How would this bike (and engine) compare to the:
(Is there another one I should consider?)
Would it keep up with these? Get similar (~80MPG) mpg? Are they similar engines? Thanks.
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How would this bike (and engine) compare to the:
(Is there another one I should consider?)
Would it keep up with these? Get similar (~80MPG) mpg? Are they similar engines? Thanks.
A buddy of mine has a 250 rebel and takes it on 87 the NY Thru Way. I've ridden it and it has shocks. Nice ride and smooth. Bike felt smaller than my Heist but its also a ptwin and will give you a bit more power.
You can get a slightly used Rebel on craigs list for about $1200 - $2500
cant say much to the other bikes because i dont know anyone that has one, but Honda, Suzuki, and Yamaha make pretty damn good bikes
Other,
There are so many vehicle choices that can do a 30 mile commute. You need to decide.
I'd buy an econo box for year round use and a bobber for a toy.
Chad who I bought my Dong Fang from at
http://www.extremescooters.biz/250cc...r-chopper.aspx
sent me a new replacement tank for my bike since it had a slight leak. I repaired the leak but didn't know if the weld would hold so I asked for a tank under warranty and it arrived today.
Nice to be able to report a positive experience on an internet seller. I recommend him as a supplier of the bobber if you want one in the crate.
out of all of those go with the rebel, you can also bob it very easily.
And here's the place to do it blue Collar bobber. some of the stuff on the website will give you a good starting point other stuff you can find cheaper or open your imagination withQuote:
Originally Posted by Aboshi
Rebel bobber kits
I saw the blue collar bobber kits. They seem a little expensive. ($269 for the fender kit) But, its all bolt on and I like some of the patterns on their fenders.
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I might look into a used 450 or 600 too that I could bob. Although, the biggest selling point on these little bikes for me is the mpg.
On the other hand we are getting away from the point of this thread. We can bring it with this. All of the forums about honda rebel bobbers have advertisements for the dong fang df250rtb.
I also like that the dong fang is bigger then these other bikes.
Nice stuff at Blue Collar. If I was going that route I would start with a 600 or greater bike like Other suggested. You could dump a lot of money in a Rebel and still have a 250cc bike. The advantage of the DF or Heist is it is about done for a relative low price. My DF was $2199.99 delivered. These bikes are so simple that I don't see a lot of reliability issues assuming the owner doesn't butcher the bike.
+1 on that =)Quote:
Originally Posted by barnone
If you are going to start to sink $ into a bike you might as well get something bigger if you need the extra power, even a 1000cc bike gets 60+ MPH
If you want a killer looking bike without putting much $ into at all the DF is good choice although I would get the rims/spokes powder coated the second you receive the bike and also swap out the air filter for a foam one with no chrome on it, also paint over the VIN# as well because all of these things rust VERY fast. I will go take some pics of the DF rusting into the ground for you guys when I walk the dog in a bit.
Did you mean 60+ MPG? If so which bikes do? The Harley 883 list 60 MPG, but others I looked into didn't list MPG that high.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aboshi
I want to see the rust. My area is pretty wet.
By the way Aboshi,I used to live near you before I bought 6 acres out in the country near Buffalo. Everything rusts there. I was right on the water too.
No rust on my DF but I don't live on salt water or salted roads.
I sure am happy with my DF. no rust issues. I do love to tinker with it. only have 100 miles on it.
reporon,
Welcome but the rule here according to the moderators is that your bike doesn't exist without photos.:icon10:
The DF and the Heist is fun and easy to tinker with since it doesn't have all that plastic in the way.
What modifications have you done to your DF? I'm always looking for ideas to steal.
good morning barnone, went with a smaller rear sprocket and drag bars. tried to go with new grips but i crushed the throttle tube, so Im waiting for a replacement. sorry no pics yet. I have the flat black one. I do need to get some saddelbags. at first it was hard getting used to a 250 compared to the 1520 valkyrie interstate. the more I play with it the better I like it! I do need to get more miles on her. Thank you guys for all the helpful info from this site. RW
Out to the ranch to say goodbye to the beefs before heading to NC for the summer.
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...h/IMG_0781.jpg
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...h/IMG_0782.jpg
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...h/IMG_0783.jpg
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...h/IMG_0784.jpg
They don't seem too sad to see me go.:lol8:
reporon,Quote:
Originally Posted by reporon
Quite a change from the Valk I would imagine. Were are you located?
Barnone,
Is there a reason that you are riding with only one saddle bag now? Was the exhaust pipe too close?
Aboshi,
I would like to see how bad the rust is. (I take back my comment about everything rusting there. It does, but this would be from only being there for a month).
The bike was rusted within 48 hours when it was raining, and it has a waterproof cover on it.
This is now 1 month in and I had even polished the spokes with the turtle-wax metal polish that is supposed to protect against this and it didn't help one bit.
I want to add I have lived in this spot my entire life and have never see something rust out this fast, not even bicycles :P
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DAYUM son thats bad, whats going on with sending the bike back and your cashQuote:
Originally Posted by Aboshi
I ordered two different bags and the left one was better quality than the right on so I sent the right one back and ordered another right one. Hopefully it will be in before I head to NC.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Other One
vince, I really do dig your shag seat
Aboshi,
That does look bad.
Is that white stuff in this photo salt?
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...attachment.jpg
I don't know why it would rust that fast from just water. My DF has gotten wet from rain and washing and I don't have any rust on the bike.
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...h/IMG_0776.jpg
I am thinking that Aboshi has the newer model as compared to barnone's due to the different chrome v. blacked out hardware. I wonder if the newer ones have a poorer quality chrome?
I know you are returning yours, but I wonder if they would cover that under the warranty. It would pay to get the longer parts warranty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aboshi
Other no such thing on these bikes. From I what I have heard from a number of people is that some of these companies show up and then disapear. Not sure if this will be the case since there is no real information on the company that makes the bike. they have a couple models all based on the same frame. Right now they are available and the engine is either a Zongshen as per the video or a lifan. You would possibly be able to find parts shopping around but there is no real support for the bike if you have any issues.
When I had the bike, before it was sent it back, the mock oil tank was broken when it was delivered. I called them right away but the part never showed up after 6 weeks. then it was a mute point because i had to send the bike back.
Thats when I bought a CCW tha Heist. There is a growing amount of dealer support and parts are readily available. yes the bikes are assembled in China but they go through such massive quality checks before even going to a dealer and a pre PDI check. Then the dealer does the PDI.
There still a question as to if this bike is legal in NY, and PA. We know that it is not in NJ. Rzight now we know of 2 bikes that are regged one is Barnones in FL and the other we dont know yet.
They are both 2010 modes.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Other One
I got my $ back the day I did the charge-back, and they wont respond to AMEX or the BBB so after 60 days from the day I did the charge-back it becomes abandon property =)Quote:
Originally Posted by Gardo
Thats NY state law, but the charge-back investigation can last up to 90 days... So its a catch 22 and I wont be doing anything with this thing till the 90 days are up + I have been charging them $20 a day for storage so at this point it really isn't worth it for them to pick it up... They had also claimed a few weeks back that they would send a truck to pick it up and I never heard back from them... So for now this thing will just continue to turn into a pile of rust :P
Gardo,
How many times do we have to go over this?
The DF is manufactured by Ningbo Dongfang Lingyun Co according to the plate on the frame. http://dfly.en.alibaba.com/aboutus.html
The Heist is manufactured by Qingqi Rhon http://www.motor-rhon.com/
Both are large Chinese companies and these bikes are completely sourced in China.
As far as DF or Heist staying in business, that is a unanswered question. A person probably shouldn't buy either bike if they are depending on the company staying in business. They should buy a Honda, Yamaha, Harley, etc.
You have a valid point Vince and I agree. One thing is for sure both bikes are good looking machines, and for anyone thats gets one I wish them the best of luck on both.
I also have info from a friend in HK, he looked into the 400cc engine and said it doesn't exist that a lot of stuff on Alibaba are old posts that they just dont take them down.
Just passed 900 miles today on my DF and she is running just fine. Got 71 MPG city and highway mix today.