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Oengus, that is a pretty cool bike and think it could do well in more than a couple markets. Nice clean classic cafe racer stylings.
Maybe we can get some more info from the el Presidente Colosimo on these rides. It sure would be nice! :mwink:
Paz,
CC
an underwhelming exercise in re-branding?
斯科特是一个婊子男孩认真，他是这样的小母狗。
HAHAH... he didn't seem like the type of guy I'd guess works at the CIA until I read that meant Cleveland Institute of Art....which definitely makes more sense. :lol8:
CC
Yeah kind of different ends of the social spectrum eh.
Speaking of classic "plain vanilla" styling, simply is incomprehensible, why only the rare Chinese brands are going this way.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrazyCarl
BTW, here's another "plain vanilla" - Minsk 500. Again, it is a Chinese engine - this time, the "Asiawing's" 500 cc thumper. It is a pity that there is no interest by the Chinese manufacturer to offer something like this.
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/859/minsk500.jpg
That’s not good picture of the machine comrade….
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That bike is cool …seriously and what’s that an OHV engine?
Translate Please….http://www.motocafe.ru/moto-novinki/...acer-2010.html
pleeease!
Minsk M500 opens new horizons
Reviews of novelties
Specialists of the Belarusian company Motovelo together with a team of design bureau Yuri Shifa some time ago demonstrated a prototype 500-cubic motorcycle with the elements of a cafe-racer style Honda GB500 Clubman, Triumph Thruxton, and Norton Commando, under the code name M500. Motorcycle M500 (or M4 500), which is the development of the existing model Minsk M4 200, should be put on sale as early as next year.
Statements from the CEO Minsk motorcycle, Andrew Maleychika, it follows that the novelty is already being produced in small amounts and is certified for the full launch of sales in the next year. The engine was selected Kitka - (from the English. Kit) set for tuning of individual units motorcycle. Chinese from the company AsiaWings, but that is a copy of the 498-cubic unit Cagiva. Promised a certificate Euro2, electric start, disc brakes on both wheels and other pleasant trifles. Motorcycle this year exhibited at motor-show MotoPark, which was presented in two versions - a 17-inch wheels with the road wheel and spitsovannyh 18-inch with a retro-silencers and kliponami.
I recall that a year ago Minsk moto-and bicycle standing on the brink of bankruptcy. President of Belarussia sold shares of the Austrian company ATEC Holding GmbH. To date, the implementation of Motor Vehicles by a subsidiary company JSC "Minsk Motorcycle Company Moto. The new owner, the company managed to escape from a difficult situation but in the scheme appeared advanced models of motorcycles Minsk. Logo, for the same reason, has been changed: now in Minsk for "stork" sly fox face
The number and arrangement of cylinders - 1 Number of cycles - 4
Engine volume, cu. cm - 498,00
Compression ratio - 9,2:1
System timing - one camshaft in the cylinder head
Valves per cylinder - 4
Cooling system - air-oil cooling Bore, stroke, mm - 92,8 h73, 6
Power, kW / rev min - 30/7800
Torque, Nm / rev min - 39,3 / 5500
Type front wheel suspension - telescopic forks
Suspension type rear wheel - Swingarm with two shock absorbers
Type front wheel brakes - disc
Type rear wheel brakes - disc
Drive type - chain
Length, mm - 2170
Seat height, mm - 775
Wheelbase mm - 1430
Clearance, mm - 145
Dry weight, kg - 173.00
Google translation of the page.
The kitka engine;
500 oil-cooling the engine (LD192YMR) for the single cylinder air-cooled four-stroke engine fuel cooling, using the Italian technology, a powerful output of the surging power at low-rpm! Maximum Power 30kw (7800r/min), maximum torque 39.3Nm (5500r/min), ignition mode MSE 3.0, plating ceramic cylinder, the German Bosch EFI system, designed with the theoretical speeds of up to 150km / h or more, on-demand can be equipped with Built-in reverse, long-distance travel for large displacement motorcycles and all-terrain vehicle class.
500cc engine features:
1. Italy CAGIVA technology, stable and reliable.
2. Power of large, low speed high torque, low fuel consumption.
3. Electroplating ceramic cylinder.
4. Air-cooled fuel the cold, the cooling effect is good.
5. Germany's Bosch EFI system specifically assigned.
6. Demand can be equipped with built-in reverse, suitable for ATV applications.
Specifications
Engine Model LD192YMR
Engine Type single cylinder, oil cooling, four-valve, single overhead camshaft
Displacement 498ml
Bore / Stroke 92.8mm × 73.6mm
Compression ratio of 9.2:1
Maximum Power 30kw/7800r/min
Maximum torque 39.3N.m/5500r/min
Idle 1500 ± 100r/min
Sfc = 340g / kw.h
Ignition mode DC-CDI / MSE 3.0
Clutch Type Wet multi-plate
Starting Mode Electric / kick start
Shift mode five-speed; international profile
Lubrication Pressure Splash
Fuel grade 93 gasoline
Oil Grade APL SG SAE 15w/40
APL SG SAE 0w/30
Weight 48kg
It seems that the on-line translator did the job, but there are couple words that aren't translated:
spitsovannyh - spoked
kliponami - clip-on handles
Kitka - the translator made a mistake, the original text says "kitaiskii" which means "Chinese".
I noticed…certain things made little sense but overall it is actually very good.
The second posting was a translation from AsiaWing’s Chinese site and was surprisingly informative.
I have to agree with you that it is surprising that others are not taking advantage of the low cost engines and building around them. It requires a design engineer though, I suppose. That 500cc engine is worth designing around if they can keep the price down.
Were is that engine with EFI? The Asia wing site claims a Bosch EFI for the engine?
The engine does match specification on the Cagiva 500 less a few hp -4
I think that Carl to kill us both - we went into a deep Offtopic.
I would be satisfed if some of them have someone who may well copy something such as, for example, '90. Yamaha SRX-400. On this bike a few horsepower more or less have no practical meaning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oengus
http://oono.cbiz.co.jp/shopping/upfile/srx400-1.jpg
Thats a good design, YinXiang has a 125cc version...not the same but similar.
CFMoto Jetax 250cc scooter outlined in original post, is now available and is being sold on the domestic (China mainland) market for a RRP RMB17800. Also want to confirm that CFMoto aka ChunFeng here in China, will be releasing a 650cc twin cylinder 4 stroke road bike toward the end of 2010. The two CFMoto guys I spoke with had conflicting prices with one saying RMB40000 while the one guy in yesterdays phone conversation told me it'd be around RMB36000. Either way I'd say somewhere between RMB36-40K on the domestic Chinese market. As the release date approaches they will release more information and update their website(s). CFMoto have no plans for a larger displacement scooter nor a dual purpose bike. Pity.
The two road 650cc twin bikes are 650NK and 650TK/TR. There is a rumor that CFMoto will release a third variant. This will be in the adventure style bike like the Suzuki V-Strom and BMW GS.Quote:
Originally Posted by bikerdoc
Ah huh... David this thread is from 2010. If you read the various threads concerning all things CFMoto since then... you will likely stumble across discussions concerning the CF650MT aka CF650AK - the adventure model from CFMoto.Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidC
Just thought to bring it up to date. Have yet to see the CF650MT or CF650AK.Quote:
Originally Posted by bikerdoc