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Google "parts 167FMM" or "parts CG250"
167FMM off Ebay 229 cc
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Zongshen...2c6000&vxp=mtr
Parts and 167FMM from good dealer.
http://www.hooperimports.com/product...id=250Vertical
Here is a interesting 170FMM with a six speed transmission. 250 cc $687.19USD free shipping
More power than the 167FMM.
http://www.mbe-motorsports.com/catal...roducts_id/389
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Also parts there for the 167FMM.
Another 170FMM
http://www.chinesepartswholesale.com...47f7ff80cbfeda
are these engines compatible (plug and play)?
Are there any existing BBK's for the RTB and RTC's?
[QUOTE=barnone;61987]That's the engine that should have come with these bikes!Quote:
Originally Posted by 85highwall
If not the elusive 400cc version...
Now someone please buy my engine for $350 and ill order one tomorrow...
3 months young, 450 miles, running like a dream...
Ill even throw in the installation!
Maybe they are plug and play but who knows? They are all CG Honda clones.Quote:
Originally Posted by ProDigit
I also found a 300cc version of the CG250 in China but it is not EPA approved so can't be imported into the USA.
Maybe someone in Canada can import it?
BBK for 167FMM (also called CG250)
"Change your CG250 67mm air cooled engine (167FMM)to 70mm bore,Kit include piston kit and gasket"
at http://www.chinese-parts-canada.com/...bore_kits.html
axa,Quote:
Originally Posted by axa
I was thinking the same thing.:lol8:
I sent MBE Motorsports an email asking if it is really a six speed and to verify 15 KW (20.39 horsepower).
I was all over this engine upgrade this morning, 20hp would be not only a bit surprising but well worth the time but the cost is a consideration. I'm not that far from MBN to that if its actually plausible i may take a trip to pick it up if it might save a few bucks.Quote:
Originally Posted by barnone
Else perhaps if we get enough people interested, we can have them look at importing this 300cc cylinders you talk about, and put together a kit for us.
Another option for me if all this doesn't pan out, is to take a detour to the guangzhau motorcycle market in Baiyun when i get back to Asia next season.
Perhaps a new engine will count as a carry on...
I suppose the very last option would be to get a spare cylinder and bore it out on my lathe. Of course this is not something i want to find out i screwed up on when doing 70...
Anyway, i put the jockey shift project on permanent hiatus, all i really need is more power
Given the compression ratio (11:1) and with proper timing engine & ignition and carb size, I think the 20hp is correct.
Not mind blowing,but with the right gearing, 80mph would be possible.
I speak from experience, on My Yamaha 250.
well at any measure a far better improvement then all of these other mods going on here.Quote:
Originally Posted by SR.MAILMAN
Im just not yet convinced on the cost/benefit ratio... maybe if i could actually get something for my motor...
Its official:
FOR SALE: 167FMM CG250 engine - cheap.
Hopefully google will pick up and index that...
I asked MBE
"is your 250cc vertical air cooled engine 170FMM really a six speed?"
and the answer from them is
"Well that is what the supplier tells us.
Thanks
Martin B.
info@mbe-motorsports.com
www.MBE-Motorsports.com"
Kind of funny answer.:lol8:
Maybe we can get a group buy to lower the price.
the engine still spin ?Quote:
Originally Posted by 85highwall
catastrophic physical damage.Quote:
Originally Posted by 85highwall
im going to guess you did not have too many miles on the plug, so it was something else.
Your going to have to take the cylinder off and inspect the extent of the damage,
then acquire replacement parts.
That or... just buy my engine
If that 170FMM engine is true, add me in as a buyer.....
Not a very reassuring answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by barnone
i would have thought he could have given a better one than that
anyway, the power is really the value , having the next gear without power is really only valuable going down hill...
having the power will make that next gear worth its while
kick starter enough to sell me
Yes, the engine still turns, but it feels like it stops at the top of the stroke, I'm guessing a bent valve?
could be , sadly sounds like u need pull the head , might just be the plug bits keeping it from wanting to spin fully , its easy if can find the gasket and a small torq bar
Gonna have to change the muffler to use a kick starter on the DF250RTB. The DF is easy enough to push start if needed.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanDaMan
I have kick starters on my Kawasaki W650 and Ural and have never had to use them other than playing around.
axa,Quote:
Originally Posted by axa
So you gonna go visit MBE and get some answers?
MBE
2918 Boulevard Dagenais Ouest, Laval, Quebec H7P 1T1
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Thanks
Why would it be that important? i don't often keep things long enough to tell, but my car and tractor batteries last about 7 years each.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanDaMan
Yes, thanks, though a prerequisite to knowing i wasn't that far, was in knowing where they are. That said, i said if it was "plausible" I would visit.Quote:
Originally Posted by barnone
And that said, I have decided 700$ is not a plausible upgrade for me, nor frankly do i think it will ever be.
Not yet anyway while i still have a few other options to explore.
I had a battery go bad in my gs 750 , I used kick until replaced it , in 2 years it was bad again , here 3 years later even with nearly dead battery , it kickstarts
well that seems inadequate.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanDaMan
Don't you suspect you have a parasitic drain somewhere?
na don't ride it in winter and didn't keep a charger on it , but that's a big + for kickstarters , so dead it wont turn on lights or beep horn , but itll kick and operate fine
Just saying that I can still push start my bikes but luckily I tend to keep my batteries in good shape. Also I have one of these which I have used a few times.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanDaMan
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agreed, a kick starter is a benefit. that said, it would also be a benefit to you to simply take care of the battery. which should add years to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanDaMan
How about this, get a electrical cord, cut it in half.
connect the female side of it to the battery, and let it stick out the oil can electrical box.
Then take the male side and attach 2 little clamps.
Then 6 feet or so of cord on that male end wouldn't be too much to carry around, so you can use it to jump start when you need.
(that tractor i said battery lasted 7 years, well i bought it 8 years ago, and this is what i do)
Just use a cord at least the same gauge as you see connected to the starter.
ya I have charger leads on my Dong now , but for life of me I cannot push start it and in texas , your lucky to find a hill
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New paint job, I'm not sure how I feel about it yet. (Orange in darker than it looks in the pic)
Nice looking color on your DF. You will have to get some HD stickers for the tank.:lol8:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gearhead45
Finally pulled the motor apart yesterday and this is what I found!Attachment 13333Quote:
Originally Posted by 85highwall
So what's the story on the 170fmm motor?
It seems that the valve keepers were spit out at high rpm, dropping the exhaust valve into the cylinder.That will need a new cylinder and head.Might as well check on the 170 or get the big bore kit and new head.