Another thing change the oil,,,I use castrol gtx do,nt use supermarket shit or baby oil (do you know how many babies per pint?)
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Another thing change the oil,,,I use castrol gtx do,nt use supermarket shit or baby oil (do you know how many babies per pint?)
Will be waiting for pics! Haven't ever seen that kind of lubrication done.Quote:
Originally Posted by WirralGhostHunter
Just a quick post which I will expand on later with some pics..
I've used the 650NK now for a few days. So based on that I can report that the bike fire's up first time, the engine is super smooth and has plenty of torque from idle. The gearbox change is silky smooth as well. Now the manual tells me to keep under 4K rpm while running in, this I am doing with great difficulty, as the engine wants more.. Any how on my limit of 4K rpm, I can do a tad over 60mph on the motorway - not bad going at all... I cant wait to wind her up to near 10K :naughty: The fuel consumption is looking good at 45mpg (imperial) - heres a link to my fuelly if you are interested http://www.fuelly.com/driver/camaroz...i-cfmoto-650nk
The riding position is perfect for me, and I'm surprised that the seat is so comfy. The handling is lightning quick, I hope it stays this way when used a enthusiastically.
I havent pushed the brakes, but so far they do a decent job.
The first service is sheduled for a lowly 250miles, then the second at 500 miles, are CFmoto nurturing their product, or are they unsure about reliability? I wonder if this is an importer based requirement, would be interesting to find out what the service intervals are from other countries.
Am I happy with the bike? Well errr. errr... yes, so far.....
If I didn't have the issues with the previous bikes, I would be banging on how great this ride is. BUT - I've seen the dark side of CFmoto bikes.. So as the miles pile on, I will log them here and keep you guys updated.
There is one irritating thing though.... Well there had to be one :mwink:
It's the mudguards/fenders/hugger - The front one sends all the water and debri right up the engine and radiator, and I guess any other nooks and crannies at the front, at times giving me a sauna experience, while the rear can flick everything in a nice staight line over the back of the bike and me.. Dont ask me how it manages it - but it does.
Perhaps an extender on the front will help calm matters, but I haven't a clue how to tackle the rear... Has anyone tried a Kawa er6n fender extender fix on their 650NK, or in fact any other solution? Are there any universal fender extenders for the front and rear that would do the job?
Ride safe guys...
4000 rpm limit running in? That can't be right, some people will tell you it probably do more long term harm to the rings than good to the engine, I'd personally take it halfway to the red line before first oil change at 50 miles and three quarters throttle until oil change again at 1000 miles. Or follow the Kawasaki ER6 handbook!
Enjoy, and good luck!
Hi there Ghost I would not stick religiously to 4000 rpm ,,i would set a moderate limit but more important do not put much strain on the motor.. The service intervals sound pretty low to me ,like the man says "Do like a kawa 650" Regarding the shit getting thrown all the bike you are in good company cus just the same happens to me,Front and back,,,Last thing KEEP IT CLEAN.....Quote:
Originally Posted by WirralGhostHunter
Hey ZMC888 & lipsee,
Thanks for you input, I have found the owners manual for the Kawa er6n, and guess what.... They also say to not exceed 4K during break in... Look like CFmoto copied their running in procedure too....
Hey buddy, good to know I'm not alone lol...Quote:
Originally Posted by lipsee
Shiny side up guys...
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My 650i went in for it's first service a week or so ago, 250miles on the dot. When I went to pick it up, I was expecting the usual hong kong phooey remarks.... Not so, positive comments, one even said, you'll have some good fun with that... Has this bike passed the mechanics approval I wonder....
Any how, I have been riding as per Kawasaki er6n running in directions. The bike hasn't let me down, fires up first time and rides like a dream - touch wood!
Shes approaching the 500 mile marker, and as today was warm and sunny (for a British March) I decided to fit my Tutoro Auto Chain Oiler. As lipsee has correctly observed, some chain oiler installs leave a little to be desired.
I approached the task in hand with a stealth install mindset.. I removed the parts necessary to get access to the hidden inner workings of the bike - well the chain guard anyway....
I purchased the kit with both single and dual oiler nozzles, and went to try them in location.... Damn, the dual squirter wont fit............... There is just no way that it can sit where it needs to, the actual reach between the nozzles isn't enough - good job I have the single...
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Next, find a nice location for the oil reservoir... Easy peasy... The bracket comes with the kit along with the cable ties.. Now these look like heavy duty ties, bit stiff, so into a cup of hot water to soften them up. Five minutes later - bracket is on.
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Next I give the swing-arm a good clean, using some methylated spirit to gently remove any oil & grease. I also carefully cut the single nozzle from square to slash angle. This then gets inserted into the delivery arm - quick dip in hot water makes this job easier. Now working from the rear sprocket, I start to trace the tubing. The tubing clips are self adhesive, and I start my route towards the reservoir..
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The delivery arm is constructed in such a way that it is easy to position the nozzle just where needed. A small cable clip supplies a little more security.
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Nearly there... Next attach the reservoir and fill with the special oil. - and now prime the system..
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Job done!
Tidy up, and admire. Tomorrow I will take her out so that I can calibrate the flow rate. All in all, everything is nicely hidden. I'll let you guys know how it performs and follow up reviews...
Ride safe.
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very nice mod there can hardly see it in the last picture tell us how you get on with it.
Kennon
My bike is due for it's second service (1000miles) in a couple of days. I have ridden it as per the manual.
Strange thing though, yesterday we were hit with a cold snap, in the morning the bike started first time, but the lights wouldn't turn on and the right indicator wouldn't work. I'll put this down to a fluke, as later in the day both operated as they should, perhaps some frozen moisture was the problem????
Other than that, the bike is running like a charm..
I cant wait to start using some of its potential.
Cheers buddy, I'm pretty pleased how it turned out :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kennon
hmm how odd maybe just a one time electrical gremlin but who knows, not liking this cold snap at all but will enjoy picking up my new bike this weekend, what do you use to keep warm I have winter gloves but now i'm thinking off investing in heated grips.
Kennon
heated grips are great, but the handle bar muffs are pretty good too IMO, and I like them for when there's rain, as they keep gloved hands dry even in pretty heavy downpours. It's also possible to find heated gloves, that use a small battery tucked away in a small portion of the glove near the wrist. There's quite a few offerings in China...
With my Tonda I have heated grips,,,, Barkbuster handguards,,, and Alpinestars heated gloves....my hands now stay reasonably warm at a total cost of wait for it £400 !!! yeah I know
Say, Bikerdoc, can you post an image or two of your pogies (aka bar muffs)?Quote:
Originally Posted by bikerdoc
thanks!
No problem, will get a couple of photos of one of the pairs I still have wrapped up sitting on the shelf, which I bought at a motorcycle warehouse type shop in the QianDaoHu township. The handlebar muffs are bigger than the standard ones found round these parts, and are devoid of the imitation animal hair and vinyl. I bought several pairs when I stumbled across them (along with a handful of other hard-to-come-by miscellaneous items). The pairs that I have used (had 3 pairs on different bikes through the wintry seasons) have lasted 2-3 seasons now, and I've just this past week taken a pair of my AN650K7 and they are in good condition. Have put them in the storage under the seat for the time being, until weather warms consistently then I'll wash them and retire them for another season, ready for next winter. Always good to have a pair stowed though and "on hand" for the occasional rain storm though.Quote:
Originally Posted by euphonius
Give me a day or two to get photos and upload them here.
:)
Here you go Euphonius, I am a little late in posting, but got there in the end. Hope the photos demonstrate what I think are better than the ordinary handlebar muffs commonly found round these parts and beyond. If one looks carefully at the other pair (vinyl with red graphic stripe and fake fur), the other pair are wider in the bend and overall roomier inside, meaning I can wear full gloves without too much cramping. The vinyl pair I need to wear thin gloves only. As previously posted, I bought several pairs of the larger "ANAN" muffs in QianDaoHu township at and just after the main intersection (traffic lights) proceeding thru town on the right (a couple doors beside the motorcycle shop). I have actually been buying all types of bits and bobs from that shop for 3-4 years and these days I can call them up, order what I want, put money into the bosses bank account (a woman) and she'll send them out. The ANAN pair in the pics I have used now for two seasons so they are a little grubby (dirt) but they wash well. I carry a pair on my bikes at all times, even in the summer for that occasional unexpected downpour. Great way to keep hands and gloves, dry (and warm in winter). I have a pair in NZ (OXFORD brand) but they are really big and bulky and even though made from better materials with more protective features, the OXFORD branded muffs are more cumbersome. I wished I could have had the ANAN pair when I was last back in NZ. Planning on taking a pair back with me next trip.Quote:
Originally Posted by euphonius
The only issue I see with any muffs is using them on a bike with hand guards. That would present a challenge. YMMV.
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Top pic shows inside comparison between ANAN and vinyl pair
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Note the altogether roomier area in the bend
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ANAN pair use a cord for tying, the vinyl use velcro
Thanks, Bikerdoc!
I was unable to find that Anan 安安 brand on Taobao, but found something that is nearly identical -- so much so that it's hard to which is a copy of which! This site has "men's" and "women's" styles, as well as anti-ultraviolet bar muffs for keeping your hands untanned in summer!
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Kayayers call these pogies.
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One word of caution: adding these bar muffs to a scooter or motorcycle adds a few cm to the overall width of the bars on both sides, which means you need to be more careful when passing other riders. I say this because I was knocked off my bicycle in Shanghai when a guy who had just installed new muffs on his scooter nicked my handlebar with his muff while overtaking me from behind. I was down in a millisecond, and knocked unconscious when my head hit the concrete curb. Fortunately the guy had a conscience and stopped to help.
cheers!
Handel bar muffs are the invention of the devil,and should be avoided at all costs,,, I would sooner ride a an old jawa two stroke then use them,,,frozen hands are nothing compared to the the abuse you WILL get using them...Mark my words "nothing good will come of them" and I bet you wear white socks" Please,please think how your friends and family will feel... yes think of the children,,,do,nt do it For THEM!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by euphonius
Haha. I live in China where people don't wear hats in -10c because they think it is unfashionable. I also use bar mits below +3c. I'll let these other people come to their own fashion derived 'sheeple' opinion of whose the idiot.Quote:
Handel bar muffs are the invention of the devil,and should be avoided at all costs,,, I would sooner ride a an old jawa two stroke then use them,,,frozen hands are nothing compared to the the abuse you WILL get using them...Mark my words "nothing good will come of them" and I bet you wear white socks" Please,please think how your friends and family will feel... yes think of the children,,,do,nt do it For THEM!!!!!!
Do you have mitts that fit over hand guards? I don't recall whether your RR had barkbusters, but I think not...Quote:
Originally Posted by ZMC888
cheers
No just bar mits, no barkbusters. Cheap 15 yuan bar mits. I hate them but they do the job. In minus 5-10 your chin, toes and hands get abused by the cold so badly, it'd the only way, except maybe snowmobile gloves or heated grips.
Idiot or no Idiot I know h/grips will not keep your hands warm,,,,,,,,,,,Quote:
Originally Posted by ZMC888
i've baught a set of heated grips but i've found occassionally putting my hands in the fairing gap where the rear two cylinders are to warm my hands up are perfect until i fit the grips.
Kennon
Come on Mr Hunter,,,Whats up with the bike,,,please tell me it running reliably and you have no probs!!!!! No excuses,,we need an update,,(or I do anyway) all the best
just seen this on the japanese Kawasaki website just reminded me of your 650NK
its a ER-4n sleeved down to 400cc to meet japanese license requirements.
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Kennon
Hi Mr Ghosthunter, I was interested to read your blog having recently got a CF myself, thanks for sharing. I was interested to see you notes on running in service intervals. As soon as I got my paperwork I noticed that the intervals in the service/warranty book didn't match those in the handbook. I queried it with my dealer and he advised going with the handbook intervals at 500 miles then 1000. I'm looking forward to forward to being able to run the bike out to 6000rpm from the 500 to 1000 mile service, I'm guessing that you can get a much better road speed at those RPMS?