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Originally Posted by Zorge
Maybe on the Jetmax v2 :mwink:Quote:
Originally Posted by bikerdoc
Thanks for the heads up on that one, I will watch that..Quote:
Originally Posted by bikerdoc
woooo hooooo.... Thanks for that bikerdoc :thumbsup: I will post my progress right hereQuote:
Originally Posted by bikerdoc
Hi i fitted HID to my JETLUX works very well and haveing 2 head lights at the front helps a lot please see picture
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The only thing i did not like about my bike was the clear plastic front screen tried to put window tint on it but did not work so i resorted to mad ideal lets paint it ??? it worked for me ok keeps the chinese looking for sure
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^Nice picture you got on the screen. Is it a type of transfer? How you finding the Jetlux? I personally didn't like the smaller wheels meaning one sits lower to the ground, single sided front disc rotor, lack of fairing protection, the way the pillion seat is hinged at the rear meaning adding a mounting plate for a top-box while achievable is more complicated than it needs to be. Other than that aesthetically it ticks some boxes that my Jetmax doesn't quite, but then the Jetmax has the positives that I found to be a negative on the Jetlux. YMMV.
I've been ready up on the whole HID thing, now I know what its all about. Only thing in the way are the silly laws here in the UK regarding them.Quote:
Originally Posted by prince666
Looks pretty cool, dont know if I would be brave enough to do something like that though....Quote:
Originally Posted by prince666
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Originally Posted by bikerdoc
Hi "doc" not Transfer it is hand painted with a air brush a "one of" had it done by a freind of mine when i was back in the uk the seat is only i think 1.5 " lower then the jetmax i have 33" inside legs and the jetlux seat is fine with me as i like to have my 2 feet flat on the road when i stop whit the seat hight you need to ride it with your legs going forward like easey rider prosition ?? pushing your bum up to the step in the seat you came have your legs out at nearly 90 deg to the seat nice when you are rideing for a long time the back split seat is a bummer if you are thinking about a box for the rear i am not so it is fine with me found out the top speed now on the clock 140 km at 9800 rpm would not like to maintain this speed for a long time ??? rides nice at 110 km done about 3000 km on it now runs abit lumpy at low rpm not sure why ?? as to the fairing i like a low type all it means you get a dirty face and a bit of wind but when it is hot nice to get the cool rush of air in your face yes would of been nice to of had the twin front disc but hay doc shit happens in china but front bike works well and dont looks like going to lock up when useing hard hope to step up next year to the 650 cc moto but frist do a year on this bike to get used to the roads here join bike club in Longkou so we go out alot on ride but "all" the other menbers have big bikes
650/1300 cc but i keep up with them ok untill they realy put the power down then it is bye bye steve but they dont like to leave me so this dont happen a lot very nice people with have at the club treats me like one of them they make a big point when we meet othe chinese people and they call me "lawoai" they are quick to tell them his name is\ "steve" not laowai which is nice .....well have a look at the crew ..
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sorry cant say to much here not my post sorry wirral will talk more about my trips with these guys late DOC ...
What started out as an enquiry about a top box for my scoot led me to contact the distributers here in the UK for the required parts. Some phone calls and emails later - you've guessed it -Not available for the UK.
Was this going to be the end of the road? Was I going to be limited with what I could squeeze under the seat?
Nope! A guy over 8000 kilometres away (as the crow flies), offered to help and went to the time and trouble to order the parts from the manufacturer, and then to ship them over to me. (plus other parts that cost extortionate prices here).
What can I say but a big THANK YOU
Hopefully I can return the favour.
I hope you wont mind me giving you a shout out. BIKERDOC :thumbsup:
I cant wait to get these puppies installed. Stay tuned.
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Hey Rob, great to see that the goods arrived without any dramas. Happy to have helped a fellow rider out, and happy to do so again, if the need arises. I know how frustrating it can be to know that something is available and can be done, but to be faced with barriers - it's actually quite a typical scenario in mainland Ch!na. At least this time I could help someone else out.
Anytime, anytime... now get the pics of the installs with the new box...
Swap out your headlight bulbs for some real HID lights, and change out the single horn for some electric "air" type dual horns (just in front of the radiator - see my review thread), look out swapping out the tyres for some a little wider and add/weld tabs to the ends of the centre stand legs and you are getting a little closer to a fairly decent scoot. You might like to add a small air pneumatic type arm to underside of the seat to keep it open too. That is doable and adds a nice touch. Actually there are many mods that I have done, like bolstering the seat to give several more centimetres in height and a softer ride overall.
Better stop here.
Glad you got the goods though, now go play!
:)
What an easy job. It took around thirty minutes (I took it easy), but what a transformation. My scoot redefines practicability, I love it. Not much to write about the install, four bolts to remove the old bars, eight bolts to put the new kit together - plus a few bolts for the topbox. Thanks again to bikerdoc for making this possible. Here are some pics of my scoot, now with a rather fat behind :naughty:
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Forgot to mention in my previous post. When I removed the right handle, I could see the rear indicator chrome was rather badly tarnished/pitted, today I noticed that the lens had condensation inside - damn another leaky lens. This may have to be replaced as the whole chrome surrounding inside is also pitted (not seen in pic). Any how, today I painted the mild steel exhaust pipe with POR15 heat resistant paint, and I fitted an "under the seat" self adhesive LED light. Hmmmm.. I wonder if hard luggage cases are possible :mwink:
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No rain today... :icon10:
Well today I leave work and get to my scoot, lo and behold - no ignition lights - no nothing....
Oh dear! I thought - nah! it was a lot more colourful than that :taz:
Right stuck over 25 miles from home, I'd better ring the RAC (recovery).
An hour later they turn up, his first thought - the battery is dead. Volt meter connected - nope not that.
Where's your fuses he asks, I open up the glove box and he takes a look at all the fuses (in the little fuse box) - nope not them.
Next he looks at what he called the "main fuse" (in the white plastic container) nope not that.
He turns on the ignition - Surprise, surprise - NOTHING!
He continues fiddling with the wires (especially the main fuse) - holy schmoly, the ignition comes on :clap:
Then he asks what the flashing light on the dash is - errrm... I dont know... He says it may be a error light. (I should have read the manual)...
Any how I ride off, and fuel up three miles from home. Go to start up - NOTHING!.
Sh!t........ I know, fiddle with the wires - ignition comes on and starts, but the engine wont run and coughs and splutters. Sh!t...... Turn off and fiddle some more...
Fires up and runs - I hastily head home.
Right wheres that *@xx*@ manual.
OK, the pigeon English isn't that bad, I think I know how to read the flashes...
Back at the scoot I count the flashes....
One long - fifteen short...
Refer to the manual.
Ten and fifteen = 25 - errors with the roll sensors.
Any one know what roll sensors are, where they are, and why it would stop the ignition coming on - but then work with a bit o' fiddling....
First thing in the morning - telephone call to the supplier :hellfire:
Roll (over) sensors? On a scooter?
I would sprinkle Jetmax with holy water. Just in case...
roller sensors, hmmm are you sure you are reading the error code flashes correctly. The first series of flashes will be long so you count how many of those there are then how many short duration flashes follow. The long duration flashes equal multiple of ten (10) so one long flash equals ten (10), whereas two long flashes equals twenty (20). The short duration flashes are singles (multiples of one). Example two long flashes equal twenty (20), followed by two short flashes which would equal two (2). Add both together [20+2=22] and get twenty two (22). Sorry if I am telling you how to suck eggs. Just want to be sure you are calculating correctly. Let me know what you work out. Any help or questions just ask. I don't mind to help you out.
Hi bikerdoc,Quote:
Originally Posted by bikerdoc
One long flash followed by fifteen short.
The manual states this:
ERROR TYPES = ERROR-SAFETYSW1
INDICATING FLASH = 25
ERROR DESCRIPTION = Errors with roll sensor
I called the distributer this morning, and they are looking into it :confused1:
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OK, I've done some searching and found this (see attached pic), now where does this little gem live?
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A logical question is: WGH, were you able to locate this sensor on your scooter?
Good question!Quote:
Originally Posted by Zorge
Nope! - I haven't had time to investigate.
The distributers are "looking into it" and say the will get back to me with the location of the offending item.
If it is easy to access, I assume they will send me a replacement.
OK, first up a question WGH. Has your Jetmax been tipped onto its side at all? A little fall over perhaps? This is what that device monitors (tip over).
Try this remedy, to stop the flash (allow a several seconds between each step as below).
Ignition key off > roll the throttle wide open > turn on ignition key (keep throttle wide open) > turn on lights > release throttle > turn off ignition > switch on ignition (with lights on) > now press starter button.
Good luck.
hey bikerdoc,Quote:
Originally Posted by bikerdoc
No, not the slightest of tips or fall....
I will try your remedy tonight, and will post results here. thanks for the reply :thumbsup:
Unfortunately the sequence didn't cancel the error flash :sad:
But the distributers sent me out the new roll switch :icon10:
Anyone know where I can find this on the scoot.
The manual isn't much help.
Calling bikerdoc...............Calling bikerdoc.................:mwink:
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I should mention that the only way I can get the ignition to turn on is by disconnecting the master fuse, and reconnect it a few minutes later. It then starts its diagnostics and will fire up. This is not allways the rule, sometimes it still wont turn on and I have to try again.
I knew the roll switch wasn't anywhere in the front of the scoot (I've been in there too many times).
While pondering where to start looking, I glanced at the front of the seat. Low and behold, I could see the little blighter through the plastic grille.
Eight tappers ant two bolts later, I had access :clap:
Quick swap over, covers back and the Jetmax started right up - no warning flashes - just a good girl again.
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What's inside the sensor assembly? Is it waterproof? Can it be fixed with a little WD-40?
Sorry for the late reply. Away over in an island (TaoHua Island) of the coast mainland China. To bad the throttle procedure hasn't worked for you. None the less you've got the replacement module. That is an easy job, tucked nicely away underneath the seat, remove the front cowling section and you should see it just in front of the EFI unit. You'll need a PK screwdriver and either a 10 or 12mm socket/spanner or adjustable spanner. I swapped out the two bolts for some bigger PK headed bolts so I can just take that cowling cover off with only a PK screwdriver instead. OK. Got to run, I'm off with one of the guys for ride up to one of the mountain summits near an old temple that's more than a few centuries old.Quote:
Originally Posted by WirralGhostHunter
Shiny side up...
Dont know whats inside, all sealed with a clear epoxy - nothing to squirt some WD into. I can hear something rattle inside tho'...............Quote:
Originally Posted by Zorge
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Originally Posted by bikerdoc
All cool bikerdoc, everything sorted. Hope you post some pics of your adventure..........
Great info Guys. I'm happy with my Jetmax ,Just had a first service done. my previous scoot was a Firenze 250 and a 4WD rear ended me and it was a write off. I am still a bit edgy when I am pulling up and I have noticed one thing about the Jetmax. The poor rear rear/stop tail light, visibility wise. I had a RJAYS box fitted when I bought the scoot and recently thought , why haven't they put a provision for a stop/tail light on the box. the box has a wraparound red plastic molding mid section and is like a tail light lens so I undid the molding and placed a 3 LED strip behind each side. I now have a very bright stoplight at high level and think it will be seen a lot better.Quote:
Originally Posted by WirralGhostHunter
I recently bought a new ADLO (www.adlo.net) "2012" model topbox to fit to the rear of my new Suzuki Burgman executive. I currently have 4 ADLO 981 model topboxes on my other rides in my garage, and had contemplated getting a fifth from ADLO, but saw the "2012" advertised on the ADLO website, noting the slightly bigger capacity and the addition of built in LED's in the lid. So have a new addition. The 2012 topbox doesn't share the same base as the 981 models so are not interchangeable which is unfortunate. I think ADLO boxes are marketed abroad under the "BESTEM" name, though I'm not 100% certain of this.Quote:
Originally Posted by ethron
Thanks for the ADLO link. The boxes look great and you are very lucky to be able to buy from them. I wonder how the LED lights are connected to the Moto. I wanted to put a plug and socket for easy disconnect if I remove the box but weatherproofing seemed a bit difficult so I ran the wires under the seat into the box. Not real happy with that but i'll scout around for plug ideas. I found out that the Moto wont start if the seat is up. Cheers.Quote:
Originally Posted by bikerdoc
The ADLO 2012 box comes complete with a LED light cluster in the lid. The associated wiring is inside the box. When I opened the box from new, there were two sections of wiring; one section (2 wires) is from the light fitting and is long enough to exit out the base of the box ending in a couple of male "push/pull" plugs; the second section of wiring (2 wires) has both male and female plug "push/pull" plugs at each end, giving 4 plugs in total for this section of wiring. All the wiring is covered in heat shrink material except for the ends of the wiring near the plugs.
Inside the box the wiring snakes its way across the underside of the lid and down the inside back wall of the box, down through a retaining clip before being able to extend & exit its way through a small hole encircled with a rubber grommet in the base of the box closest to the hinged side of the box. This would then be connected via the "push/pull" connector plugs to the second section of wiring. As to connecting with the rear tail/brake light wiring, I'll have to work out how I am going to access this, though I will likely connect the top box wiring using something like 'posi-tap' connectors.
I'll take a couple of photos and paste them here later.
Great description Bikerdoc. It sounds like a neat job. I had to remove the luggage box and the plastic cover under the box (above the tail tight) to access the wires and used the push pull connectors then used heat shrink to seal them. The wires now come out under the back of the seat as I wasn't keen to drill a hole through the shiny cover above the tail light. Not without it's moments though as I had to pull out the luggage box again as the small clips to screw into were all very loose and I hadn't noticed that a couple fell out. After my first service they gave me a new service manual which now says 500km 1st service instead of 1000km and thereafter every 3000km. I wonder if the warranty is worth it as I serviced my SYM Firenze myself owing to what they charge here. They wanted $300 to change the drive belt and rollers on the SYM and I did it myself for $100 parts. I have to get brave enough to dismantle panels and change the headlight globes to 55watt halogens as the stock lighting is not very good. Otherwise it's a great scooter. CheersQuote:
Originally Posted by bikerdoc
Hi Guys,
It's been a while since I updated my blog, so whats life like with my Jetmax?
Ok, I have noticed recently that when the engine is cold, when I stop at a junction the engine will sometimes stall. It feels as if the engine doesnt diengage from the transmission quick enough. I have tested this theory out by approching a junction or roundabout slowly, without stopping, and I can feel there is a definate lag before I feel it disengage this is after the time I would have normally stopped (sorry if this explanation sounds rubish, but this is my first experience on a sccot).
Because of the really rubbish weather here recently I have extended the pre-warm up period but it still happens, so I have adjusted my riding accordingly.
I dont like not being 100% about my scoot, especially in rush hour traffic.
This morning the scoot just died at a set of lights :confused1: but started up again...
OK process of elimination time. I went over to bikerdocs post about the spark plug change, noted the number he had and ordered the NGK Iridium version. I will swap this out shortly and see if it improves - this is a wild card really, but I have to start somewhere. The weather here is getting increasingly cold and wet so I need to get this sorted.
Also as bikerdoc's & ethron's posts re: the poor rear light visibility, this has also been pointed out to me when my wife is following me in our 4x4, the rear box obscures it. I have ordered an LED stop & tail, which I will mount to the box (and hide the wiring). I have also ordered two small projector type LED driving lights which I intend fixing to the front.
Thats it for now, stay tuned for my next instalment :riding:
Oh here is a pic of our weather map, joys of UK climate -and yes, all the blues and greens - its the watery stuff :gaah:
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