CC goes to Deal's Gap, BRP - Non CMoto

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Originally Posted by chinabiker

I was on a nice, scenic and very twisty mountain road between Miyun and Pinggu (Beijing) last weekend - by car :sad:. Loads of Porsches, Ferraris, ..... but no bikes. They all seemed to recognize the road as their private race track. If you want to ride there you gotta be on the spot by 6 am or on a weekday to avoid all these idiots.
I heard from a bunch of perfect motorcycle roads in Germany which are closed to bikes on weekends for obvious reasons.

So, how about discipline and civilized behavior at the dragon and in the US in general ?

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Andy,

Some of the new roads in China are gorgeous and perfect for this type of thing. I can't imagine a twisty mountain road full of exotic sports cars driven by rich local drivers? Are they good drivers or just like 500hp fools?

The folks on the Dragon are generally very polite, especially when there's police cruisers pacing people. :lol8: Naturally though there are quite a few wipe-outs but I think they've got it pretty well under control now. A few years ago they were considering banning bikes from the Dragon but the local raised a piss-storm saying that the riders supplied a MAJOR percentage of the local economy.

Apparently, motorcyclists, like other human beings need to eat, sleep and buy cheezy tee shirts so pumped a good amount of money into the sleepy Appalachian towns in the area.

Everyone seemed to just be there to have a good time and get some lean on. Good folks on great roads... just like everywhere else I guess! In the US in general, most riders are polite. Out on the highways you'll see more cruisers (Harley, VTX, Star) than anything else and then second are the tourers like Gold Wings, ST's and FJR's. One thing I missed about the US when riding in China is riders in the US tend to wave hello to each other pretty much all over the country. Maybe it sound silly but I appreciate the sentiment and it's good to know there are respectful, appreciative people around. For someone with your interests Andy, I think the Trans America Trail (TAT) would be a good time as it's an almost entirely dirt track across the US. It's actually a road I would like to take a Chinese moto on if given a good opportunity and take maybe a month with camping, photos and some side trips.

CC

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Originally Posted by billinsuzhou

Brings back great memories. I used to live in Randleman, NC and used to go up to the BRP at least 5 or 6 times a year.

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Wow! 5 or 6 times a year must have been nice (as long as you didn't have to sit in traffic near Ashville). You ever hit a wild turkey? Little bastards are all over the roads!!!

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CC

CC,

I'm not so much into high speed turns, I like technical 20-50mph slower corners generally, but it depends on which bike I'm riding, as bigger bikes with wider tires feel more stable going quicker, small bikes feel more fun on the slower turns. It's been 2 years since I rode anything reasonably sized, I've almost forgotten :eek2:.

I just got an impression from watching Deals Gap videos that they were the only corners in the USA or something!:lol8: This was because so many cruiser riders went there and crashed! :eekers:

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Originally Posted by CrazyCarl

Some of the new roads in China are gorgeous and perfect for this type of thing. I can't imagine a twisty mountain road full of exotic sports cars driven by rich local drivers? Are they good drivers or just like 500hp fools?

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It's a "many new hands, plenty of fools" mixture. Miraculously, I didn't see an accident. Good drivers are rarely seen, but there are.

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Originally Posted by CrazyCarl

... One thing I missed about the US when riding in China is riders in the US tend to wave hello to each other pretty much all over the country... CC

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You always have to be on highest alert when riding in China - no time to wave :rolleyes1:

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Originally Posted by CrazyCarl

I think the Trans America Trail (TAT) would be a good time as it's an almost entirely dirt track across the US.

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Is it this one, you are referring to?
http://www.transamtrail.com/

any idea what bike the white honda is with the side bags ? THATS a sweet looking machine

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Originally Posted by 7up

any idea what bike the white honda is with the side bags ? THATS a sweet looking machine

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VFR800FI:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by CrazyCarl

Well it's certainly a different experience in China that's for sure. Pro's and con's I suppose. The challenges of riding in the US are different and take some getting used to. I'm going to have to plan another IronButt ride sometime soon... maybe on my way to Alaska? :thumbsup:

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CC

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Great! I am looking forward to see your Alaska RR as I have never riden in Alaska before. How is Mrs. CC climatising in the US of A:riding:

Now that looked like a lot of fun. Very handsome Kawasaki, by the way. Great old bikes and some nice food into the bargain!

Cheers

Pete

Well Pete, we didn't have a live band like at some of your meeting but it's good stuff for sure and a totally different world of riding than in China which, to be honest, I also enjoy when able to move around.

Franki, Miss CC and I just completed our Motorcycle Safety Foundation training course this weekend and I'm happy to announce, SHE PASSED!!! :clap::clap::clap:

She didn't think she could do it but she did thanks to a lot of hard work and a well run properly organized training class. I wonder if we could get some folks from the MSF out to China... :mwink:

CC

Franki, Miss CC and I just completed our Motorcycle Safety Foundation training course this weekend and I'm happy to announce, SHE PASSED!!! :clap::clap::clap:

She didn't think she could do it but she did thanks to a lot of hard work and a well run properly organized training class. I wonder if we could get some folks from the MSF out to China... :mwink:

CC[/QUOTE]

Congratulations! Now she can ride a bike in the USA and post RR in Chinese forum. That will break many heart of Chinese bikers:riding:

Well organised and high level driving training is not available in China. At least not for the general public. May be there is a business opportunity here for ya:deal: