Ok, thanks, I'll check them on this weekend :)
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Ok, thanks, I'll check them on this weekend :)
This might help a little:
http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcyc...helmet-faq.htm
Thanks for the tip! I popped by there today and it has an extensive selection of helmets, and decent clothing/boots upstairs.Quote:
Originally Posted by filipu
I am definitely adding this shop to my list. It is out by the West 5th Ring Road, so a bit of a jaunt for many, but very convenient to Line 1.
Here's a map for anyone else in Beijing who might be interested.
http://i52.tinypic.com/20k68gm.jpg
With a closeup for detail:
http://i56.tinypic.com/2jcc45f.jpg
You didn't go a bit further down the road to the north, to practise driving 8's? This shop is on the way to laoshan practise course!
Yeah, I noticed that the MC driving school was apparently close by. So I went to take a peek at the course my compatriots used to get their MC licenses, but I couldn't find the MC track. Just saw a lot of young women practicing parallel parking in white Santanas. It was entertaining enough to stop and watch for a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry
On reflection, I'd say that this wldamotor shop identified by filipu is probably the best I've seen inside Beijing for helmets. FHL has a good selection, but it is expensive.
One more thing, do you know when is Mr Yu shops open? I'd like to go there before/after work :)
One of the difficulties with sourcing helmets inside China, as has been mentioned in this thread, is the lack of choices and an apparent abomination in size selections. Case in point, I've two HJC CL-22N open face helmets in sliver, both bought from a HJC Taobao dealer. When I used the dealers accompanying measurement guide on the dealers taobao website shop front, my headsize was designated a 'XL' extra large even though I know my head size is actually a 'S = small' and has been for the past 33+ years of riding motorcycles, where my head has always been an adult 'S' small size. In PRC though the size can be 'S' small through to 'XL' extra large. When I ordered my helmet from the aforementioned dealer/seller, I received a 'XL' and 'XXL' as they only had the one 'XL' in stock. The fit is fine, though the 'XXL' is just a little big especially if I've just cut my hair short.
I've bought a few other helmets online primarily through Taobao and I've come to the conclusion that various dealers/sellers are using head sizing and measurements interchangeably between, child, youth sizing and adult sizing, hence the variation and discrepancy. There may also be some variation between manufacturers, where no standard sizing is applied. I've seen and experienced so much variation in sizing determinations while in China, it borders on ludicrous.
Last year I bought a number of items from getgeared in the UK, boots, riding jacket, trousers and a HJC CL-MAX flip top helmet, and when I used their companies website measuring chart I have a 'L' large sized noggin. The size is an 'L' and also fits well. Go figure...
I've bought several other helmets from various motorcycle shops or motorcycle supply stores (there's a fairly decent one based in QingDaoHu (1000 island lake) with all manner of motorcycle accessories (tyres, tubes, batteries, locks, chains, sprockets, HID lights/bulbs etc.) and that's all they sell - no motorcycles)) where I have bought a couple of fairly decent "looking" GSB brand helmets, without any sizing information at all, amongst a few other items.
My advice, is if your buying check sizing carefully, given the misinformation and variation. If trying a helmet on, it should feel snug but not overly constrictive. It should be able to sit on ones head without much lateral rotation in the horizontal plane nor flexion and extension in the vertical plane either, when using ones hands to force external movement to the helmet when it is worn. Too sloppy and the helmet is likely to dislodge and come off in the event of a collision/dismount. Too tight/restrictive will result in a headache at a minimum.
In China they don't worry too much to helmets nor the sizing if a motorcyclist does bother to wear one. The dealer/seller generally know little, are misinformed or don't give a sh!t - 没有问题的
I second what bikerdoc says re sizing.
I have become a fan of HJC helmets, owning the CL Max for me & the IS Max for sweety (which was only 500 rmb at the wldamotor shop). An HJC fan until I read this article on Webbikeworld. Haven't checked my HJCs, yet. For reference, I also have an LS2 flip-up on which the locking mechanism failed.
Mr. Yu has opened a second shop next to his first, carrying upper end riding gear, including beautiful Schuberth helmets at a mere 5500 to 6500 rmb. I think I have posted a map to Mr. Yu's shop(s) somewhere before but couldn't find it, so here it is again (in response to Worr's request above):
http://i54.tinypic.com/11kz39d.jpg
That is Yaojiayuan Road (East West). His shop is in the shopping mall on the South side of Yaojiayuan Rd. You access the mall parking lot in the driveway immediately after the pedestrian light/crosswalk. Go through the parking lot, staying left, almost to the end. His shop is on the left side.
Yup, I think I was able to find his shop - assuming it's not that big, something lie 15 helmets in total? Map helped me a lot :). Unfortunately, I have a S size which means a big no no. I tried L but it was like a big bag on my head ;)
Btw, where do you think helmets are cheaper? Here or in US? Let's assume no shipping costs etc. I'm thinking about low-quality helmet, something for 500-700rmb :)
An HTC helmet at 700 or 800 rmb is not a "low-quality" helmet. (at least I hope not, since that's what I use mainly.)
what i took from that webbikeworld article was that the far bigger issue is "helmet vs no helmet", i.e., don't leave home without it. it's very difficult to quantify the relative quality of various helmets, but it's easy -- very easy -- to quantify the relative quality of helmet vs no helmet.
LJH, what was your takeaway from the article that made you hesitant about the HTC?
cheers
Heh heh sorry, for me there's no "helmet vs no" issue because I had to wear helmets all the time. As for low-quality, I didn't want to offend your helmet :). What I mean is that usually helmets that you paid for around 600-800rmb (in my homecountry) started to wear off after one - two years of usage. Visor started to be heavy to use, paint was wearing off, the same with liner. I'm talking about everyday usage, since even if you wanted to drive 2km to shop, you had to wear a helmet - and police was serious about that.
At the same time, HJC helmets are cheaper here that in my country - while other brands, Suomy, Shoei etc are way more expensive. So I'm kind of confused why :)
@ worr ... check out that shop filipu found for us (see above maps on Line 1 by West 5th ring road). Good helmet shop.
@ euphonius ... the potential for helmet failure, given HJC's poor attachment of the flip-up mechanism (plastic mounting holes and short screws). Flip-ups have a bit of a bad rep but I still think they are better than open face, although probably far behind full face (for safety). My head cooks at traffic lights in a full face. Yeah, yeah, it explains it ... my brain is fried ater all these years!
Bought an HJC classico, the flip-up mechanism seemed superior to the LS2 and Tanked helmets' .. (tanked makes bad helmets)
Short screws? I didn't try to disassemble the visor, but it had small studs on each side and could only be opened if I pull on one side of the jaw piece at a time, felt much more secure than the LS2 which opens by pushing a big thumb button. Also my ears have plenty of room, makes wearing the helmet for hours on end comfortable. Also the vents work very well. The fabric felt smoother and of better quality than the LS2. It doesn't have a sunshade visor, but it's lighter and I feel more comfortable turning my head around to look behind me. The only bad thing about it is the strap. Whoever chose this should be shot dead by a firing squad.
http://i.imgur.com/8Mfq7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/AsDGR.jpg
Here every helmets looking wonderful. Every helmet manufacture is great. My first helmet, bought from the www.cyclegear.com series "West Coast", "zero seven seven", and called made in China, but with no explicit reference to Chinese manufacturer.
slabo I'm curious, what's wrong with that D-ring strap?
I ended up with buying AFX from US, even that store near 5th ring didn't have my size ;)
Dear IsiahPerris,Quote:
Originally Posted by IsiahPerris
You are posting from India? Very pleased to welcome you to MCM, though I see your signature is an advertisement, which gives a little pause. How about browsing over to the Welcome to MCM thread and properly introducing yourself. Are you riding a China bike? Would love to hear more about your experiences in India. Many of use who are based in China and elsewhere have ambitions to ride in India.
Cheers!
Do they? Strange as I have one and like it. Great value for money and has lasted well, much better than most of the other Chinese budget brands. Although the flip-up Tanked Pete tried we didn't like due to the fit and weight. Marushin and HJC are easily available and are generally better.Quote:
Originally Posted by slabo
You need to take off your gloves to be able to do or undo the strap. but even if you somehow could manage to work the d-ring with gloves on, you need two hands to do that. With other helmets you could manage with one hand with your gloves on, just click a button or pull on a lever of some kind and you're free.Quote:
Originally Posted by Worr
Yes, as compared to other Chinese brands, I found their openface helmets good. A bit on the light side, but good quality as compared to others out there. But I was talking specifically about their modular helmets. The shield was too easy to open, with just one finger, barely any effort, the lid flipped open. the locking mechanism felt too flimsy as compared with HJC and LS2 helmets.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZMC888
D-Ring chin straps are safer and more comfortable than buckles. MotoGP requires all riders to have a D-Ring chin strap. I can do mine with one hand, but not with heavier gloves. Not to turn this into a pissing match / what oil is better thread, but neither system is better than the other. Some people prefer the clips and others prefer D-Rings. It's got nothing to do with the manufacturing quality of the helmet.Quote:
Originally Posted by slabo
Cheers!
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I didn't like their front opening helmets either, but I didn't misrepresent to make it seem like all their helmets were bad. It's like saying 'all Honda's are overweight sofas' then when someone says they like Honda's you say 'I was only talking about the Goldwing'Quote:
Originally Posted by slabo
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