps out of my hands...
Anyway, ask me again in 500 miles when this is old news...
It sure looks cool though...
:popcorn:
Hey, is this the stuff??Quote:
Originally Posted by ben2go
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...1&s=automotive
thats not diesel but rather "Engine Oil"
< $42 for 3 gallons if you subscribe, (you can cancle the subscription anytime)
Under 4$ an oil change seems a pretty darn good deal
38t eh? how much do you weight?Quote:
Originally Posted by chruk bashre
Im almost 160lb, and I almost feel like i could just throw out 1st gear, if not 2nd also...
I also find myself constantly find myself looking for 6th and cant believe its not there...
a sprocket change is all but necessary, after i get comfortable on this thing.
Speaking of which, I find myself clenching the grips way hard subconsciously fearing the front end to buck. You really feel everything with these springers.
Honestly I don't think i like it so far...
I dont recall feeling on edge when riding my NSR it was always a pleasure.
But i dont know if it is maturity or great wisdom but i cant let myself feel quite that relaxed anymore, and I believe its the springers are a major reason for this....
Im a noob biker so I used to do the deathgrip thing on my DF as well. Messed with my hand as I lost feeling and my hands would fall asleep. I loosened up a bit and problem solved.Quote:
Originally Posted by axa
Your not new to bikes so I feel better about my own mistake. But just FYI, foam grip covers are almost a must on this bike. Best upgrade so far and I wish I had them a year ago.
axa only said search for a dealer , if there isnt 1 there isnt 1 , but dong has quite a few " physical address's" around the US (all scooter depot) and a 1/2 dozen websearches willl tell u if 1 is "local"(in state) able to do all the paperwork for ya
I dont know where lower hudson valley is , or id search u state n post the drop shippers I find , matter oh fact that be nice if all would tell wer they got there bike n how hard it was to make highway legal
Im going to hold off on giving you advice on doing the springers or not...Quote:
Originally Posted by chruk bashre
After my first day riding truth is im kind of disappointed in the feel if not handling. While the hardtail is nothing, these front springers, at least the chinamoto version, are really rough. You can really feel all but the most subtle bumps. And bonafide bumps feel more like craters, and i dont even want to find out what a bonafide pothole feels like.
So Im still worried when opening up to grab clutch and brake, ill hit one and the bike will jump right out of my hands.
Im going to first do what is being advised and get some foam grips.
Then going to ride a while and see if as suggested I'm not just hanging on too hard.
But in the mean time, Im going to look and see if these things are adjustable or there are different set of springs that can be had... Then ill pass judgment.
Or perhaps if your a true bad ass biker, u dont worry about these things.
Glad to hear it. I was hoping someone would say something to calm me down. Right now its a rougher ride than id want to put up with.Quote:
Originally Posted by GonzoX
And while im not entirely new to bikes, im new enough really, and new to non sport bikes.
Im going to look for foam grips today thanks.
:deal:
J&Pcycles, -replacement foam covers pair-part #5000115
I do know that the springers on the Harley Davidson motorcycles (Softail Springer models) required more maintenance and had more problems the the bikes with standard front forks. As I recall there were grease fittings to grease and they had some bearing/spacer problems with some.
Yes,that is the exact same stuff I use.Quote:
Originally Posted by axa
where did you buy them. 14$ from j&p...Quote:
Originally Posted by chruk bashre
these spec are for 1" bars
so im thinking about trying these at half the price:
http://www.amazon.com/Sunlite-Road-B...les+foam+grips
there will be enough for 4 replacements when they wear out...
anyone also with the 2012 model know for sure the oil drain plug size?
apparently its m12x1.5 on the 2010, id like to order a magnetic one.
the inside of the grip cover is 1 1/4"+/-. same as the outside of the grips. :deal:
Grip Puppies are the greatest.Around $10 for a pair and they last a long time.Quote:
Originally Posted by axa
What about pulling of the stock grip cover all together, and using the foam grips alone?
Then I suppose all those bycycle grips come into play when you are slipping on to 1" rather than 1.25"
Reckon they would slip?