Reliability of your China Moto

Incidentally the Kawasaki D-Tracker 150 (KLX150) is legally available within PRC, but not so the D-Tracker 250 (KLX250).

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Originally Posted by bikerdoc

Incidentally the Kawasaki D-Tracker 150 (KLX150) is legally available within PRC, but not so the D-Tracker 250 (KLX250).

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The KLX250 would do very well here I think. Although, I rarely see anyone riding off-road/motards here in Shanghai. Maybe if I spent more time on the outer ring I would, but normally in the downtown it's all big kawasaki's or ducatti's etc

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Originally Posted by bikerdoc

There's a possibility given time that the Honda CB500X could be available through official local Honda distribution agent though it defies logic that out of the three CB500 (CBR500R, CB500F, CB500X) models, the 'X' model is the one left out of the equation - but as most of us realise this place is a LFZ.

To my mind the aforementioned CB500X is the most ideally suited of all three Honda CB500 models to the local conditions speaking from the experience of having ridden the model extensively for nearly two months in Thailand early 2014.

I doubt that BMW Motorrad have anything to do with blocking access to the CB500X as I cannot see that they would think the 'X' model is a direct competitor to any BMW model - to which I'd agree. The Honda CB500X rides & handles nothing like a G650GS, F700GS nor a F800GS, all three models having real adventure characteristics of which the CB500X marginally shares. That's not to say that the CB500X isn't a worthy ride or isn't up to the task as it seems an ideal platform for riding this wasteland because it is - but a true adventurer or dual-sport it is not.

YMMV

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Sorry, maybe I miswrote my earlier post. I have no suspicion of BMW blocking Honda.

More like those Thai made bike prices are just high enough and the oddball model selections omitting bikes that should be hugely popular for import seem to be too strange to make sense, at least to me. There must be something going on behind the scenes, because what seems to be going on would be exactly what the likes of Zongshen, Shineray, Loncin and Jialing would want. Just keep those Japanese bikes out of reach, keep the Chinese bikes a temptation, by artificially keeping the prices sweet, keep those 250-400cc dual sport models out where possible. Make sure any other imported bike is 100% to 50% more expensive than a Chinese similar competitor. Those guys probably lose sleep over 'what if people could but a CB500X for 50,000 RMB, or a CRF250 for 30,000, shit we'd lose all our market share'.

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Originally Posted by ZMC888

Sorry, maybe I miswrote my earlier post. I have no suspicion of BMW blocking Honda.

More like those Thai made bike prices are just high enough and the oddball model selections omitting bikes that should be hugely popular for import seem to be too strange to make sense, at least to me. There must be something going on behind the scenes, because what seems to be going on would be exactly what the likes of Zongshen, Shineray, Loncin and Jialing would want. Just keep those Japanese bikes out of reach, keep the Chinese bikes a temptation, by artificially keeping the prices sweet, keep those 250-400cc dual sport models out where possible. Make sure any other imported bike is 100% to 50% more expensive than a Chinese similar competitor. Those guys probably lose sleep over 'what if people could but a CB500X for 50,000 RMB, or a CRF250 for 30,000, shit we'd lose all our market share'.

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China export shit loads of "shit " to Thailand and Thailand would love to export more to China I am sure behind the scenes the Thail government is saying to China " come on guys be fair let our bikes in!" IMO things will start to happen this year ! Loads of new roads bridges are being constructed in the north of Thailand to connect Thailand/ Loas / China I for one is holding back and waiting to see how this develops before I look at a new bike . One things is guaranteed I will not buy a Chinese made bike again regardless of how good reviews are posted on MCM . Took me 4 years to lean you "can't polish a turd "
So to all you guys with Chinese bike and I still have 2 !! turds left I wish you luck and good polishing lol

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Originally Posted by prince666

China export shit loads of "shit " to Thailand and Thailand would love to export more to China I am sure behind the scenes the Thail government is saying to China " come on guys be fair let our bikes in!" IMO things will start to happen this year ! Loads of new roads bridges are being constructed in the north of Thailand to connect Thailand/ Loas / China I for one is holding back and waiting to see how this develops before I look at a new bike . One things is guaranteed I will not buy a Chinese made bike again regardless of how good reviews are posted on MCM . Took me 4 years to lean you "can't polish a turd "
So to all you guys with Chinese bike and I still have 2 !! turds left I wish you luck and good polishing lol

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We can always wait and see.

I hope this happens :icon10:

Is it possible to register these CQR crap? Then i would buy one of this, register it, buy a real CRF, trash the CQR and "align" the CRF numbers ......

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Originally Posted by ShuBen

Is it possible to register these CQR crap? Then i would buy one of this, register it, buy a real CRF, trash the CQR and "align" the CRF numbers ......

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That's you're call however, that is !llegal. Accordingly there is a guy in bejing that registers them, although. A few sellers said they can not plate them, but one guy in Beijing said he could. He's probably going down a similar route as what you're thinking maybe you could contact him? He's on taobao, only guy selling the CRF in Beijing. If you need I'll try find his number for you.

Josh,

If you could send me his number or TaoBao Link by PM would be absolutely great!!!
Thanks in advance.

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Originally Posted by ShuBen

Josh,

If you could send me his number or TaoBao Link by PM would be absolutely great!!!
Thanks in advance.

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TS-Sports Taobao seller in BJ
越野小将化身街头小子，CRF250M主要以越野车版本的CRF250L为基础，将其配备更动为搭配上17 寸道路胎的滑胎车版本，这样的改变让CRF250M拥有更强烈的街头动感，另外，引擎也因为搭配honda 独家的PGM-FI喷射供油系统，以及滚针摇臂的引擎设计，降低活塞作动产生的摩擦力，让引擎无论是低速 中速 还是高速的表现都十分顺畅，还能够兼顾油耗，实在是台不可多得的滑胎车。超长的前叉行程是专为越野赛事而生 ，轻量化的引擎能改变全车重心，让车辆易于操控。联系电话：13801385307

Thanks. Lets see what we can make out of this information. I will check the place and try to get a deal there.
Keep u updated

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Originally Posted by ShuBen

Thanks. Lets see what we can make out of this information. I will check the place and try to get a deal there.
Keep u updated

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Sorry for not getting back to you sooner Ben.

I've just been to a shop that has the CRF250. He had one there and was offering a order service from Thailand. The bikes take 5-10 days to come.

Everything was covered and he said foreigners can legally apply for the Shanghai plate for this bike. He said you can apply for it yourself or he can help you to do it, it's your call. I asked about insurance, he said he didn't know about the insurance for this bike but he can find out :rolleyes1:

Anyway, with a Shanghai Plate it sets the bike into much bigger price but hey ho if he can get the plate in my name with all the correct frame numbers etc then I am set on getting one.

I take my test next month, so I'll see what happens when I've got my license.

Josh

so what was the price of that bike? without the plate of course

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Originally Posted by modron

so what was the price of that bike? without the plate of course

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38,000

same price as in Europe (Poland at least)

Not bad

Thought I would pipe in here , my 2015 CFMoto 650nk has just clocked 8.5k in 4 months , 2 services done and it has not missed a beat , just keeps going stronger every day , I do about 80km a day to and from work , 50/50 rural and city riding .
The only thing that has happened is the Tacho has 'Frosted ?' on the inside of the glass , its being replaced as I type this , no questions asked , and in a week of me reporting it to the bike shop . This in no way affects the bikes perfofmance but it looks terrible ! .

I have said this before us CFMoto owners here in Perth Australia seem to get very good after sales service , I cant be happier with mine .

Oh yes I payed $5999 aud , the last one at this very special price sold here , free CFMoto jacket , gloves and helmet

Brian.