Dong Fang DF 250 RTB Bobber Information

Barnone, The bike still looking good and I assume running well too.

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Originally Posted by SR.MAILMAN

Back in the day of the vibrator bikes... Using a piece of rubber under ( from large truck mud flap. 1/4"thick) would some times be enough to stop the destruction,at the rear fender.(licence plate,etc.)
Another trick is the orientation of the bulb filament from horizontal to vertical. A hot horizontal filament is more prone to stretching and breaking over bumps. How you are able to rotate the socket, will be the challenge.
Maybe attaching to the seat,could be another option?

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I rotated mine and put an LED in it and have never looked back. But I have a sneaky suspicion you guys ride yours more than I do.

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Originally Posted by bowtiewagon

Wow the Dragon. Always wanted to cruise that. But I live way to far to hit it. Maybe one day.

Just noticed up to 20,285 on the miles thus far. had a small issue friday.Carb jets clogged.She would just idle, could not throttle up at all.Took it apart and cleaned it, back to normal now. Have not put the new tail light assembly on yet. been real busy, plus we had rain all last week. Gonna try to put it on this week sometime. Those LED bulbs work pretty good.But the solder joints fail pretty quick on some of them. Hope that changes once I mount the new tail light with some cushion under it. I plan on cutting up a flip flop ,seem spongy enough.

I also bought a couple small LED strips to add light to the bike at night. But have yet to find the correct toggle switch I need for them.I am after something waterproof of course, but local stores( auto parts) do not carry much in the way of that. Hope to sort that out this week as well. 20,000 + miles, Wow,What I your oil change schedule an what do you usually use ?

Am also going to add a couple small fog lights to the front. found some decent ones on ebay..
http://www.ebay.com/itm/271868171838...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

should give me better view of the road at night as well. I do not ride much at night, the wife hates it when I do ..worries alot. Hope these will settle her down a little. I like night riding.

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Wow, 20,000 + miles ! Whats your oil change schedule and what do you usually use ?

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Originally Posted by Crelow

Barnone, The bike still looking good and I assume running well too.

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Running just fine but I only have 4,000 miles on my 2012. Mine is pretty much stock except for the 35 tooth on the rear.
It does seem to run stronger with the miles on her.

I run Rotella synthetic 10W40 in mine.

honestly, I check the oil, and when it looks like it needs to be changed, I change it. I use normal off the shelf stuff from auto zone or o'reiley for motorcycles. Nothing special.

Does anyone on here know where I can find a new rear wheel for my RTC? Are the rear wheels the same for all models. (Rta, Rtb, and RTC)

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Originally Posted by DFrta250

Does anyone on here know where I can find a new rear wheel for my RTC? Are the rear wheels the same for all models. (Rta, Rtb, and RTC)

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What's wrong with your wheel?Some damages can be repaired.Yes,they are all the same from what I have seen.

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Originally Posted by ben2go

What's wrong with your wheel?Some damages can be repaired.Yes,they are all the same from what I have seen.

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Broke sprocket bolts, have new bushings and sprocket bolts on the way. But the hub has some decent damage from the ring set being loose. Hub is somewhat deformed and worn away not sure if the snap ring will compress correctly can post up some pictures. Would just be really helpful to get a new wheel but seems next to impossible with these china bikes

Honestly, I cannot answer your question for a new wheel, but I would like to see pictures of what you are describing. For a record. I hope it works out for you.

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Originally Posted by bowtiewagon

Honestly, I cannot answer your question for a new wheel, but I would like to see pictures of what you are describing. For a record. I hope it works out for you.

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I will post pictures after work, do you know if there is a similiar rear wheel that will work? Any bike made in America is pretty easy to find a wheel for.

https://youtu.be/pWIdxRNB62g



I found this on you tube.

very cool I posted to it about how great my bike has been for me. Thanks for the link.

Well i had changed out the head gasket, and she has been doing well since.But I feel i am having issues with it again.I have had a couple hard starts the last week. It would turn over but just not actually start,then all of a sudden catch. and I noticed a bit of black smoke exiting aound the front of the motor.At first it appears to be the exhaust pipe, but it is tight and has a gasket on it. I will check it again after work,but I feel I may be leading to a head gasket issue again.
So My question, I torque the bolts to 21 lbs as suggested. Can the gasket go bad this fast?I did the work on it 3 month ago? ( check this post for 5-5-16)
Just looking for a quick what if from anyone? Thanks.

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Originally Posted by ben2go

Are you sure yours is bad,and it's not just air trapped in it?i have seen many good brake parts replaced due to trapped air.If you bleed the brakes the traditional way,by pumping the pedal and opening the bleed screw,try raising the rear so the air can travel up to the highest point easier.

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Had been real busy with work and hadn't had a chance to ride in 3 months or so. Hopped on yesterday and went to stop at a stop sign and no rear brake!! Pedal goes straight to the stop. First thing I did was check the fluid, which was full. Second thing I did was search this forum. Hopefully I just have air in the line. Questions about ben2go's post above: How high do I need to lift the rear? Best way to lift the rear? Thanks in advance!

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Originally Posted by Nick Papageorgio

Had been real busy with work and hadn't had a chance to ride in 3 months or so. Hopped on yesterday and went to stop at a stop sign and no rear brake!! Pedal goes straight to the stop. First thing I did was check the fluid, which was full. Second thing I did was search this forum. Hopefully I just have air in the line. Questions about ben2go's post above: How high do I need to lift the rear? Best way to lift the rear? Thanks in advance!

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Not very high.An old milk crate,or something similar, under the frame would work.I have a cheap $70 Harbor Freight moto lift jack.An invaluable tool,but I work on all kinds of motos pretty often.

Looks like http://www.saferwholesale.com/250cc-...43JRoCFBnw_wcB
Has the DF250RTB-A in stock for AUG. 19th 8 HR. SALE: $2,099.95
plus

Might want to contact them to see if they have a rear wheel.

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Originally Posted by bowtiewagon

Well i had changed out the head gasket, and she has been doing well since.But I feel i am having issues with it again.I have had a couple hard starts the last week. It would turn over but just not actually start,then all of a sudden catch. and I noticed a bit of black smoke exiting aound the front of the motor.At first it appears to be the exhaust pipe, but it is tight and has a gasket on it. I will check it again after work,but I feel I may be leading to a head gasket issue again.
So My question, I torque the bolts to 21 lbs as suggested. Can the gasket go bad this fast?I did the work on it 3 month ago? ( check this post for 5-5-16)
Just looking for a quick what if from anyone? Thanks.

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If it is blowing out head gaskets you need to check the head for flatness.
Watch this video.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyKN52HD6RU

FYI--Superior is showing they have the new 2016 models. Good to see the 2016 models listed on the EPA certification list so you guys with a few year old Dongfang bobbers and dirtbikes aren't stuck with 'orphan' bikes.

http://www.superiorpowersports.com/2...f250mc-rtb.htm

NO CARB (This unit is not for sale in the state of CA or PA)
For California customer please check our California Legal Section for CA DMV registerable bikes

Or Connecticut and any other state that requires C.A.R.B. certification.

So NOTHING has changed since the first 2010 models.

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Originally Posted by culcune

FYI--Superior is showing they have the new 2016 models. Good to see the 2016 models listed on the EPA certification list so you guys with a few year old Dongfang bobbers and dirtbikes aren't stuck with 'orphan' bikes.

http://www.superiorpowersports.com/2...f250mc-rtb.htm

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Thanks. Like the green color.
http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/at...id=18677&stc=1

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Originally Posted by SR.MAILMAN

NO CARB (This unit is not for sale in the state of CA or PA)
For California customer please check our California Legal Section for CA DMV registerable bikes

Or Connecticut and any other state that requires C.A.R.B. certification.

So NOTHING has changed since the first 2010 models.

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You can do the Vermont registration thang!:lol8:
http://www.motorecyclenow.com/title-service.html

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Originally Posted by SR.MAILMAN

NO CARB (This unit is not for sale in the state of CA or PA)
For California customer please check our California Legal Section for CA DMV registerable bikes

Or Connecticut and any other state that requires C.A.R.B. certification.

So NOTHING has changed since the first 2010 models.

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There is a possible silver lining to all of this, thanks to Vermont registration. Member 'Motocheez' who has been posting numerous videos of himself riding around on a Hawk enduro, lives in CT and did go the Vermont route. He is very quick to answer people under his youtube videos or on Chinariders.net if you want to ask him specifics about registration.

The annoying thing about this is that the EPA/DOT certification list is supposed to show bikes certified as either 50 states or 49 states legal; if I remember correctly, when California Scooter Company got 50 states approval for the Zongshen RX3, people in CT (NOT California!) were having difficulty registering there. Not due to emissions, but rather, like Tesla cars, a company is supposed to have registered dealers there.

Simple economics come into play, overall...I can only imagine the price per bike it would cost to get CARB certification. These companies love their 'bargain-basement' pricing schemes, and, my guess, is that if they had to add several hundred dollars, and several months time, to releasing bikes, they would sell less, not more.

Two more from Dongfang that I missed in the ad:

The 'B' type

http://www.superiorpowersports.com/2...f250mc-rta.htm

and the 'F' type extreme (to say the least :eekers:) chopper:

http://www.superiorpowersports.com/2...f250mc-rtf.htm

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Originally Posted by culcune

Two more from Dongfang that I missed in the ad:

The 'B' type

http://www.superiorpowersports.com/2...f250mc-rta.htm

and the 'F' type extreme (to say the least :eekers:) chopper:

http://www.superiorpowersports.com/2...f250mc-rtf.htm

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That type F reminds me of those mini choppers that used to be sold around town with 2 stroke 50cc engine or the 3.5hp engine.The tires on those things are scooter sized.

I had to go the Vermont registration on one my Chinese bikes because the seller said he sent the MSO but I never got it. They would not supply another one.

http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/at...id=18681&stc=1

Vermont does NOT title bikes under 300 CCs. If you are in Connecticut(with VT. plates) over 60 days... you must register or remove Vermont registered vehicle (and pay a fine). CT. will NOT register a VT. non-titled vehicle.
Manufacturers must pay an annual fee of $2500 to sell/register,in CT. and get on this list:man_list.xls - man_list.pdf
I went through this b*** s**t ,unsuccessfully in 2010.

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Originally Posted by SR.MAILMAN

Vermont does NOT title bikes under 300 CCs. If you are in Connecticut(with VT. plates) over 60 days... you must register or remove Vermont registered vehicle (and pay a fine). CT. will NOT register a VT. non-titled vehicle.
Manufacturers must pay an annual fee of $2500 to sell/register,in CT. and get on this list:man_list.xls - man_list.pdf
I went through this b*** s**t ,unsuccessfully in 2010.

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Thanks for explaining the reason why Connecticut will not register a DF. Sounds like a lot of government BS.

I wonder if 'Motocheez' knows the 60 day rule? He seems to be having a lot of fun making Hawk enduro videos with a VT plate, but this could reign in his fun!

http://www.ct.gov/dmv/cwp/view.asp?a=799&q=260368
That is the cost of being able to legally distribute vehicles in the state, that is not allot of money for a manufacturer.
Each of their network of dealers would have to be licensed too and meet requirements.
http://www.ct.gov/dmv/cwp/view.asp?a=799&q=482230
dealers have a list of fees too.

All any manufacturer would need to do is solicit existing dealers, I see value group enterprises on that list. I believe that is SSR and in that they likely have at least one licensed dealers in the state. However, if you consider that you can purchase an SSR from any other state then the system gets defeated. Makes me wonder if Connecticut only allows a licensed dealer to title a new vehicle.
So then any sale and new titling in Connecticut would have to go through a licensed dealer.
That is actually the smartest system, it’s a legitimate system.
http://hamptonmotorsports.net/Showro...rModuleId=7777

Also that same dealer is selling Benelli also.
http://hamptonmotorsports.net/Showro...rModuleId=7777

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Originally Posted by MJH

http://www.ct.gov/dmv/cwp/view.asp?a=799&q=260368
That is the cost of being able to legally distribute vehicles in the state, that is not allot of money for a manufacturer.
Each of their network of dealers would have to be licensed too and meet requirements.
http://www.ct.gov/dmv/cwp/view.asp?a=799&q=482230
dealers have a list of fees too.

All any manufacturer would need to do is solicit existing dealers, I see value group enterprises on that list. I believe that is SSR and in that they likely have at least one licensed dealers in the state. However, if you consider that you can purchase an SSR from any other state then the system gets defeated. Makes me wonder if Connecticut only allows a licensed dealer to title a new vehicle.
So then any sale and new titling in Connecticut would have to go through a licensed dealer.
That is actually the smartest system, it’s a legitimate system.
http://hamptonmotorsports.net/Showro...rModuleId=7777

Also that same dealer is selling Benelli also.
http://hamptonmotorsports.net/Showro...rModuleId=7777

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That dealer you listed is in NY.

I call bs on the CT law and your logic justifying the law. Just unnecessary overhead cost that has to be passed on to the customer.
Same for CARB. The federal EPA certification should be good for all 50 states.