QM250!

I would not laugh…..

What is the Tricker selling for? 25,000?
http://www.fsmt168.com/products.asp?id=850

If all of china can only buy bikes that are conforming to higher emissions then what does that do to the value of those that are?

Also is it true that the Beijing region is already requiring the higher standards that the rest of china will now be required to comply with?

I would say that all bikes sold in Beijing already meet the higher standards, then after the first of the year what happens? Other areas will be seeking the same bikes? It may be harder to find them and they may go up in price?

If that Tricker was sold in the USA for around $4,000.00 I would not buy one it to much money for me I have to many other options. But what is it selling for in china? Then the Qingqi is what $2,300.00 thats cheap for a 250 and they are asking $2,600 for the 200 here, but people are getting them for $1,400.00 I paid $1,699.00 for mine last year.

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he's so sexy.

Seems that Cleveland Cycle Werks will be importing those into the USA in 2011?
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...tard_web_2.jpg

Ekkicore that may be a person you might contact ?

Here is another prototype…in your favorite color?
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...Pioneer250.jpg

Here is a 125cc version, which by the way would likely be fine for you as a beginner and cost way less. Even a 200cc would likely satisfy you and for less money. They all basically would perform the same up to a certain top speed obviously the bigger engine would have a higher top speed. The concept of always wanting more and more is all relative, could be called a state of mind? Bigger better faster? But getting there is a curve and if you never road before then it actually a matter of not missing that which you never had. The 125cc will climb a hill and with you being small and light its all relative, could out climb the 250 with a 200lb man on it.

Basically the difference is something you would have to search for when ridding, seriously to some with less experience it would be relatively indistinguishable. With no ridding experience and the related wearing in period you have a season before you will even be ridding much over 50mph.

Basically you created a quandary for your self… over shooting and also seeking something hard to find and with a price premium.

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...oligun_web.jpg

That 125 would be perfect for my Step Son. - Just turned 16.......Hmmmmm. Wonder what the price range will be for this????????????

I do not think CCW intends to sell the 125cc in the USA, I am not even sure if Qingqi offers them in China? They do offer a 125cc in other markets like Europe. CCW just used the image of a bike with a 125cc in advertising the 250cc probably thought nobody would notice the difference.

The only reason I posted this is because Ekkicore is looking for a Qingqi and those people are insiders. They have contact with the factory, they have a working relation with them. If they intend to sell 250cc bikes they may be able to also offer information related to getting access to one.

This year, three models rolled off the assembly line: Heist, a bobber-style bike with a nostalgic look, Misfit, a café-style racer, and Hooligan, a modern street bike. All are priced south of $3,000. Cleveland CycleWerks expects to sell about 800 bikes by year's end, most of them in Europe, South Africa and New Zealand. Projections for next year are in the 2,000 to 3,000 range for each model.

You know what is mixed up is that the bikes are made in china and not sold in china, china which is the largest market. I understand that they are sold in other version or under other names or in similar forms…but why not have distribution and sales in china? Seems like that is the largest market why are they restricted to only exporting and not able to build new brand names in china?

Its interesting since the best at doing it would theoretically command the most production? They may fear western business taking over production? But seems as long as it is done domestically in the country why would it matter.

I still think universal standards is best and that if CCC is that and blankets the E4 and EPA/DOT standards then theoretically everything can be made to meet all markets. It should be a ICS or International Conformity Standard and similar to ISO.

Then its all matter of full documentation and that would help with intellectual rights and licensing. It would certainly help with parts and servicing documentation.