Just an FYI Dali Yunnan is running a crack down as well in xiguan and old city.
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Just an FYI Dali Yunnan is running a crack down as well in xiguan and old city.
Beijing TV (BTV) has reported that starting today (September 9, 2014) motorcycle enforcement will be strict.
Apparently, the last couple of weeks have been a "grace period" during which a public education campaign has been in effect. For example, over the holiday weekend that just ended, all of the electronic information boards on the Ring Roads have been constantly displaying "Motorcycles are forbidden on Ring Roads." Usually, these boards only display information about traffic jams, etc. It seems a little more serious than prior "crackdowns."
BTV also reports that traffic camera enforcement will be used on the Ring Roads, as well as for 京B plates within the 4th ring road.
Today (September 15):
In my neighborhood (Haidian, QingHe, YongTai neighborhood 海淀清河永泰园) police saturated the busiest intersection with at least a dozen cars and several flatbed trucks. They were stopping and checking motorcycles and electric tricycles (三轮车)and had loaded many vehicles onto the flatbeds, presumably impounding them. I thought it odd that many of the san lun che were mainstream delivery/courier vehicles (jd.com, SF, etc...). One flatbed had half a dozen R9 scooters loaded, all sharing one common feature: no number plates.
I wasn't brave enough to snap pictures, sorry!
The crackdown continues, so it seems. This affirms my endeavor to become fully licensed and legal before I dare ride on Beijing's streets. I think the consequences of a foreigner riding illiegally and being caught in that kind of a crackdown could be severe.
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This affirms my endeavor to become fully licensed and legal before I dare ride on Beijing's streets. I think the consequences of a foreigner riding illiegally and being caught in that kind of a crackdown could be severe.
Very wise .... i wish you well and hope you can get lincensed and legal soon
Here are some pics of the "out in force" at Shuangjing, including a foreigner getting caught in the first pic:
http://www.motorfans.com.cn/bbs/atta...&checkid=d4697
http://www.motorfans.com.cn/bbs/atta...&checkid=cbdf5
http://www.motorfans.com.cn/bbs/atta...&checkid=c0ac5
Article: http://www.motorfans.com.cn/bbs/t_17900747_1.htm
This happens in every city, even in my 3rd tier backwater. Of course usually only on one of the busiest intersections about once a month or so.
As ZMC888 notes above, these crackdowns generally happen periodically. It's a cyclical phenomena... after a few weeks, the powers that be generally revert back to concentrating on other activities and the status quo oft' returns... happy days.
Same phenomena takes place here from time to time too.
Always good to know or be kept in the loop. However is it just me or do these crack downs seemingly occur around when the major holidays come round?
IMO better policing all round, and especially of eBikes would go a long way as would tougher requirements on said eBikes and the riders of the same.
Yup, a semi-annual event, but best to let others know when it is "on" ... just in case one misses the Chinese language notifications. Best to be informed about what may lay around the next corner. Arrest, detention and perhaps deportation can make for a very bad day.
In Beijing, over the years, the campaigns have been plentiful, but IMHO they seem to be reaching a stricter application each year. I've heard the same from native Beijing riders. There was a recent public survey in Beijing, where >80% of respondents claimed 2 & 3 wheeled vehicles were the cause of many traffic woes. Despite the questionable validity, it demonstrates an overwhelming negative public attitude towards bikes.
Tangentially, I have noticed that many of the credible bike shops have greatly reduced the number of illegal bikes they deal in. I'm unsure if that is due to market forces, or the occasional police visit.
The idiots who run around without plates, fake plates, no insurance, no helmets, etc etc etc, really fuck it up for everyone else. Kinda like the "self-entitled" foreigners who think an anything-goes attitude is ok with a white face. Yeah, I've no time for these jokers, and kinda wish they'd all be tossed.
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IMO better policing all round, and especially of eBikes would go a long way as would tougher requirements on said eBikes and the riders of the same.
+ 1 :clap:
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The idiots who run around without plates, fake plates, no insurance, no helmets, etc etc etc, really fuck it up for everyone else. Kinda like the "self-entitled" foreigners who think an anything-goes attitude is ok with a white face. Yeah, I've no time for these jokers, and kinda wish they'd all be tossed.
+2 :clap::clap:
With all this said ,encouragement and advise to help the none legal "foreigners" riders is the way to go.
For the ones who won't listen to good advise so be it , but don't seek pity when the shit hits the fan
well not from me ???
totally agree.
Enforcing of the no talking on the cell phone whilst driving would greatly make the traffic better.
Common sense, and sense of community would be amazing, but we can't have everything. This will slowly come. But cracking down on motorbikes is ridiculous especially when as you say, there are so many other problems.
When will those stupid diandong che's be cracked down on? i dno't think ive ever once seen them obeying traffic laws..
Most of the problems are these campaigns take place because of the number of stolen bikes. This is why when pulled over and with valid documentation the majority of the time police just ask about my bike or chat and let me go.. In Dali they ask where I live and when I tell them the neighbourhood.... They don't even look at my valid paper work.
Last week west of Beijing on the roads round 慕田峪长城 Mutianyu , we saw a check point that seem'd to be checking cars and bikes....it was in the mountains. On the way back two sport bikes were pulled and a little distance was a tow truck.....didn't see the event or the results.
I guess that was all in relation to that coming APEC meeting at YanQi lake.
For that time they even start to regulate the city traffic as one day odd another day even numbers.
I wouldn't be surprised to hear about a total grounding of all motorcycles during this period.
They are simply too paranoid.
On a related note; I read on a Ch!nese MC forum that the Hefei CBD MC ban trial (Jul-Sept) was a success and is now a permanent ban - so another city (Hefei) becomes another 'dry' city with a complete MC ban. In the post I read that any rider caught on a MC within the banned area will be subject to CNY200 fine and 12 points! :eek2: Meanwhile any rider caught on a MC without a MC DL (D or E class) will be subject to a fine, bike confiscation and mandatory 15 day detention.