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That bike gets around….it is heavy at 140kg, compared to the LF175-3P at 118kg.
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Originally Posted by MJH
Ni hao , my friends
you are right - we sell this model in Ukraine ( Alfamoto company )
if you have questions for this model - can ask me.
also i see discussion about new Lifan model with engine NBF150 .
it has name Irokez 150 in my country - you can find many videos , if you will use our name Irokez150.
you can put in place for searching in youtube: Irokez Alfamoto and you will see more than 25 videos.
also we made test-drive of this model in China with our central magazine MOTODRIVE 0 so you can ask....
realy it is best model from China
Здарова Альфамотовец.
Есть о чем поговорить насчет Лифана, только не пропадай.
Приветик - на все вопросы отвечуQuote:
Originally Posted by Zorge
Hello - if you have questions - i will glad reply you
Some images of a Lifan KP250, trade show prototype.
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...AN/KP250-3.jpg
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...AN/KP250-6.jpg
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...AN/KP250-5.jpg
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...AN/KP250-4.jpg
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...AN/KP250-2.jpg
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...AN/KP250-1.jpg
I don't understand these guys .... even on a prototype the frame weldings look horrible.
Yep, its hard to believe that they would send a version with such poor build quality to a show.
The Lifan website makes me want to hack into it and fix it…..it does not have an English version, which in part may explain the categories? Which are Energizer, Racing and Official on that home page, then when entering the "Racing" link the same categories then become; Energizer family car series, Racing series and Official Vehicle. When accessing the racing link then a side bars opens up and creates more categories, Prince car, Ridding car, Cub and Scooter, thats all under the link for “Racing series”
Then under the link for Energizer Family car series… it totally changes format and it has a menu of specific models and associated links, some of which are dead links?
Basically it make very little sense, the way it is set up.
The website is a maze, for example if you open the Racing category, then select XinYue from the scooter section you end up on another website, from there you are offered more selections under more categories for motorcycles, by selecting motorcycle, you then are offered three more links…
Those are Lifan Honlei and Qipai
The links to the affiliated brands are buried at least four levels into the website?
That is the Chinese site….the Lifan international site has been updated and it is far more user friendly, but lacks the bonus of Jeremy in leather ridding pants.
It list both KP models
LF150-10B(KP150)
http://www.lifan.com/UploadFile/2012...66812bc684.jpg
Dimension (L×B×H mm): 2060×745×1080
Wheel base (mm): 1330
Net Weight(kg): 138
Height Of Seat (mm): 775
Fuel Tank Capacity(L): 15
Engine Type: vertical single-cylinder,water -cooled,four-stroke
Bore×Stroke(mm): 58.5×58.8
Displacement(ml): 158
Compression ratio: 11:1
Max. Power(kw/rpm): 9.0/7500
Max. Torque(N.m/rpm): 13 /5500
Start: electric/kick start
Transmission: 5 gear, hand-clutched
Brake (front/rear): disk
Wheel: Al-alloy
Tire(front/rear): 80/100-17/110/80-17
Max. Speed (km/h): 100
Economical Fuel Consumption (L/100km): =2.0
LF250-3A (KP250)
http://www.lifan.com/UploadFile/2012...3209bcbb63.jpg
Dimension (L×B×H mm): 2013×740×1105
Wheel base (mm):1360
Net Weight(kg): 159
Height Of Seat (mm): 790
Fuel Tank Capacity(L): 18
Engine Type:vertical single-cylinder, air plus oil -cooling,four-stroke
Bore×Stroke(mm): 73×59.5
Displacement(ml): 249
Compression ratio: 9.6:1
Max. Power(kw/rpm): 15/7500
Max.Torque(N.m/rpm): 19/6500
Start: Electric start
Transmission: 6 gear, hand-clutched
Brake (front/rear): disk / disk
Wheel: Al-alloy
Tire (front/rear): 100/80-17/130/70-17
Max. Speed (km/h): 120
Economical Fuel Consumption (L/100km): =2.4
The Cossack has oil cooling, it uses the frame as an oil cooler, it circulates oil through the bikes frame. At first I thought this a revolutionary concept, but later read that it has been done before.
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...e5a174b2bb.jpg
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...76812f658d.jpg
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...048f9bf1e4.jpg
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...87f93282f8.jpg
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...1cffb8ecae.jpg
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...0ac2b8804a.jpg
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...e01c460730.jpg
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...a41dd34274.jpg
Honlei is a division of Lifan, they have a new website in the works, I say that because it is far from complete.
HL250-3A
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...46e4457ec1.jpg
LIFAN model: LF250-3A(POWER MAN 250)
Dimension (L×W×H mm): 2013×740×1105
Wheel base (mm):1360
Net Weight(kg): 159
Height Of Seat (mm): 790
Fuel Tank Capacity(L): 18
Engine Type:vertical single-cylinder, air plus oil -cooling,four-stroke
Bore×Stroke(mm): 73×59.5
Displacement(ml): 249
Compression ratio: 9.6:1
Max. Power(kw/rpm): 15/7500
Max.Torque(N.m/rpm): 19/6500
Start: Electric start
Transmission: 6 gears
Brake (front/rear): disk / disk
Wheel: Al-alloy
Tire (front/rear): 100/80-17/130/70-17
Max. Speed (km/h): 120
Economical Fuel Consumption (L/100km): ≤2.2
HL250-19B
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...2f34d19c97.jpg
LIFAN model: LF250-19(FM250V)
Dimension (L×B×H mm):2000×715×1050
Wheel base (mm):1400
Net Weight(kg):145kg
Height Of Seat (mm): 765
Fuel Tank Capacity(L): 12
Engine Type: V-double-cylinder, air-cooled,four-stroke
Bore×Stroke(mm): 49×66
Displacement(ml): 248
Compression ratio: 10:1
Max. Power(kw/rpm):13.5/8000
Max. Torque(N.m/rpm):19 /6000
Start: electric start
Transmission: 5 gear
Brake (front/rear): disk /disk
Wheel: Al-alloy
Tire (front/rear): 110/70-17/140/70-17
Max. Speed (km/h):115
Economical Fuel Consumption (L/100km): ≤2.4
They call the 250-3A the "Powerman" here is a promotional link for the bike and a journey they sent it on.
Lifan added the 200GY-5A also called the Cross 200 to their International website , they still offer the 200GY-5.
200GY-5A
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...377a858356.jpg
200GY-5
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...a5ffe00f94.jpg
that HL 250-19B looks like a dam fine bike . ps. mjh just go ahead enter the site and do what needs to be done . what a clusterfuck of shambolic website arrangement that is. as for the poor welding, its just ugly on the outside, really how often do we see these frames break? its not perfect workmanship , and shows a certain attitude to the whole idea of a bike but it takes a bit of skill and sweat to run a mig for 8 hours and make beauty weld
I wonder why some designs never get anywhere, the Lifan Cossack is one of them, this bike is a modified version of the Honda FTR223 with a copy of what looks like the Yamaha 249cc single.
They took some ideas from others and modified them, the frame became an oil cooler in the Cossack. The bike is very utilitarian.
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...FAN/FTR223.jpg
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...5da1b3ea06.jpg
Very nice read. Thanks
nevermind the weldings... that holder is missing some bracket :))Quote:
Originally Posted by ShuBen
If a company has quality control, then that also should exist in marketing…there is such a thing as quality marketing and sending a cobbled prototype to a show is not in the realm of total quality control.
In the case of Lifan they seem to be floundering at all functional levels…it is very much like a giant ship, it has to be navigated thoughtfully, they seem like the captain and crew are drunk and bouncing off a shoal.
Lifan added a new image of the LF250-3A to its English language website, they also added their new offering which is the LF200-16D
250
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...N/LF250-3A.jpg
200
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y.../LF200-16D.jpg
They have their 163FML engine in that model rated with 12kw@8000rpm and with 13.8 N.m @ 6500rpm
That is the same rating for their Cross 200
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...N/Cross200.jpg
250 adventure bike....
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...N/LF250-3p.jpg
seems oddly disproportionate....
Revised 250 GY...DOHC 4-valve engine in these.
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...offroadnew.jpg
Lifan did a real impressive job on this model, they captured the DOHC 4-valve 250cc or at least are flaunting an intention to do so.
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...6f7ff07acf.jpg
Lifan to make 500cc engine for cafe racer?
ww.visordown.com/motorcycle-news-new-bikes/british-cafe-racer-unveiled/24067.html
That article has that Zing the HMC distributor out of the UK preferred sourcing motorcycles with engines out of Lifan.
That bike is following the XY400 that Shineray has announced it will make. Since Shineray makes the RFVC 400cc engine it is likely their engine in the HMC. I would not pay $7,300.00 for that motorcycle ever, they need their heads examined if they think that is reasonable for that bike. It should be priced under $6,000.00 and even then it be hard sell.
http://www.shineray.com/UpLoad/20131111164532468.jpg
The Lifan KP150 found a home in Argentinian....as a Beta Beta AKVO
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...e1cc093089.jpg
Hamachi in Macedonia is offering the DOHC that Lifan displayed last year,
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...6f7ff07acf.jpg
its offered with two version of the DOHC a 250 or 300cc.
TCZ-300-4T /RCZ-250
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...29312d619e.jpg
The bike also comes with a 250cc oil cooled single that Lifan manufactures.
RCX-250
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...6462476843.jpg
I just am guessing that the Dual Sport comes with two DOHC engines it is possible that somebody mixed up the pictures,
http://motor.lifan.com/
I would say it is time to fire some of the people that work at Lifan, they need to find work they know how to do. They completely destroyed the companies website.
The people behind this are completely inept, they changed the corporate website and the results are what is plagued with broken and malfunctioning links. It is totally garbage.
I would say that the people behind the changes are completely inept and should be fired it’s that serious.
They could not have made more of a mess out of the site if they had tried.
I would say that the people behind this might actually have some psychological problems. It really could not be any worse, the website is a complete disaster.
I would say it is great website if nothing you sell matters, it is the most ridiculous example of a poorly designed website in the history of the Internet. Seriously is the pollution in Chongqing that bad? How does something like this happen? I try to rationalize it and can only come up with it has to do with heavy metal in the air? How can such a large company be that messed up and actually go further and further in the wrong direction?
Someone I know who works at Excalibur Motorsports knows the people bringing Lifan back to the US. They will be headquartered somewhere in the "inland empire" area of the greater Los Angeles metropolitan area where quite a few of these companies have located--SSR, BMS, Excalibur, Tao Tao, Bashan, Ice Bear, etc. are just a few...Lifan will theoretically be there in 2015.Quote:
Originally Posted by MJH
Lifan in 2015 , intends to increase its efforts to launch new products, within 2015 they will launch a variety of models. Lifan competitive KP series, will also usher in four new models: KP MINI , . KP II type, KPT150 / KPT200 , KPR250 .
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...0ee11d6804.jpg
This is lifans latest offering the KPR 150 (King Power Racing) it is a racing version of the KP150 that sold 4000 units in six months. The HP rating over the KP150 is upped in these from 13 to 15.
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...ed3a3ae03d.jpg