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You are not alone my friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by bezinga1
I managed to put just 100 miles on my new 650nk before it sh!t its pants...
Props to my dealer, he sorted a replacement quickly.
Would I spend again on a CFmoto bike... NOT A CHANCE!
I've had three up to now, and two started going bad from day one...
My third one now, but haven't had a chance to even fire it up.
No way out for me, so I'm stuck...
I was suckered in by all the glowing reviews........
Peace and ride safe...
Wow, this sounds pretty bad, and reminds me to a friend who had a Chinese Regal Raptor.Quote:
Originally Posted by WirralGhostHunter
All he did was a bit of riding between repair after repair.
Leaking everything, breaking everything, a list too long to remember.
The dealer in Shanghai was always willing to fix things up in his own shabby way, but it got so annoying he sold it.
Seems Chinese manufacturers still don't have their act right, sad.
Good luck for both of you.
E.
Yeah, MCN did a review on cheapo Chinese 125's. They were like 'they're all pretty good'. Then I was hoping for a 1 year later follow up, to see the real deal: how well they bloody well hold up to abuse. But nothing....pointless review then! Which is why we need forums like this to allow for owner feedback. My opinion is that CFMOTO have designed/bought in a great bike, but with a typical Chinese near religious fundamentalist love of money are rushing to fill the orders created from good reviews and are massively dropping the ball on QC. Short term financial gain at the expense of everything else, which pretty much sums up modern day China IMHO.Quote:
Originally Posted by WirralGhostHunter
WGH, I am sorry to learn of the difficulties you have experienced now with the second bike. Not a good sign at all. I'm only guessing that perhaps in all haste CFMoto has dropped the ball seriously in terms of QA/QC perhaps in ramping up the production numbers to meet demand created by favourable reviews. At least that's all I can think of unless in that haste CFMoto might have started outsourcing some of the production to third parties, with likely even poorer QC/QA systems. This is all conjecture though on my part. If things are failing in terms of CFMoto products, then I'm sure dealers globally will by nature exert pressure on the company, hopefully leading to positive improvement. CFMoto prides itself on spending/investing 30% in R&D. But who knows about that as it is still fundamentally a Chinese company with all the inherent philosophical failures therein. You know my personal views on CFMoto products and indeed an attitude I'm not discriminatory about, as I feel all Chinese products (and even services) share the same fundamental QC/QA problems. Drop me some personal info via PM or email, as I mentioned in our last communication (along with any photos of the failures), and I will make some calls after the Chinese New Year/Spring Festival to my CFMoto contacts on your behalf. If nothing else, the message might filter up to the person that matters. I can only try, because I'd like to see at least one motorcycling company in China, get it right.Quote:
Originally Posted by WirralGhostHunter
I think you are likely pretty darn close to the route cause.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZMC888
Absolutely agree 100%Quote:
Originally Posted by ZMC888
here is a clip on a cfmoto 650 nk remember to read the notes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alasHgZBGmQ
It will be very interesting to see how CF Moto is going to resolve this towards their overseas dealers.Quote:
Originally Posted by bikerdoc
An unhappy customer is one, but if they screw up their dealers, it will be pretty bad advertising, probably travelling very fast in the motorcycle world.
cheek it out diary of my cfmotoQuote:
Originally Posted by bezinga1
Ah, so that's YOU! Your candid and honest -- pros and cons -- commentary is much appreciated.
Brilliant choice of music. Something's Wrong With the World! The Classic Imperials? Who's the singer?
cheers
Anybody know of what engine CFMoto's engine is copy of?