Dong Fang DF 250 RTB Bobber Information

I had a 250 Nighthawk and it didn't seem to have near 25 HP. If I remember right it's a 230CC twin. Just got back from some shopping at Harbor Freight and picked up some 10" o-ring pliers for the next time I change the sprocket ($11. with 20% off coupon that I carry in my wallet) and I think the 13/33 ratio is going to be fine. It pulls fine for my 210 lbs. Maybe you should try 13/35?
Gathered a small crowd in the parking lot as usual. People like the bike.
Gotta do something about some luggage/saddle bags,rack or whatever.

Yeah I figured the nighthawk was more around the 18hp range =)
I'll order a 35T today so hopefully I will have it by the time the bike arrives =)

Ok I just go the call, I will have the create on monday between 12-4PM

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Originally Posted by Aboshi

Ok I just go the call, I will have the create on monday between 12-4PM

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Dont forget Pics Pics Pics, I'm interested to see if its packaged the way they say they package and ship their stuff out.

at 0:38 they start to talk about how they ship
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkIW5M06XIs

oh I plan on going out there with my gopro on 1080p to show everything =)

I am new to this site. First post... I am in the market for a 250cc bobber to complete the 20mile RT coimmute to work. I am tossed between the CCW bobber and the DF bobber. How many miles do you have on your bike now? Still like it? If you were to purchase another DF250 again today, where would you buy? Did you ever get it licensed? How much is your insurance? Have you researched Cleveland CW? I like that bike alot and wonder if it's worth the extra grand? Your thoughts are appreciated...

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Originally Posted by ktmracer

I am new to this site. First post... I am in the market for a 250cc bobber to complete the 20mile RT coimmute to work. I am tossed between the CCW bobber and the DF bobber. How many miles do you have on your bike now? Still like it? If you were to purchase another DF250 again today, where would you buy? Did you ever get it licensed? How much is your insurance? Have you researched Cleveland CW? I like that bike alot and wonder if it's worth the extra grand? Your thoughts are appreciated...

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KTM welcome to the site. there is a lot of great knowledge on this board.

i have ridden both the DF250RTB and the CCW Heist they both have a 229cc motor. I liked them both but the DF250RTB needs some tweeks as mentioned to get it to pull better. the Heist is strong stock.
Though both are manufactured in China the CCW is an American based company. The CCW Heist is also almost 1K more expensive but they have a dealer network backing up the Bike with distributers in the East and West Coast PIT MOTORS being the main distributer in the US.
The DF250RTB is a China production and looks like good stock and ran fine, Barnone has over 500 miles on his bike and he is still enjoying it. i had mine for 20 miles and had to send it back because the bike is not titlable in NJ and not CARB approved in CA. The DF250RTB is a drop shipped bike that looks like Sunny Sports Inc. imports in. The WMI LXD is no longer valid in the states under the NHTSA listing. I had bought mine from ScooterDepot in CA but they are horrible and still havent creditted my account for the bikes return over a week ago. I do not recommended them. I'll let the other guys tell you their experiences with the companies they ordered from.

Look at the thread My-day-at-PIT-Motors-LTD-and-the-CCW-Tha-Heist it talks about the heist.

I liked the tank design on the DF250RTB it was very sexy, and the drag pipe was nice. Over all i like the CCW Heist better. The look and feel it feels better put together and nicer seat. the power IMHO the heist had a better ride and gearing, stock.

They are both new vehicles so no real way to tell how they will hold up in the long run

I have researched CCW to the point of almost stocking them LoL real good guys in NJ and OH. Lots of dealers popping up every day. I cant tell you which one to get because I'm jaded and have had a bad experience with the DF250RTB. So all I'd do is preach the gospel of CCW :riding: i honestly believe that the heist is a better buy

Insurance is a regional thing but i paid 100 bucks for the year

ktmracer.
I have the Dong Fang bobber and am very happy with it but it is not a high speed bike. Remember we are talking about a push rod 229cc engine (not 250cc) on both these bikes. If your commute is on an interstate with 70 to 80 mph traffic then you are looking at the wrong bike.

The tweaks that Gardo are talking about on the DF are decreasing the size of the rear sprocket and changing the main jet to a 100 both to improve the speed of the bike. No big deal. I've done both the changes on my other three Chinese bike and also on my Japanese bike. Pretty common changes.

I bought mine from Chad at http://www.extremescooters.biz/250cc...r-chopper.aspx
He seems to have the best price. He screwed around getting the MSO and bill of sale to me but should be set up now to properly sell the DF. He gave me two helmets and a tool kit for my trouble with him. I've gotten him to straighten out his listing for the DF by correcting some errors.

Gordo had trouble registering his DF in NJ for some reason but I did not have a problem in Florida.

I have never seen the Heist so can't speak about it but the Dong Fang is a well built bike that is easy to work on. Looking at the two and comparing them leads me to believe that the DF is a much better buy at a thousand dollars less assuming that you don't need a dealer holding your hand.

hi my name is russell i am in jacksonville fl and i am glad to hear that the df250rtb can be registered in florida i have been wanting to buy one but that was a concern, also i have read that you are recommending modifications for more speed but this is not an issue for me i am happy with being able to do 55 my next concern was about the size of the bike i am a big guy about 280 lb and by the specs this should not be a problem any feed back would be greatly appreciated. i am looking for a cool commuter bike my long riding bike days are behind me.

russellsjr,
The DF is geared way too low the way it comes from the factory. Believe me you will want to change the rear sprocket from 45 teeth to 38 or so. Even if you don't want more top speed, you will want to be able to get across the intersection before you have to shift to second. Also like most new bikes now days it is jetted too EPA lean and you will want to change the main jet to say a 100 and raise the needle one washer or so. No big deal in any case. I've had to do these mods to all my bikes.

I went to a 33 tooth rear sprocket which might be too small although it seems fine to me. Aboshi is going to a 35 so you might want to wait for his opinion on rear sprocket size. Maybe a 38 would be good for you at 280 lbs.

Size wise I think you are fine with the bobber. I am 6' and 210 lbs or so. I raised the preload on the seat to the max and changed the handle bars and added bar end mirrors but that is the way I like to ride a bike.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...ah/DFside1.jpg
Me on the bike.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...h/DFbaffle.jpg
I added a baffle to the muffler because I thought it was too loud but others think it is just fine as is.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...h/IMG_0679.jpg
Added a sheep skin to my seat. She seems to like it.

Oh and my long distance riding days are over for me too, Also my biggest bike now is the 229cc Dong Fang.:lol8:
And my favorite bike for riding in the city traffic is my SYM HD200 scooter.

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Originally Posted by barnone

ktmracer.Looking at the two and comparing them leads me to believe that the DF is a much better buy at a thousand dollars less assuming that you don't need a dealer holding your hand.

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Ouch that hurts Barnone:bowdown:

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Originally Posted by Gardo

Ouch that hurts Barnone:bowdown:

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Gardo,
Hey if you get a good dealer it is worth the extra money but most of the dealers around here don't do a very good job.

Finely got my bike today!
Nearly 30 days later... Now to see how slow countyimports will take to get me the MSO :deal:

I took some pics after I ripped the cardboard off, and no it wasn't wrapped up like countyimports claims it will come...
Everything is in tact except the front fender looks to be crooked and the rear disc for the bake looks to be warped but I wont really know until I put the bike on a crate and spin the rear tire a bit. All in all the bike looks very solid and the frame is thicker then I thought it would be. I'm not a fan of how stretched out I am but I guess I can get used to it, also I will need to adjust the rearsets because it feels like I have to take my foot off the pegs to change a gear or press on the rear brake.
As you can see I have put on some drag bars but there is an issue with this. On the original bars they have holes drilled out on each side for the electrical controls to lock into to prevent moving, this leaves a nub on the controls so I either have to shave off the nub or drill holes in the new handlebars.

barnone:
Did you run into this issue also when changing out your handlebars?
Did you just remove the nubs from the inside of the controls?
Or did you drill holes for them?

I really do not want to drill holes because then I am stuck with that position forever, and If I wind up wanting to move the handlebars lower or whatever I would be shit out of luck, less buying new bars. Also it feels like the seat should be a bit lower and maybe a bit closer, I'll give it some time before I chop off the bracket and relocate the seat though. Maybe with adjusting the rearsets I'll think otherwise.

Tomorrow I will drain the oil and put the 10/40 in and a nice shinny NGK plug, and I still need to put the charger on the battery. I ordered a #100 main jet and a 35 tooth sprocket so they should be here by Wednesday. I still need to order the #50 slow jet but I will need to match it up first.

Time for some pics =)
I will take some hi def video tomorrow for all of you =)
These were taken with my cell phone for the time being.

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looks like you already changed the marker lights as well, man I do miss the bike fir nothing else that today I was home and wanted to go riding LoL

Aboshi, you should be able to adjust the shift and rear brake on them. one of the things I loved was stretch on the bike

Good luck with it

Aboshi,
Looking good in the neighborhood there on the beach.
I drilled holes in both set of bars I tried using the stock bars to locate the holes.
I found the drag bars stretched me too far out but they might be fine for you.
Nothing like a new bike to farkle out.

Thanx Gordo, and barnone =)

Yeah its going to take some getting used to because I have rode sport bikes and MX my entire life.
I only hopped on a sportster once and it felt like I was on a couch with 2 wheels =)
I'm stretched out but thats not that bad compared to how the rearsets feel. I am going to try to push them farther forward so my toes can get to them easier.
I'm 5'10 150 lbs and I have a size 12 shoe so I should't have to work that hard for the foot controls. Other then that over 10 people looking into my parking lot already stopped just to look at the bike =) one guy goes didn't I just see that bike in cycle world last month lol. As for the electrical switches with the nubs I think I will just pull out the dremmel and shave them off. I really don't feel like finding my metal bits for the drill (if I still have any). I haven't changed out those cornstalks yet either, I figure I'll do that after I get the bike inspected.
I'll take a lot more pics and some video tomorrow.

barnone:

I'll take some shots off my balcony then you can really see what this beach looks like =)
We also have the Wold Tour (surfing) coming here in Sept. And it will be the first time the World Tour has even come to the east cost! I'm so excited hehe

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Originally Posted by Aboshi

As for the electrical switches with the nubs I think I will just pull out the dremmel and shave them off. I really don't feel like finding my metal bits for the drill (if I still have any).

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Nice bike Aboshi

I know it's a Chinese bike, but don't go Chinese and start cutting corners, the nubs are there for a reason and you should drill the holes. Yup,it's a PITA, but it's also the right thing to do.

Enjoy your ride.

Cheers!
ChinaV

Very nice bike Aboshi!

Aboshi,
The reason that Gardo thinks you changed out the turn signals is because ours were chrome and yours are black. I like the black ones better and they don't stand out as much. I want the old school look with little chrome.

I ordered some bar end turn signals to play around with. I hope I can keep the bar end mirrors also.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...5367&viewitem=

As far as being stretched out, you can put some more preload in the seat which should help but the DF is not a sport bike by any means.

So you get some good surf on your beach. We don't get any here on the Gulf unless a hurricane is coming ashore.

Are your fenders and tank flat black? If they that is going to piss me off because I ordered flat black but got glossy black.

Looks nice in flat black; it appears a lot of the chrome bits on the gloss black bike are blacked out on the flat black model, headlight, tail light, turn signals... good stuff! Aboshi, did you order flat black or was this just what they happened to ship?

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Originally Posted by redrover

Looks nice in flat black; it appears a lot of the chrome bits on the gloss black bike are blacked out on the flat black model, headlight, tail light, turn signals... good stuff! Aboshi, did you order flat black or was this just what they happened to ship?

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Good eye there Redrover.

Now I am really getting pissed because you did get a flat black model with a lot of black instead of chrome like Red said.
I'm calling up that Chad that I ordered my bike from and raise hell with him.

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Good eye there Redrover.

Now I am really getting pissed because you did get a flat black model with a lot of black instead of chrome like Red said.
I'm calling up that Chad that I ordered my bike from and raise hell with him.

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Give em hell Vince!!!

Redrover:
Good eye indeed lol I noticed that right away when I opened the create. the speedo/signals/head light/tail light are all murdered out, and yes I ordered it in flat black.
I had called up countyimports and made sure they had it in flat black, I must have asked the guy 10 times at least just to see if he was bullshitting me.
I'm not a fan of chrome at all and one of the things I was going to do if those parts came in chrome was send it in to be powder coated black, so I'm very happy it came all blacked out.

barnone:
I would defiantly raise hell because I have the flat black model and if thats what you ordered they should have waited till they could send that one out or they just fuct up on their end.
If you want a awesome looking rear view and still be able to use bar end signals check this out:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ht_2722wt_1161

Off topic for a sec:
Yeah our waves get very big up here 25' + some times and it gets brutal! But I love it hehe
here is what it looked like a few weeks ago: http://vimeo.com/20820322
The second guy you see flying in the air is one of my brothers =)

It's nice to know the flat black is not just a mythological creature! :thumbsup:

Aboshi. if you are were I think you are you're less than an hour from me (depending on the L.I.E) once you get the bike legit we need to hook up and go riding and show off these little beasts.

I've come to the conclusion that the guy I ordered my DF from does not know a motorcycle from a Popsicle. He is just a paper pusher and a poor one at that.

I think the DF has much more of an old school look that I want over the Heist. I think the DF has larger tubing in the frame and appears to have a more stout frame but then again I haven't seen a Heist in real life.

I'll keep the bar end mirror you suggested on my Ebay watch list if my idea does not work out.

Gordo:

Any time you want =)
I'm about 20 mins from JFK you can google maps Long Beach and see exactly where I am =)

It turns out I am going to have to drill the holes in the handlebars or at least on the right side...
The nub holds the throttle in place. I want to do it right now but I really don't feel like going outside in 34F to do it lol

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Originally Posted by barnone

I've come to the conclusion that the guy I ordered my DF from does not know a motorcycle from a Popsicle. He is just a paper pusher and a poor one at that.

I think the DF has much more of an old school look that I want over the Heist. I think the DF has larger tubing in the frame and appears to have a more stout frame but then again I haven't seen a Heist in real life.

I'll keep the bar end mirror you suggested on my Ebay watch list if my idea does not work out.

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Barnone - the DF250RTB is indeed a slightly larger bike, bigger fram but the stretch on the Heist has a longer wheelbase.
Its the Tank on the DF250RTB that sexy beautiful tank makes it look so badass. The Heist's tank is nice but thats what i miss the most from the DF250RTB that curvey heartshaped tank. It gave the bike such a different look and the race stripes made it so much more unique

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Gordo:

Any time you want =)
I'm about 20 mins from JFK you can google maps Long Beach and see exactly where I am =)

It turns out I am going to have to drill the holes in the handlebars or at least on the right side...
The nub holds the throttle in place. I want to do it right now but I really don't feel like going outside in 34F to do it lol

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bring the bars inside