Just watch that seam between seat and tank and man bits. Gte some carbon fibre underwear and don't brake too hard.
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Just watch that seam between seat and tank and man bits. Gte some carbon fibre underwear and don't brake too hard.
Nice bike! A guy came riding with us last Fall, in Beijing, on one of these - it generated a lot of admiring comments - people like it.
By the way, you are able to register this new bike, post-March 1, 2011? I am assuming, therefore, it meets the C-3 emissions?
I'm very much looking forward to seeing your impressions of this bike. I'm probably going to break down and buy one of these soon myself. Question though, the DD250G I saw a couple of years ago was monoshock, and the one in your pic has dual external reservoir shocks. Do you remember what the bike you ordered had?Quote:
Originally Posted by dewsnap
Monoshock:
http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/s.../Raptor250.jpg
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Sorry, my mistake. That's a completely different bike altogether. DD250G vs. DD250G-2N. I guess it's no longer being made by Regal Raptor? At least it's not available at the shop on Pubei Lu. :confused1:
I rather liked the looks of it. Further, I don't think it has the same restrictions mounted in the exhaust pipes! Wondering about the weight and build quality compared between the 2 bikes.
congrats on getting new bike, is the model fuel injected?
Appreciate all that fellas. Thanks.
Yeah, the bike i ordered (DD250G-2N) is EFI and meets the Euro3 standard.
As far as i know Nuhaus, all of these bikes come with dual shocks at the back. The bike you posted in that picture isn't the DD250G-2N, it's the SPT300. The tank is a lot bigger and the bike is much heavier than the 250. I'm not sure if it can be registered but i see more of those than i do the 250 so i'd guess it can.
I'm a little confused though because i keep seeing that bike with DD250G stickers on when it's a a different bike altogether. Don't know what's going on there.
Yeh, it looks like the SPT 300 from the Regal Raptor web site doesn't it? I don't think that web site has been updated for a few years though. The bike I posted was at a shop in another province that I visited a while back. A friend and I were thinking of getting them at the time. I'm pretty sure I have seen these DD250G bikes at the Pubei Lu shop and was hoping that's what they were selling now. Regardless, hoping to hear a report from you on your new RR. Enjoy:thumbsup:
Congrats on the bike, let me know how it runs. How much was the bike from the factory? (before local registration and taxes).
The bike was listed at 14,800rmb. We ended up paying 14,200 with some pretty aggressive haggling. People on MOTOFANS said that you could get the bike as low as 13,500rmb. I've also seen the bike for sale on Taobao for 13,000, but we've been warned that there are lesser quality versions of the bike out there.
I've never seen the bigger 300cc version at Pubei Lu, but there's a dealer in Xinzhuang (Shanghai) selling the bike for 15,000 rmb.
Let me know if you wanna have a look. That bike also has 250 stickers on the side but the dealer said it was 300cc. I must say that the exhaust system looks much better on the 300 version, but i don't think it looks as street as the 250. I think it looks more like a touring bike in comparison.
This pic doesn't do Regal Raptor any favors but it highlights my point about the 300 looking more like touring bike...
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Had a go on the 250cc version of the one in your picture, was high and heavy. That bike is pre 2009 due to the brake disks.
Thing about the exhaust is the restrictions I see at 2 points coming out of the manifold on the DD250g-2n. I know I'm going to want to modify the exhaust and replacing the entire pipe will be more difficult than just changing over the muffler.Quote:
Originally Posted by dewsnap
Can you please list the address of the Xinzhuang shop? I'd like to take a look at the bigger bikes. Why did you opt for the smaller one if the price difference is so small?
It's a tiny dealer on Qixin Lu, Xinzhuang. I'm not sure of the number, but i'll go with you if you're interested in having a look over the weekend sometime. They only had the one Raptor, but they also have a few strange 250 cruisers that are worth looking at. The dealer is a decent guy and i'm sure you could even get the price down a fair bit. Just up the road is a bigger dealer selling Loncin's and Honda's so it's probably worth the trip.
The bike is a lot bigger than the DD250G-2N and much heavier, which is why i opted for the 250. I also prefer the 250 styling.
I've also seen a few DD250G-N with different exhaust systems. It's probably something i'll look at after the year warranty expires.
A few people have said that with a bit of tinkering this bike can be pretty fast.
Here's another pic i've found of the bike with a different exhaust...
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The one at the back appears to have dual exhausts, :rolleyes1: and those look like cheap scooter exhausts to me. I did exactly that with my Suzuki Windstorm a couple of years ago and the damn things kept burned out twice before I found a half decent model. Also note that the pipes themselves have been completely replaced and are not stock at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by dewsnap
Meeting up to look at some bikes sounds like fun, let me check the weekend schedule and get back to you.
Dewsnap, our raptors had restrictive sleeves in the headers, and those muffler boxes have more baffles and spacers. We had to make up our entire headers from new including welding and bending them
Although if yours is going to be EFI then you may be buying a bike with less restrictive problems.
When you get the bike please report back on the tire name and model. Still Cheng Shin?
Certainly will ZMC. The Raptor owners on MOTOFANS have all upgraded to a fatter back tire. They recommended that i do that when i get my bike.
I'll find out the make and model of the tire they use too. I know you were happy with the tire on your bike.
It doesn't sound like an easy process to replace the pipes and mufflers. I'm not really looking at any big mods yet, as i've still got to learn to ride the bike first. Lol.
I'd be very interested in looking at any recent pics you have of your bike ZMC or of any mods you may have done since last posting in your Raptor thread.
I've seen a DD250G with a strange exhaust setup. He had two tiny pipes cut short really short that stuck out the sides of the engine, at the bottom, under the bike. The whole back section of the exhaust had been cut off. Don't know why that was done but i'd bet he was trying to sort out the restrictive problems that you mentioned.
Fatter doesn't mean better. Far too many bikes with the wrong profile and width out there these days. A 250cc with a 130 is fine, maybe a 140 for looks, but anything wider is just wasted money. Ride it for a month and see if you still have chicken strips :naughty:.Quote:
Originally Posted by dewsnap
Cheers!
ChinaV
Thanks ChinaV. The two guys i've met from MOTOFANS were both real porkers. Twice the size and weight of me. Would a fatter tire be useful for someone who is heavy?
Forgive me, what are chicken strips?
Was that on Youkou? I saw it too. He still had the tail pipes coming out the back of the bike but they were disconnected at the bottom. I've had some good success with modding exhaust and airbox systems on my bikes, but all of them so far have had carburetors. Not sure how the fuel injection system will come into play on one of these newer bikes.Quote:
Originally Posted by dewsnap
I didn't know either, here's what I found: "The harder you lean into corners, the more of the tyre you use. This means that a biker who rides hard will have an evenly-worn tyre. A biker who rides gently will not use the outer edges of the rubber resulting in a phenomenon known as 'chicken strips'. These are very uncool and a beacon to those in the know that the rider is a novice."Quote:
Originally Posted by dewsnap
They're the unused strips on the sides of the tire that show how far you lean over when you turn. Supposedly you are a better rider if you lean your bike over farther. If you check out the bikes that the riders use on a track, like at Tian Ma, you'll notice the strips are much smaller than on a street bike. That's my excuse anyhow.:riding:Quote:
Originally Posted by dewsnap
Nice. Thanks for that.
...Yeah, i did see that weird exhaust set up on Youku. Here's the link. http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTQ1NDQ0MTcy.html
The guys completley ruined his bike.
Another Youku clip with a different exhaust set up. http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjMxNzQyOTg0.html This one looks like another cheap scooter exhaust but he's clearly had some welding done.
I'm hoping you do get the Raptor Nuhaus, i reckon i could learn a lot from you.
http://photos.imageevent.com/chinabi...0516114812.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Nuhaus
http://photos.imageevent.com/chinabi...0516115446.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/chinabi...0518133202.jpg
Something like this? - All credits go to ChinaV and Chinabiker, their photos!
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Top stuff!
ChinaV +1. You do not need a beefier back tire, or front tire. The tire sizes found on most Regal Raptors and on many Chinese cruisers are the same as the good old Honda Rebel (CMX250) cruiser:
http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/photo...l250-small.jpg
Honda designed them with specific tire sizes. The tire is already very large at 130mm width for a 234cc bike, and this size is wider than both the YBR250 and Yinggang, and the tire design and compound should be really good enough. I have already lent the bike over and done knee grinds on the DD250G-2, but you need slimmer pegs than my model had from new, or they get in the way. Putting bigger tires on bikes than they are designed with seems common practice among Chinese riders, but in the UK, for example, it is seriously frowned upon.
To get rid of chicken strips you need either a race track or an empty piece of black top (clean car park, dead end or roundabout), although a good rider can end up with minimal chicken strips, 0-1cm is common.
+1 wider tire frown.
Edit: Customs are good for all that kind of modding.
Had no idea wider tire's were frowned upon amongst bikers.
My wife was doing the translating bewteen us, possibly they weren't suggesting a wider tire, just a different brand. It definitely looked wider though.
Anyway, thanks for the info.
Here's another option. The Regal Raptor DD350E-6C Daytona. A beautiful street legal cruiser. Had the pleasure of sitting on one today.
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I saw a couple of interesting bikes down at Pubei Lu (Shanghai) today.
A massive Suzuki Intruder 1800cc. For sale at a whopping 250k rmb. :eekers:
The guys in the store said the bike can be registered in China.
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And there was also a guy on a KTM with the Shanghai yellow A plate. I didn't think you could register KTM bikes in China? :confused1:
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I was informed over the weekend that a host of new Suzuki big bore bikes are gonna be available in China from July 2011. It all seems rather exciting.
The Pubei Lu store had a Suzuki Hayabusa on display and i believe they are taking orders already.
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(is this still the fastest production bike money can buy?)