Which software do you use?Quote:
Originally Posted by BigPhil
I've got a 3 pin to 16 pin OBDII cable and no luck reading anything.
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Which software do you use?Quote:
Originally Posted by BigPhil
I've got a 3 pin to 16 pin OBDII cable and no luck reading anything.
No Idea never done it, just know it is Fiat connector and I suppose fiat software.Quote:
Originally Posted by jose1984
@Dreamwalker @jose1984 Have you both resolved your ECu issues?
I've got the dreaded 47/48 FI error codes and the side stand engine cut off has just stopped working too. Was looking to change the O2 sensors and see if that resolved it but after reading thsi forum it's looking likely to be the ECU.
I had seen this ECU, but it looks to be a different part number to mine so unsure, my ECU has "432407300" printed on it and underneath is B 650 05/12
https://cqjns.en.alibaba.com/product...74000_ECU.html
That is ECU fault, when you fit the new one clean the sidestand switch then after re-fitting coat in loads of grease to prevent water getting in, water shorts the connection to ground which blows the ECU, the sidestand switch connection are from 2 connections on the ECU on the ECU comes from one and goes back in to the other, the one with the voltage on it gets shorted to ground blowing the ECU.Quote:
Originally Posted by qwerty1234
Thanks @BigPhil. I'll order an ECU and see what happens. I was more concerned with the Throttle Position Sensor (TPS) once the ECU is installed. The Alibaba ECU seller says "I want to emphasize again: To replace the ECU, whether it is the original or adjustment one, CF original inspection computer is required to calibrate the throttle position sensor (TPS). Remember to use the CF original inspection computer! ! ! !" So I think I'll need a trip to a CF Moto dealer once I have the ECU so they can connect their computers to it.
But I'll definately look into protecting the side-stand switch. I was caught in the rain a few weeks ago and water got in somewhere causing the high beam indicator to come on and off. So might need a bit more checking for any other exposed wires/connectors.
I have had that, water gets in the light switch on the handlebars, I wrap a poly bag around it when it is raining but that will not blow ECU but water in side stand switch will, if ordering a a Ducati 03 ECU and your throttle bodies do not have the hole in the butterfly valve, you will need to update the throttle bodies as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by qwerty1234
Thanks @BigPhil. Would you have any links to what I'm looking for with the hole in the butterfly valve. I'll have a look later today to see what's in there. I'm thinking, if I don't have the hole, then maybe it's worth getting the Bosch ECU and the newer throttle body. Or even doing that anyway and prevent some of these issues repeating. I'm just unsure how big a can of worms I'd be opening by doing this!
Answering my own query. With and without hole butterfly assembly below:Quote:
Originally Posted by qwerty1234
Attachment 20386
, the ones with th hole are what you want, you would have to change the whole harness to use the Bosh oneQuote:
Originally Posted by qwerty1234
Thanks @BigPhil. After I sent my post I thought, of course I can't just switch the ECU to a different brand ECU. Although a bit fiddly, I got to the throttle body and I'm in luck with the one with a hole in.
Although quite a few poorly protected wires on the loom, so I can see why water ingress can cause a few faults!
Now to find a garage that can calibrate the TPS once the ECU arrives...
I have read somewhere that the newer adjustable one does not need it, check ignition switch wiring the plastic cover on mine was all broken up letting in water my switch went faulty so I stripped it down and it had been arching cleaned up the contacts greased with silicone grease and reassembled it is fine now all harnesses parts with a plastic sleeve over the wires, wires from lights, wires down to side stand switch all have this cheap plastic sleeve which has craked leaving exposed wires, I have use insulation tape over the existing sleeve.Quote:
Originally Posted by qwerty1234
Thanks for your comments Phil, the new adjusted ECU turned up and I've fitted it. It's throwing a TPS Low error (error code 1) so will put the old one back on as to not break the something and ride over to a CFMoto Dealer/garage to get their computer on it to get it calibrated.
In the mean time, I followed your guidance and taped/greased up and risky wires. Fingers crossed I can get the new ECU running and get some rides in before winter!
, the manual shows how to calibrate the TPS, there are youtube videos as well on calibrating the TPS with a meter, but alternatively take it to a CFMOTO dealer, they plug in their tester and on menu item is Calibrate TPS, they simply select the menu item and it calibrates the ECU automatically no adjusting the TPSQuote:
Originally Posted by qwerty1234
I watched a few youtube videos and then stumbled on the below Dealer guide to calibrate the TPS and it seemed a much simpler option. Shame you can't buy the diagnostic tool anymore, at $396 AUD + GST (around £230) it doesn't sound like too bad an investment, as I imagine the Dealer will charge a reasonable amount to calibrate the TPS...Quote:
Originally Posted by BigPhil
https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/re...rationpdf-mojo
this is how to do it with a multimeter and is shown in workshop manual, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMtHxWypWkYQuote:
Originally Posted by qwerty1234
Why not join my WK650TR/CFMOTO 650 Owners facebook groupQuote:
Originally Posted by BigPhil
Sure thing, what am I search on FB to find it? Or send me a link in a PM?Quote:
Originally Posted by BigPhil
Quote:
Originally Posted by qwerty1234
Hi,
apologies for the delay getting back to you. I went around a different way, it's only my way of doing things so I can't advise it; basically I bypassed the side stand and clutch switch. and I found a weird way to resolve the issue when it dies to start with but you won't believe it until I do a video!!
I do have a spare ECU, managed to get it on eBay and will keep it as spare for a rainy day.
Sounds interesting... Look forward to the video! :popcorn:Quote:
Originally Posted by jose1984
Let me know your thoughts:Quote:
Originally Posted by bikerdoc
https://youtu.be/xfbzcfFkGYg
this is a link to a bike stopping not to fixing the errorsQuote:
Originally Posted by jose1984
Phil what happens is the following:Quote:
Originally Posted by BigPhil
- before starting the bike it has a couple of errors
- if you start it normally after a few seconds it dies and shows error codes
- however if after starting it, I hit the kill switch on and off, it stays running without any error codes
Hope that makes sense!!
What are the codes you are getting, we did not have any problems starting or running, we had 47 and 48 codes which appeared after running a few minutes, we also had side stand not cutting engine when in gear but lap worked OK, there is an output from the ECU goes trough a second pole of the switch and back in to the ECU, if water gets in the switch or cable connector, it shorts the ECU blowing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by jose1984
Hi guys,
sorry for the late reply. The aftermarket ecu works fine. Did on mine already 7000 km before the end of autumn. My adjusted has a bit higher fuel consumption - 4.5 to 5.5 l /before 3.8 - 4.8/.
The ECU solved everything. I had to change also the ingnition coils, those were damaged. Their malfunction caused unstable idling etc. ehrn ythey got hot.
So far I have noticed:
very stable idling
smoother acceleration and also smoother run between 2000 - 3000 RPM
when idling or moving in congested cities in summer, the engine gets hot and shows 5 squares temperature, with the old ecu it showed only 4, but with the old one the idling became unstabel when hot always. New ecu even when 5 squares hot idles stable.
I am very happy with this aftermarket ecu. My friends ordered 2 standard versions. we already got them and will test them next season. I do believe, tha t ecu and coils have to be changed both at least. in case of other issues after changing these 2 items, look after injectors, fuel pump, ...and other EFI parts.
How did you calibrate the TPSQuote:
Originally Posted by dreamwalker
I took the bike to the CFMOTO local dealer and they used their OBD for CF bikes to calibrate TPS. I was able to drive it without any issue with the FI blnking the error code for TPS calibration.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigPhil
I also tried to move the TPS senzor after the calibration and I have realised, ,that after you store the calibration to ECU, you can easily switch old TPS and new one and adjust it manually to stop FI indication. Small disproportion is not that much issue, as it just handles the fuel-air mixture ratioo based on the throttle position of flaps - how much they are opened. But if it would be too much, you could have not smooth ride.