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I was 60 years old back in March and I was passing Yantia and decided to pop into the local traffic police office to confirm I needed to take a medical this year or next year ? and it was then the police office's inforumed me that the age had been incressed to 71 years old .
But I still need to find out to what age can one still ride a motorbike because it was my understanding that at the age of 70 years old one could not ride a motorbike in China :confused1:
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Originally Posted by prince666
Every place I have read about 70 years old says you can't drive anymore.
Well I am nearly finished with the entire process of getting a D license in Beijing. If anybody wants a detailed rundown of EXACTLY what a foreigner needs to do these days just let me know and I can spill it all here. I am doing it all by the book and completed the theory test and everything in Chinese. Actually all I have left is the last (2nd) computer test, which will be no problem. I just finished the ridiculous driving classes and riding test as Laoshan last week. I have to wait another week until I am allowed to schedule my last computer test. All the other classmates already got their licenses yesterday. :( I have to say the entire process has been pretty irritating and the method for scheduling everything wastes a lot of time but I guess as foreigners all we can do is be patient.........
^ as it applies in Beijing at this moment in time. Because change is a constant in China. Also China is made up of multiple mini kingdo0ms complete with a differing set of rules or interpretation of the rules. What applies in one jurisdiction may or may not apply in another jurisdiction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martino
Congratulations ...
Hi Martino
Good job and well done in the end it's all worth it.
Yes China regulations are always changing, thus why I said "these days" in my post. I don't know if it's easier or harder in other areas. Geez I hope not harder. In Beijing it's a pain in the arse, but not too bad if your Chinese level is decent. Just a lot of wasting time waiting for test scheduling mainly. Never understood why they still allow foreigners to take the theory test for cars in foreign languages but motorcycle tests are Chinese only.
Hmm, interesting that you can't take the motorcycle theory test in other languages. Probably its for the same reason that motorcycles regulations are generally designed to prohibit or discourage motorcycle use. They just see no reason to make something easier if they are really trying to discourage it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martino
Of course you are talking about taking the MC training and licence from scratch. As for most of us foreign motorcyclists who come here with a valid MC driver license from our home country, Beijing is probably one of the easiest places to do it and of course we can write the test in our choice of a dozen or so foreign languages. In fact it is because of the Beijing process being so well documented here, and the fact that Beijing has a whole wing of their motor vehicle office dedicated to foreigners that I went though the "trouble" of getting my license in Beijing (which required paying for a hotel room for 10 days to "prove" residency in Beijing).
I actually live just across the Beijing border in Hebei province but I didn't know where to turn to get information on the process in Hebei province and I imagined repeatedly getting the run-around, and obstacles to writing the test in English. For example, After I did get my license, and when I was back in the local village police station to re-register after renewing my visa, I asked them where I would go to get my driver license registered to my address in this jurisdiction. Their answer was that there is no need to change the address as my drivers license is perfectly valid as it is - I can drive any where in China with that license. Well, I tried. I could have tried harder but clearly it wasn't going to be a straightforward process to legally change my address on the drivers license. I can't even get the temporary residence permit from them that I would need to bring in to the Motor vehicle office. We tried that twice already and the village police station where I am actually registered says I have to go into the county seat police office for the temporary residence permit. But the county seat police office says we can only do it at the village office where we are registered.
Just another example of the LFZ. Although I don't believe China is really "logic free". It seems to many of us to be devoid of logic but I am sure it is very logical - but based on assumptions that we are not familiar with.
Ya I started from scratch. I considered getting my license in my home country and bringing that over but I figured I'd have to take the computer test in Chinese anyway and that would be the hardest part so I just started from scratch here.
Someone mentioned an English motorcycle test at the Shanghai licensing bureau. Can anyone confirm they have English and also the address of this place? I can speak Chinese well but never studied reading or writing the characters,so the Chinese test is out of the question for me.
Does anyone have a link to a downloadable version of the motorcycle questions? Chinese would be fine, I'm looking for something I can ideally throw at Google translate or print and throw at some ocr software.
There is a pdf of a previous year's questions out there on the Internet. In English, about 1300 questions. It's relatively easy to find (probably links to it in one of the earlier pages of this thread) . If you want, I can upload it somewhere and post the link. But that would have to wait till I get to. My computer. I'm on my mobile now. Note thatvthe current version of the test is mostly the same as this banking questions, but there are some differences. I never had the current questions in a downloadable form. But the old question bank was extremely useful to study. That and the iPhone app. The iPhone app is based on the new version of the test and it was the most useful resource I had to pass the test.
Thanks, I was worried that since I was testing for C1D there were going to be motorcycle questions on the test but there weren't. Got a 95 on Wed and the new DL showed up in the mail today (two days later).Quote:
Originally Posted by billeuze
I studied for the test using the Android Chinese Driver License Test Pro app. Its not as nice as the iOS app but still a huge help.
I've updated the wiki I started to reflect what I experienced but TIC and YMMV. http://chinamoto.wikia.com/wiki/Chin...er%27s_License
Ed
Congrats. So, u have a bike already?
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Congratulations. for passing the test and also for getting the android app to work for you - it kept giving me the wrong answers, I couldn't figure it out.
Nope, not yet, was waiting till I succeeded at getting the license first.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShuBen
I'm looking at getting a joint-venture in the 125-250cc range.
This will be my first bike anywhere so I want something small enough to safely learn but big enough to take camping and traveling distance at high way speed if needed and hopefully help position myself to step up to a Suzuki DL650 back in the US one day. I know some guys went to 4 continents on YBR125.
I want something reliable = joint-venture
I'm leaning towards second hand to save money.
Based on what I've read a YBR250 (YS250) would be ideal. If I can't find a good price on that then I will probably land on a Honda 150 or maybe a YBR125G.
Open to suggestions.
Ed
has anyone converted there home country license to chinese when you have a car and motorcycle license?
im in shanghai and going through the process but running into that the motorcycle test is in chinese only!!!
is there any other options that can do?
Don't sound correct to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceart
If you have a Car and motorbike licences from your home country then you should be abel to take the test in China other then Chinese.
Something sounds a miss IMO.
ive gone to the place on hami lu in shanghai, and applied for a c1d license but they tell you know you have to do 2 tests one for motorcycle and one for chinese
the motorcycle test is 50 questions and is now only in Chinese
the car test is 100 questions and is available in english and Chinese
and you have to do the motorcycle test first
Time to learn Chinese then .
Still don't stack up in my book .
Good luck
Keep us all updated.
Take th test in a small city. Somewhere you know someone use their address. If you have foreign moto license it should be easy no driving required just take the computer testQuote:
Originally Posted by Iceart
once you pass the test you are at their mercy until they tell you when you can actually get the license in your hand
again small cities are usually faster and less hassle
What bullshit, They will add free the Bike license when doing the whole process - I bet someone decided to just give you MAFFAN.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceart
If you got a full car and bike license back home you can do C1D which is the highest level. Unless your country has separate 3 wheeler license that is.
This is translated from the official website from the traffic management
Section II motor vehicle driver
Article 19 Driving a motor vehicle shall obtain a motor vehicle driving
license according to law.
Apply for a motor vehicle driver's license, should be in line with the
provisions of the State Council public security departments driving permit
conditions; after passing the examination, the public security organs traffic
management department issued to the corresponding category of motor vehicle
driver's license.
Holders of foreign motor vehicle driver's license, in line with the
provisions of the State Council public security departments driving permit
conditions, the public security organs of the traffic management department
assessment qualified, can be issued to China's motor vehicle driver's
license.
Here is the Chinese
第二节 机动车驾驶人
第十九条 驾驶机动车，应当依法取得机动车驾驶证。
申请机动车驾驶证，应当符合国务院公安部门规定的驾驶许可条件；经考试合格
后，由公安机关交通管理部门发给相应类别的机动车驾驶证。
持有境外机动车驾驶证的人，符合国务院公安部门规定的驾驶许可条件，经公安机
关交通管理部门考核合格的，可以发给中国的机动车驾驶证。
驾驶人应当按照驾驶证载明的准驾车型驾驶机动车；驾驶机动车时，应当随身携带
机动车驾驶证。
You will be issued with an equal license. Hiow ever it is not directly stated that you MUST or MUST only do Car etc.
I would go back ask them for the ACTUAL law on this.
Worst case comer to Chengdu I can do with you, for a fee
Hi - my name is Richard and I just found this forum which is great so thanks everyone. I am basically a 50 something guy who has been in Shanghai a number of years and achieved zero language skills. Last year I woke up one morning with the idea of riding a motorbike around Tibet. The bad news is that I have never ridden a motorbike before in my life so naturally I tried to find out how to do so in Shanghai. I eventually came to realise that there is no way for a foreigner to LEARN how to ride and get a licence in Shanghai (probably the whole of China). So therefore I went back to the UK a couple of times and took my CBT, Theory, Mod1 and Mod 2 certificates to get a 'Full Bike Licence' ( I think it's known as a category A) which is now nicely imprinted and part of my car licence. I then thought I could come back to Shanghai and transfer the licence over. So after much to-ing and fro-ing and calling the licence/test center in Hami Road (through 3 different friends) I have been 'categorically informed that the only way to get a bike licence is to transfer my current UK licence by taking the written exam in Chinese. Then I came across the MyChinaMoto forum and found the post by NZBrakelathes regarding the fact that I should be able to take a C1D test in English and get the full licence for car and bike transferred over. I thus printed out the Chinese and English info supplied and went back to the Hami Lu center along with 2 friends (fluent Chinese speakers) . I was (not so politely) informed that yes indeed there is such a thing as a C1D licence but this is in fact 2 TESTS THAT YOU MUST TAKE (ha ha ) - the 1st test is the written bike test in Chinese and the second test is the written car test in English !! Despite numerous 'discussions' on this issue the person at the counter and then her 'supervisor' refused to budge on this requirement and thus I am now definitely stuck in terms of getting a licence ! So it seems that my only 2 options are to either learn Chinese very fast or 'move' somewhere that has the test in English so I can take it there. I have a good friend from Wenzhou who has told me that they have the test in English in Wenzhou so I am looking at how I can get my temporary residence there in order to take the test. All things failing that I will be more than willing to come to Chengdu and visit NZBrakelathes ( yep - seriously) in order to get this ruddy licence. Of course if there are any other suggestions from other members I would love to hear it as this is a project having been almost 1 year and I don't want to give up ! Many thanks and regards - Richard
Hi Richard.
And welcome to MCM
From the sound of things you are haveing a hard time trying to get a legal Chinese C1E or C1D.
Just visit NZBrakelathes he can sort it out.
But not such thing as a free lunch.
Richard, welcome. It might be difficult but stick on it. It will be worth all efforts.Quote:
Originally Posted by prince666
Here in Beijing you need to do on test only and that is in English possible.
I didn't hear anything that it has changed to two tests.
We have also licence agents here that handle everything for you and the fee is fair.
If you want a Beijing agent contact send me a PM.
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Hi ShuBen and Prince666 - thanks very much for your replies - Yeah in regards to the C1D - Not sure if it really does exist as 2 tests but given that is exactly the reply 'Icecart' got (mentioned in previous post) then I don't see any other option in Shanghai. My personal opinion is that the Shanghai authorities simply don't want to hand out any new licences for bikes - full stop. Judging from the attitude of the staff at the center in Hami Lu this would make sense. Everytime we tried to talk to someone they simply got out of the chair and walked off to the other end of the counters to pretend to be busy and not answer any questions. They even treid to tell me that there has NEVER been ANY test in English ! This was coming from the supervisor in the center. Oh well. So I will follow up on my friend in Wenzhou and keep this forum informed as and when. I have booked a ticket for 5th February which is basically the earliest I can get there. If that fails then I will gladly try in Beijing or Chengdu. Thanks for the info on Beijing ShuBen - much appreciated - if I choose to do that way I hope I can ask you for some contact details for an agent there. Thanks again :)
Why would people who love to ride motorbikes want to live in SH.
Sounds like you are correct No new Chinese DL for anyone.
Chin up Richard keep trying is the best way.
Both the 2 member who can help are good guys and what to see you get a Chinese DL.
I need to get a IDP for a trip to OZ this year, but because I can't get an IDP in China.
I sorted out my Thail motorbike and car driving license in Thailand in 1 day using my Chinese DL.
It's just how some country's are.
Good luck .
If you think getting your license is hard, wait until they crush your dreams about riding in Tibet. That's not going to happen without spending a lot of money.
As ChinaV says it's very hard to ride TIBET now.
It's my understanding as of last year, western people can't travel by car/Bike from China into Tibet now.
And you have to fly or go by train then rent a bike with a tour company and have all the correct paperwork to ride TIBET.
The border is still open to western travellers coming from Nepal.
It will be interesting to find out what information you come up with.
One shitty update, I had a guy that applied for his bike only license but due to his visa only being to live and work in Shanghai was turned away.
As far as converting it, the same rule may or may not apply - who knows till someone tries.
THERE IS NO motorcycle ENGLISH test - I was smart and asked for something special and luckily was allowed to do it thus far. Trust me this wasn;'t easy it took my wife and I around 50 hours to manage to get 5 places and no guarantee of more etc etc etc
Cluster Fark of rules and restrictions - if you have never lived here you CAN'T understand how simple things become so FARKING complex.