OK I can not find a good translator for that page. I want those pictured with the extended shields. Can someone direct me to a translator?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChinaV
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OK I can not find a good translator for that page. I want those pictured with the extended shields. Can someone direct me to a translator?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChinaV
Google did translate it as good as it can get and there is the Zhongwen plugin (mouse over Chinese characters) for FF and Chrome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger
Well I'm glad your hand-job had a happy ending!:mwink:
Yes, here's to happy endings :jerkoff:
Couple of questions and observations:
Euphonius: How can you tell those bars are not 7/8"? They look like stock bars in stock clamps.
Milton: The aluminium clamp on the handlebar is the wrong one for your kind of handlebar, these are a better fit and use a plastic bushing which helps with vibration.
http://www.contactdi.com/2010/gear/1000800.jpg
The handlebars should be drilled first, most of them have an inner diameter that is too small for the inserts.
http://www.contactdi.com/2010/gear/1080250.jpg
Everything should fit together tight and not have a large gap at the end of the bar where it meets the grip.
http://www.contactdi.com/2010/gear/1080485.jpg
None of the handguards I've purchased have been a quick installation, never listen to a taobao seller, they're usually full of :bs:. If you mix and match the various mounting hardware found among the different kits, you will usually get a perfect fit without any bending or force.
Removing the weights on the end of your handlebars will probably result in increased vibration.
Cheers!
ChinaV
ChinaV, one of several differences between the 2009 JH600 and the 2010 威虎版 is the presence of many alloy parts, including the bars. Mine are for sure stock/standard garden-variety steel bars. I've seen MotoKai's 威虎版 and the bars are definitely thicker. Whether the alu bars or the steel bars are 7/8 inch shall be left to the tape. I can check tomorrow.
Many thanks for the primer! (Damn I envy you guys with the nice shops and professional photographers to shoot you in the act of drilling (which opens the door to more imaginative puns)...)
cheers
jkp
Imagine how simple our lives here would be if every taobao seller was like ChinaV.....
I just figured that i dont have to deal with issues like hand guards our similar stuff ;-)
Milton: The aluminium clamp on the handlebar is the wrong one for your kind of handlebar, these are a better fit and use a plastic bushing which helps with vibration.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChinaV
Euphonius and I each bought a set. The clamps you showed did not fit my bike. It supposedly fits Euphonius' which is steel and not tapered like mine.
The handlebars should be drilled first, most of them have an inner diameter that is too small for the inserts.
I doubt that the shop I went to has a drill press. The installation on mine looks terrible, after seeing yours correctly put together. Need to find a place with a drill press.
....., you will usually get a perfect fit without any bending or force.
My guys did nothing but bending and force. After playing out my guinie pig role, I will wait and see where Euphonius will go to have his installed.
Cheers
Hmmm that's interesting, my bars are fat tapered ones too.Quote:
Originally Posted by milton
The easiest thing to do is just leave it in my garage with the parts sitting on the seat. A grumpy little magic elf usually comes in during the night and installs these things. He also has a tendency to wash and detail the bike as well. :mwink:
I purchased a wide variety of hand guards over the years, and unlike the BMW parts that bolt right on to Chinabikers ride, none of them worked as advertised. The first issue I noticed, is the handlebar insert. The one in the photo below is the best I have found. The threaded cone at the end is 12.5mm, so you will need to drill your bars to 13mm to make them work. The reason I use a drill press is that my hand drill chuck is not big enough for a 13mm drill bit.
http://www.contactdi.com/2010/gear/1080508.jpg
If these inserts are too long, you can cut them down with a hacksaw, just put some kind of a collar around them before you do or you will most likely bend them.
http://www.contactdi.com/2010/gear/1080511.jpg
Cut your handgrips with a razor. The left one is pretty easy to do, the right one requires more precision, as you don't want to cause the throttle to bind.
http://www.contactdi.com/2010/gear/1080491.jpg
Now comes the part where you need to do some mixing and matching. These are the three different mounting kits you will find on almost all the hand guards in China. Depending on your bars, the middle one is usually the best. If your handlebars are too big, the plastic collars in the left hand ones can be used instead. The reason I like the middle and left hand ones, is that they pivot a bit which helps in the installation. I have never had to use force to install these on any bike. Just put them on and finger tighten everything without any issue.
http://www.contactdi.com/2010/gear/1080506.jpg
Once you get everything adjusted, lock-tight and tighten all the bolts.
http://www.contactdi.com/2010/gear/1080503.jpg
Be sure to leave a little gap on the left and right hand sides of your throttle grip. If you are replacing your grips, a little spray paint on the inside works great to keep them from slipping.
Cheers!
ChinaV
Grr, lost long post
ok, brief: I want to fit bar-end mirrors as well as guards, is possible? any insert for insert?
I used taobaofocus and somehow found 丝绸短裤 AGAIN but persevered and finally
chose the same ones as ChinaV recommends which is a nice coincidence
tried to buy but script hung
is it possible to buy and sign up for alipay out of country
or use paypal somehow? Translation engines and my brain not good tonight
can't see how to get fittings for Kinlon
I don't think you can use Alipay without having access to a bank in China. Paypal and credit cards do not work. You also can't conduct a transaction through a translation page, it usually makes the security scripts fail. Bar end mirrors like the ones I just posted in my Yingang thread might work with a bit of grinding and some really long bolts.
Cheers!
ChinaV
Thank you. I had before seen a couple of Chinese vendors (in searches but not necessarily on Ebay) that had Paypal references. One was on Taobao so I was thinking of asking them to draw up an invoice for paypal payment. Easier to get some nice friendly chap like you or Jeff to do it, was just trying to see if I could work it. Will PM you when I have a few things to get!
The choice of handguards OR bar mirrors would be obvious for usage and situation except on a dual sport, r/t bike when you need both. I have the mirrors just like yours and like them but I also want handguards. I just wondered if anyone had designed an insert. Might have to bodge it myself.
jape,
I've seen some hand guards with foldout mirrors that might be the ticket for a off road rider like you.
Bump!
Dear Milton, are you still in possession of the hand guards you ordered for me? I'd love to complete the transaction and get them on the bike! With interest I probably owe you a few bucks, or beers.
thanks/cheers!
Saw these on taobao and though it was relevant:
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=3697757603
Pros: they fit on the JH600, great weather protection
Cons: don't protect your levers in a crash, ugly as hell
any links please mate? google and ebay searches find me none of them!Quote:
Originally Posted by barnone
Yes, Jeff, I am still in possession of "your" hand guards and waiting for my beers. Just took them out from my tail box the other day when I needed space there. I also left you a post about my battery tender junior that I bought in the States which is in need of a voltage converter in order to be of any use in China. Let me know if you want to offer me more beers in exchange for borrowing my battery tender.Quote:
Originally Posted by euphonius
CHeers.
Milton
From the sounds if things, you may be needing to borrow MY charger, in which case we'd have to recalculate the flow of beer. If all goes well, I'll have my deluxe charger by tomorrow.
http://img02.taobaocdn.com/imgextra/...!!50533076.jpg
perhaps we can organize a New Year's (no-)Bike Night in a local watering hole this weekend. You bring your charger, I'll bring mine! :bling::bling:
cheers!
Googled "hand guards mirrors" and came up with many includingQuote:
Originally Posted by jape
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...th-Mirror.aspx
http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=776050
http://www.supermotojunkie.com/showt...-mount-mirrors
http://www.amazon.com/POWERMADD-HAND.../dp/B000UK625W
http://powermaddstore.com/pm/product.php?productid=156
YOUR charger indeed looks deluxe, but then one can never fault a made-in-China stuff for its lack of look. However, how it will deliver what is labeled on the package is another matter all together. On the other hand, MY charger is a name brand hand-carried from the States with proven performance demonstrated by loads of people in the States. As it stands now, which direction the free beer would flow is not certain at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by euphonius
Well, jokes aside, we really should organize a (no-)Bike Night for our Shanghai MCM cohort. The weekend after this one may be better when most people would have been back from their CNY holidays.
Cheers.
Milton
thanks Barnone, i didn't get any, maybe an .au search was the fault. Anyway, much appreciatedQuote:
Originally Posted by barnone
I'm pretty sure these I have just received are the same as on China V's new Qlink. Anyway, you can see the fittings reasonably well. The bracket screws to the hanguard with acountersunk screw passing through a slot. The slot has no countersink to match the screw head, there is nothing that fits the underside of the slot on the bracket either. Just flat to flat. Seems like a poor design, a weak point. unless there is a bit missing from my kit?
Has anyone else got these and are they the same as mine? China V?
Attachment 3211Attachment 3212
Sorry Jape, I'm a visual guy...not quite understanding whatcha talkin bout. You mean this?
http://www.contactdi.com/2011/1090104a.jpg
Cheers!
ChinaV
P.S. Maybe move this into handjob to keep things tidy.
Yes, moved, thyank you.
That is exactly the fitting I mean, thanks. Seems to lock up nice and tight on your bike, tight enough to hold it all together and protect in an 'off' I hope? Nothing on the underside to fit into the slot, just relies on the tightened bolt with a countersunk end, squeezed in to the flat-sided slot on the handguard? I can't fit it to my bars yet, the brace bar joins where I want that bracket to go. Will have ot fiddle around later. I also think, if I could find a longer bolt for the bar-end expanding fitting thingy, the bar-end mirrors could fit onto that. We shall see.
I can now say with confidence that these hand guards are excellent. They really work!
http://euphonius.smugmug.com/Motorcy.../IMG3941-M.jpg
cheers!
Mr. E, is that poor thing lying on its side with a new ADLO tail box your beloved JH600? I hope your collar bone survived this mishap.
BTW, I believe my all black ADLO box matches better with the black JH600.
Cheers!
Thanks, Milton! The Adlo box took the insult just fine, thanks. In fact, that was but one of two gravitationally induced interactions with Earth experienced by parts of my JH600 other than the tires....
These were slow-speed encounters, thankfully, undertaken during some very rousing and rustic off-road riding.
cheers!
Rousing & Rustic indeed!
And who know you could find so much fun, so close to Shanghai?
euphonius in action out at 东山镇/Dongshanzhen
I left my protractor at home, but that's some serious incline the JH600 is taking.
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6027/...5cb9050b_z.jpg
A view from the top
That dragon's tails down below is the small path that wound its way to the base of the hill where we found this farming dirt road.
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6015/...cd322a85_z.jpg
euphonius making tracks
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6149/...318c4378_z.jpg
Fahrvergnügen
Also known as: 驾驶乐趣
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6128/...6f67fb21_z.jpg
Ouch ouch ouch!Quote:
Originally Posted by euphonius
Glad u r ok, Mr Euph, but what about the right side of Missy JH? This can't be good for the paint.
Not to worry, Richard. As noted, these were slow-speed affairs, and in fact the cautious speed contributed mightily to the fateful instability. Riding that hill was like riding on large, loose squared off marbles, very loosey goosey. No damage to pilot whatsoever, and the bike was unblemished too. Crash bars right where you need them. And I guess I let her down gently.
cheers!