Hi Guys!When i saw the information about Roketa to be the USA distributor i contact Asiawing and they told me thats they contact them but nothing final yet.They are still looking for a USA distributor .Hope they find some one soon,regards Carlos.
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Hi Guys!When i saw the information about Roketa to be the USA distributor i contact Asiawing and they told me thats they contact them but nothing final yet.They are still looking for a USA distributor .Hope they find some one soon,regards Carlos.
Hi there:clap:, we just ried the Asiawing 450 LD here in Kuching (Borneo). You can get some pictures http://picasaweb.google.com/olivier.rouit . This was just a short try as we had no gear at all! I hope to do a complete testing later in June when I get my gears from France.
This is forsure not a supercross bike, but the engine has a good power, for sure more than KTM LC4 I had few years ago but obviously less than a YZF450. The suspension is quite soft, which means comfortable for cross country off-road, which is exactly what I intend to do here with the hundreds of kms of logging trails around Kuching (see our 4x4 action on my picasa...).
According the mechanic the engine is an exact copy of a 450CRF (it is possible to use those parts on a Honda...)
Here you can get this bike for 3000euros and it looks more than enough to have some fun around! A good value for money. The bike we tried had already been used around 300 hours.
Good day orouit,Quote:
Originally Posted by orouit
I'm from KL..... I want to know if this bike can be registered to be onroad legal. Appreciated if you can ask the shop.... tq
I like the concept of the manufacturer, the niche product a resurrection of a 450cc Honda engine. But that’s not that old of a design the CRF450 is still in production and only came about in 2005?
So is Asiawing admirable or incorrigible?
Honda will not and is not addressing it, but they could and they could issue some pretty big warnings if they chose to. If its stolen intellectual property, how far and how deep is that rabbit hole?
What is the difference between a street vendor selling a bootleg DVD on the street and a distributor selling a product that is a copy that is based on a protected design? That’s assuming that Honda patents all its designs…it is difficult to convince ones self that they do not.
What if you buy the DVD? What if you buy a stolen car and get pulled over….do you still get to keep it?
If marketed and support correctly the product could sell, then what, somebody at Honda notices? Notices that their CRF450X was copied?
CRF450X
LX450
I took the plunge and ordered this bike. :icon10:
Went yesterday to the shop to collect it. They changed oil etc. and installed rear lights and handguards.
It's possible to get real plates on it, but not for foreigner and not in Beijing. So, I will have to take it 300km South to have it photographed and registered...
Rode it 40km home so cannot comment on the bike yet. It's my first real dirt bike so I guess it will take a while to get used to it, especially the lightness, it's 80kg lighter than KTM 990Adv!
Weekend is soon here and testing can begin! :riding:
:popcorn:Quote:
Originally Posted by tare
Can't wait to see some photos and your opinion of this bike, I think you're the first one in China to actually own one.
:confused1:Quote:
Originally Posted by tare
Cheers!
ChinaV
ooh i'm VERY interested in this thread now! please more!
Hi guys, im from argentine, here backfire bxf450r its this asiawing bike, i make the service and tech suport for the company that imports the bike here.
We are testing the bike for mx purposes and its amazing.
Here are some pics and videos:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riMtTIoxTcM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWhZscppEjc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9EhIP0jc7k
I hope you enjoy this like us!!
Cool nice thanks some good jumping. I am waiting for street legal version of that.
This is the model that are you waithing:Quote:
Originally Posted by moilami
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If u need more info about this bike tell me, coz i have pics of disembled parts and i can tell u the modified and changes that u need to make for have a good performance.
Mxonfire, that's very interesting stuff!
I've been pretty interested in this bike since it came out, but i was put off after reading a couple of bad chinese reviews.
Any chance you could a little more on your true opinion of this bike? Is it a good bike, or is it good 'for a china bike'? How long do you think it would last, would you trust it as a daily commuter?
I've heard that things like the fuel and coolant tubes all die after a few months, the kick start bends, the engine always cuts out etc... Is any of this true?
In china, i think this bike can be bought for a little over 20 000 RMB, that makes it an interesting option between the XTR250 and the JH600, but only if it's a good bike. Please, tell us more!
Cheers,
felix
Ok man, i'll keep you informed of the testing we're doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by felix
You are in china? you do not know the people of soomoto?
They too have this bike and a forum, but this in Chinese and I could not sign up to talk to them.
Hi,
Yes i am living in china these days.
I just had a look at the forum you mentioned. There are some good pictures, but overall not that much info on the bike.
Signing up to chinese forums is never an easy experience!
Looking forward to your thoughts!
Your SM version looks very good :thumbsup: I think it would be just great after changing the wheels to standard enduro wheels :deal:Quote:
Originally Posted by mxonfire
They import Asiawing to Finland, the price here is 5000€ for street legal registered version. KLX 250 costs 6000€ here (2009 model). DR or KLR are not imported anymore. KTMs costs 14 000€. So the Asiawing is still very cheap when compared, yet people think it is too expensive.Quote:
Originally Posted by felix
I have only found one opinion of Asiawing in Finland, one veteran driver and owner of Asiawing wrote that he is happy with the bike. For me taking 5000€ chances with a china bike was far too much, but now after my experience with the Skyteam I could pay that if I had to buy a *new* bike :eekers: It is just that if I would pay 5000€ of a bike then a lot of great options from Germany in second hand markets would become valid and I don't think Asiawing could compete with them.
In China things are different and I am 99% sure I would try Asiawing instead of JH600. But that is just me and my preferences to more enduro and less plastic.
Someone imports them into Australia.
Australian Dirt Bike Magazine did a test on one. They said it was good for the money(no bolts fell out while they tested it).Come along way from other Chinese dirt bikes still down on power and suspension compared to Japanese and Euro dirt bikes.
Make a great trail bike they said.
I'm looking for a new bike and I think this is it, I called the factory and they say I have to buy the bike this month if I want to be able to get plates for it and he did not know if you could get them after that. Also the bike cost a lot 26800rmb. I want one but the cost is kinda high.
We had a test unit from the supplier, but it was made clear that this is a prototype - huh? Yeah, when the bike gets imported from China the locals change some parts to suite the country terrain - here it is call MX450. My verdict - IT's AWESOME!!!! Ok now the bad part, when we unpacked the bike we had to go over each bolt and found some critical one's loose, we went ahead and replaced the lock nuts with proper nylon units - problem solved. I love the electric start, but we had to test the kick starter - it bent on the second kick!!! We ran to the local Honda dealer, and lo behold a '06 CRF450 kick starter fits perfectly. Out on the trails this machine blows holes in the expensive Japanese bikes, the other guys were really impressed so was I. :) Then we took it to the dreaded MX track - we upped the spring and rebound front and rear - it was amazing to say the least, but it could do with a little more power as we could not catch the 2009-2010 model Japanese bikes, but the older ones got to eat a lot of roost. I ordered one for myself and we will test the reliability over a longer period. The only major thing I would change out of the box is the tires - Chinese tires are BAD. I will post up again after I have gotten my bike.
Powerball,
Interesting revelations about the Asiawing 450. Can you provide some more details, such as where you are (I'm assuming somewhere outside China), what company/brand is doing the imports in your country and what the bike will look like once the move beyond the prototype/beta stage. Is the bike you ordered also a prototype, or something more settled? Street legal or MX only? Some pix would be most welcome.
thanks
They have been for sale in Australia I think for two years now.MX only.Quote:
Originally Posted by euphonius
Quote:
Originally Posted by mxonfire
Che! esta moto es la misma que lei por ahi que se va a empezar a vender dentro de poco como "Heicon TT 450 E" en la Argentina?
Saludos desde Uruguay! :thumbsup:
*Translation*
Hey! is this the bike that I read somewhere will begin selling recently as a "Heicon TT 450 E" in Argentina?
Greetings from Uruguay! :thumbsup:
We were not allowed to take any pics or videos.
But as soon as my bike arrives I will most certainly post it up. :D
Amazing how a single bike can have so many permutations around the world. It seems pretty obvious that these all can be sourced to a single manufacturer called Landun Motorcycles in Tai'an, Shandong.
I had a first-hand sighting in the wild yesterday, in the Jialing factory-approved service center in Beijing, a place called Zhengtu Motors. I snapped a couple of pictures.
As you can see, it has no branding.
http://euphonius.smugmug.com/Journal...74_bPKex-L.jpg
Just a simple badge reading LD450.
http://euphonius.smugmug.com/Journal...85_q8hfz-L.jpg
I wasn't able to get a very good angle for photographing, and the lighting in the shop was challenging due to the brilliant sunshine outside.
http://euphonius.smugmug.com/Journal...34_Ay583-L.jpg
But it did have this (broken) sticker appended to the frame.
http://euphonius.smugmug.com/Journal...28_Zf2NB-L.jpg
The parts of the label that can be read say:
Manufactured by Shandong Landun Motorcycles Ltd
Brand: Landai Brand
Engine Model Number: LD196
Engine designed output: 32kw
Production number: (blank) Date: (blank)
The guys in the shop said this bike could be legally registered and plated in Beijing.
Is this the same bike that MCM member tare, also in Beijing, said in this post that he had bought, but was having to register outside of Beijing? Wonder if this is the same shop?
Sorry, I forgot to ask the price!
ZMC888, you mentioned in previous posts that you spoke to the manufacturer in Shandong. Was it Landun that you spoke to? It seems Landun has only the Asiawing brand on the Web.
This Asiawing link gives technical specs for the bike in Chinese and English.
Not to be confused with this LANDUN company, which makes police equipment!
Umm I think this one is a rather bad copy of the Yamaha WR250/450 09 not a copy of Honda CRF 450XQuote:
Originally Posted by euphonius
Wow, he must have just got it. I was there last week and it wasn't in his shop.Quote:
Originally Posted by euphonius
I'm in the shop in the next day, or so, and I'll get the price & post it.
What the shop might have meant about registering & plating in Beijing is a 京B plate, which permits it to be ridden outside the 4th Ring Road. Many people regard outside the 4th Ring Road as "outside Beijing". It is the elusive (and valuable) 京A registration that people are after (allows riding inside the 4th Ring Road).
The JH600B (sidecar version) can also only be registered, currently, as a 京B.
Another interesting bike he has sitting there is the blue "125" Jialing, which is actually a 250 cc, but badged as a 125 for export purposes to Australia. Apparently there are import & tax advantages to mislabel a bike. Anyways, it is a nice little bike and only 7800 rmb.
Enjoy the sunny Beijing weather ... it is probably raining in Shanghai right now! :lol8:
Umm yeah that's not going to work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lao Jia Hou
Australian government departments are about as stupid as Chinese equivalents.
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Originally Posted by euphonius
This is what pisses me off about China Motos! it's like you never know who's the real manufacturer of anything! arghhhhhhhhhh!
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Originally Posted by bigdamo
I think it looks like an exact copy of the 2007 Honda CRF450 R.
Compare:
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I'm saying the LD450 is a copy of the Yamaha WR450F the exhaust ishttp://www.bikez.com/pictures/large....-%20Yamaha.jpg
Hello,
Yes, this is the same bike as I have. You get the stickers and riding clothes separately. Did not bother with the stickers and the clothes are too small.
The seat is different though and the front light cover as well.
I bought mine from the soomoto guys, somewhere by the South 4th Ring Road.
So far I've done ~300km, no issues except for a few lost screws.
Had to take the rear light part off as it's too heavy for jumps.
It's supposed to be a copy of Honda 450 CRF-X -05, you can replace almost all parts with Honda equivalents.