Years ago, I put a Yamaha XT 250 engine in a XT 200 frame, had to tip the moter out to adjust the valves. No very convienent.
If I was going to put money into my JH 150GY-2, I would rebuild the forks and find another shock.
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Years ago, I put a Yamaha XT 250 engine in a XT 200 frame, had to tip the moter out to adjust the valves. No very convienent.
If I was going to put money into my JH 150GY-2, I would rebuild the forks and find another shock.
I went for a ride yesterday. I was to lazy to cover my bike for last 2 weeks and it became really filthy. As for me it was still to cold to enjoy the ride. Today I guess should be better. Anyway, I took my bike to a chinese car wash, two old guys washed it with the karcher and later with sponges... yes they washed the chain also what shouldnt have happened and i guess there was some water that went into exhaust but for 10rmb my bike looks like new.
The guys on motofans wrote something about other guys whose sprocket screw got loose and it cut off the other srews. i dont know how to translate it:
最近身边发生了2起后链轮4个固定螺丝半路断掉，抛锚的事件， 一个车9000公里，另一个才1500公里http://www.motorfans.com.cn/bbs/images/smilies/005.gif。 这个情况不多见，但是最近却连续发生在身边，使我出去玩都提心吊胆的怕坏在半路，难道是螺丝质量问题，禁不 起大扭力折腾？ 可我也跑了快1w公里，还有朋友跑了近3w公里了也没发生这样的悲剧呀http://www.motorfans.com.cn/bbs/images/smilies/sad.gif
经过论坛里还有群里讨论，我觉得下面的原因比较靠谱，特此提醒各位注意检查一下：
如果后链盘上4个螺丝的螺母松了，一定要紧固，螺丝断掉很可能是因为固定螺母松掉所致。
试想一下，如果4个里面有2个螺丝松掉了，那麽这2个螺丝基本就不受力了，而本应由4颗螺丝承担的全部驱动 力就都落到了剩下的两个螺丝上，很容易断掉，如果它们先断掉了，那麽松动的两个螺丝也就会自然成为受力者， 接着断掉。这个问题不仅会发生在翼狭车上，同样也会发生在其他摩托上，当然这样的越野车，如果能多两颗脸盘 固定螺丝就好了。http://www.motorfans.com.cn/bbs/imag...es/biggrin.gif
如果真是这样，那麽1500公里就断掉螺丝，相信是因为车出厂时那四颗螺丝就没有拧紧造成的。
还好我换过链盘，亲手拧上的那四颗螺丝，现在还没有断掉
链盘螺丝松动使四个接触的缓冲套受力不均，会使原本脆弱的缓冲套跟容易损坏。http://www.motorfans.com.cn/bbs/images/smilies/cool.gif
I'm not even sure if its about Jialing.
Could anyone recommend different rear suspension for my bike? Taobao link would be great:)
Mines area, I'm not even sure exactly where it was
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Hey Filipu,
long time no see. The pictures look great. No clue how to get there again?
I ll try to figure it out. I could go there again but I can't find it on the map.I thought I prefer to ride alone but today I got really bored so I'd be happy for a company next time:)I did this today. About 300km from Xizhimen in total. This roads are really really amazing!
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No problems with my Jialing recently. DaiBu is thinking about 250ccm engine replacement. I might do the same. On the other side as you said about the small tank, with 150ccm today I was really worried today that I will run out of gas at some point in mountains.
Hey community!
I think one of the best ways to illustrate how satisfied I am with the JH-150GY-3 is to tell you that I ordered a second one yesterday. I will hand my first one over to my gf and ride the new one myself. I was thinking of buying a Galaxy XTR 250 ADV but in the end the lacking support infrastructure in Beijing, the unsupportive sales Team at Galaxy and the cheaper price were decisive factors. Also, with two identical bikes, I don't have to learn any new bike specs and don't have to order new spare parts.
Last but not least, during my trip in Sichuan, Gansu and Shaanxi, the bike not once let me down, so I think it is a good choice. Might play with the gearing in the future to get a little more top speed and a little less consumption. Filipu, how do you feel with your 38 (instead of 42) rear sprocket in combination with the O-ring chain? I am still driving stock chain and sprockets without problems (except for low top speed).
Hey, I had to buy myself a new sprocket to replace it with the chain and I bought again 39. Well I can't say the difference between 42 and 39 but 39 is fine. The chain looks massive. The stock chain compared to X ring looks like bicycle chain. I had problems with stock chain all the time, getting loose, got rusty. I don't know why it's different with yours. I used two and now I hope the x ring will last longer. There is a massive amount of thick oil coming out of the x-ring. i don't know if it is normal. On 39 sprocket I ride 105km/h maybe. But I think the meter is lying and it's just 95.
I,m also happy with my Jialing, I would consider going on it to Europe as Richard says the parts are so universal for this bike. If I move to Malaysia next year I will go on this bike. Last weekend while I was riding the rubber fuel tube has broken, I had a leak and if not my passenger who noticed that I would run out of fuel. It was easy to fix and made me proud to fix something on my own finally. In front of a female passenger especially hehe.
I have a creaking or squeak noise ( i don't know which word is the right one) coming from my bike recently. Probably shocks. Does anyone know what I should do about it? Do you oil shocks? I've never done it so far :/
New Jialing is also blue? Did you order it from the same guys? Our insurance will run out soon right? What are you planning to do about it? Do we need the inspection of the bike after first year?
I found out my insurance already expired in April ( so my whole sichuan gansu adventure was uninsured:confused1:) probably it was the insurance of the first owner.
So I will bring my bike to Beijing Riders next week and tell them to renew insurance (and tires)
New bike I bought at the place the motorfans told us about. Seems to be as good (or bad) as any other chinese bike shop. Bike comes with 京B plates (on the shop) and insurance...
Hey all, I literally just walked back n the front door from buying one of these up in Beijing. I'll go pick it up and ride it home on Thursday or Friday.
I had originally gone up today to look at a second-hand ZongShen, the only thing it had going for it was that it was cheap (asking 6200, plated). But first I decided to go to Qili to see what QingQi models they had available. Hey had 2 models of their 200cc EFI for 15500 and 17000 respectively. I was really hoping to stay n the 10-12 range. Then I saw this bike (and a jh600 that I Almost talked my wife into) for 7300. They didn't do much for me on the price, but I ended up snagging it for 8300 (inc. plates, ins., Reg., and agent fee). When I go back up I'll see if they'll throw in some freebies ;)
I had really wanted a 250 and was willing to settle for a 200, definitely didn't want a 150 -but reading his thread I think I'll be happy. And I'd rather have a bike than wait for this whole guosan thing to get sorted out by the manufacturers...
So quickly it seems I should:
watch the brake lever
Watch the chain
Swap a new plug
Take it in the dirt!
(and yes it's blue :lol8:)
Hey! welcome in the blue Jialing gang. Maybe we'll make a big meeting one day;)
Dear thedannywahl,
Welcome to MCM and welcome to the Jialing brotherhood. You'll be forgiven for passing up the chance to buy the JH600; Hey, there's always next year! Think of it this way: As your wife grows bored of riding pillion, she can inherit the JH150GY-3 and you can graduate to the big thumper....
Meantime, congratulations on choosing the little Jialing, and for the good fortune of being in this forum where there's a rapidly growing body of expertise about that bike, as you've already begun to see.
Given the fact that your bike does not exist without pictures, let's see some snaps of your young steed in action, and we'll be looking out for those pix of your wife doing her solo training rides...
cheers
What chain did you replace with? I'd rather do it early on rather than waiting to stretch/snap the factory one.
Well the pics are on my wife's phone... And I'll definitely get some when I pick it up this week ;)Quote:
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How did you know I've been teaching my wife to ride? Using my friend's R9 in our basement... not quite the same, yet!
http://trade.taobao.com/trade/detail...50979159661865 this one
if tripodometer is what i think it is, Jailing has it. It doesn't have fuel level meter.
and no gear indicator!
the JH 150GY-3 has the 520, right? I still use the stock chain (even replaced it with an original stock) and had no problems so far. Did 9000 km on my first one. Just need to clean and lube it regularly and keep it tight on the sprockets...Quote:
Originally Posted by filipu
well I made it home with the bike. if you're interested in seeing the Beijing/Tianjin countryside in second great behind overweight trucks then I highly recommend taking the G103! I won't be going that way again myself.
it was a great ride, nice to be back on a full size frame again, that's for sure.
so here's a couple of pictures of the bike back in the basement at home and one of my way too hot winner riding gear. I took a few tool and a little bottle of beating lubricant with me and did a ~30-point inspection at the dealer before I made payment. only problems were 1) right side plastics were basely attached, like they were thumbed on and forgot to get tightened. and the brake fluid fit the front brake was low. fit those fixed and I was off.
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I wanted to report back with my impressions after 500Km. I know that's not a lot, but with the crazy weather this last week, this bike has seen a lot already. I also wanted to share some photos of Tianjin after the flooding
Likes:
This bike is powerful (even for a 150) it has a good cruising speed but if you need to throttle it it responds well and the pace picks up immediately. It's comfortable too, took me 4 hours to come back from Beijing last week and I was less sore when I got home than I normally am from my 30 minute commute on my old bike.
This bike is a work-horse. After the floods I had it in some deep mud, deep puddles, and long long stretches of deep flooding. You just can't stop this bike. I had it in flooded areas up to the foot pegs and thought for sure I'd drown it, but every time it choked I'd just feather the clutch and rev it a little bit to breathe and keep going.
This bike is stable. Despite having semi-road tires (not slicks, not knobbies) the traction, and the "feel" of stability is 100%. I've only been able to spin the rear tire one time, and that was trying to pop it up the curb out of 20cm of water- and it still had enough grip to do it. Tight leans don't feel wobbly at all in high or low speeds.
This bike is lean. I'm sure I saved over an hour just in a 300m lead-up to a massive flooded section on the wai huan xian (Tianjin's Ring Road) yesterday by lane-splitting through the parked traffic. I was never worried about not making a corner or bumping anyone.
Dislikes:
The starter/ignition system on this bike sucks! For a cold start (engine, not weather!) I'm always afraid I'm going to either kill the battery or flood it before I actually get it started. Warm starts are fine, and once it's running it runs great.
The chain is crap. I guess this makes it 2:1 for stock chains. It's only been a week and this thing is so stretched and worn out I can't believe it. I've decided to just wait out this nasty weather and swap it for a nice new one rather than trying to service this one to restoration.
Pictures:
I know Beijing got all the headlines for flooding, but at least they have a drainage system! Hebei and Tianjin got it pretty bad too. These are from yesterday morning and the flooding has been there since the first major storm. The problem is that everything naturally drains to the low-point, but those low points don't have anywhere to drain. Also everyone's running pumps like crazy, but they're just pumping it up to higher ground where it's re-flooding somewhere else.
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This is after I popped the curb to take the picture - add another 9 or 10cm and that's how deep the road is. Problem is, even though side streets aren't flooded, this is the major road you need to cross a split-highway to access the Ring Road. Which of course led to 2 things: 1) lots of stuck cars 2) lots (more than usual) driving the wrong way down roads.
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The view from my apartment as of Thursday, been like that since Sunday. At least it's below the sidewalk now :confused1:
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The outer ring road choked down to 1 lane. Hard to tell but Lane 1 is about 3" deep whereas Lane 4 is quickly about 12-18" deep depending on the spot. For the main in-town highway it's not looking so good!
Overall:
I love this bike. This is exactly why I've never been able to stray away from dual sports - and why I wanted this new one. I'm extremely happy that it's as tall as it is as I surely would have drown another motard or my other bike. It has it's flaws, but it's also probably the cheapest dual sport that you can get, and there's nothing a couple hundred RMB can't fix.
I'm just sad I missed the opportunity to take the picture of the guy trying to pull his CB400 through knee-deep mud, but I was too busy riding through it! :lol8:
Hi Dannywahl,
thanks for this review. Since neither filipu nor myself have a lot of M/C experience, I appreciate the comments from someone who knows what he is talking about.
As for the chain:it is definitely cheap but I had no problems so far as long as I did a good cleaning and lube job.I think Filipu replaced the stock with an O-ring chain.
My two cents about my new (second) one: It is much more quiet than the old one but also seems to lack some power compared to the other. Whether this is real or just the impression of a engine that doesn't rev as loud, I cannot say. Electric starter is definitely a problem. I was surprised to learn that my one cold-starts better in winter than in summer conditions. Another thing is the rear brake light. It is on all the time. I played around with the spring at the footpeg that triggers the brakelight but it seems that the distance when you push the footbrake is just not long enough to make it really work. For the moment I improvised a solution that involves some duct tape but I will have to think of something more reliable.
So far...
So I've run into a few headaches with this bike lately but overall it's good. Here's the backstory (briefly):
1: Handlebars (and then some!)
bought some hand guards (in blue of course! haha!) and went to install them only to find out that the bar-ends were capped and welded shut. No big deal, bust off the cap and you're on your way. Turns out it's a huge freaking dowel going all the way down to the joint. Well after the shifu snapped his dye in the bar-end and said 没办法 I ordered some aluminum bars. (who knew you couldn't tap and dye with a crescent wrench... oh wait, I did- and I told him it wouldn't work) So now I have 1/2" of 4mm snapped steel sticking out of the end of my grip...
When they arrived I couldn't get the clutch/choke assembly remounted because the cables didn't have enough slack. Turns out that they were extremely taught around the front of the frame and then bolted (pinched) between the tank and the top-tube of the frame (not sure to blame the manufacturer or the dealer for that).
Removed the plastics, seat, and tank - requiring a variety of drivers, wrenches, and sockets of various sizes only to discover that there's still no play on the cables! They were designed exactly for the height/width of the stock bars. Ok I decided to put the stock bars back on and rethink it. Oops! they've already been stolen in the 15 minute timeout I took to go pick my daughter up from ballet at the you er yuan.
Turns out the front brake cable is exactly the same way - not even 1/2" of play.
So now I've ordered new new bars closer to the stock size that can hopefully "just work"
Oh yeah- the hand guards require a 4, 5, AND 6mm hex wrench to install. WTF? Make them all 5!
2: Spark plug
even though it comes with a plug wrench you need to remove the plastics, seat, and tank to be able to seat the wrench (or any other socket) to swap it...
3: chain
I threw a proper 520 o-ring chain after the stock one was crap (as noted previously) and my friend said my bike "sounded like a sewing machine on steroids" for about a week. Turns out there wasn't a lot of space for a wider chain behind the front sprocket and the chain was rubbing the housing. I looked at it and thought about filing down the housing but decided "screw it, it's doing that on it's own" - and it's fine now, but come give me 2mm!
Aside from that there's a lot of engineered friction of the chain track itself specifically top-side from rear sprocket to front. It's kind of like a chain guide but rubber and about 4" long of friction. Why design a chain that way? I have no idea...
4: headlamp
Seeing as it's a single bulb with hi-low I just assumed it was H4. I'm glad I didn't order a high-power bulb w/o checking. Turns out it's an S2 (wth is that?) 12v 35w/35w philips incandescent bulb that's been around for 90 years. it's crappy light that's pretty much useless at night. Fortunately I was able to find a 50w/50w bulb, but for 15RMB I'm not too optimistic about the results (still waiting for it to arrive- will report back on that)
luckily according to the owners manual the bike should be able to output about 110W - which I'm not coming close to stock so bumping another 15 in the lamp shouldn't be a problem... I'm hoping not for the housing or wiring either...
5: Fenders
Aside from being comically large (and floppy) the front fender doesn't really function well at all. Despite having a mud-flap on the back (that block all air-flow to the engine) if the road is wet I'm going to end up soaked from feet to knees - e.g. it's not really functioning that well.
Solution: Stick a split-fender from a YGB-125g on the bike. I'll let you know how it functions next time it rains but aesthetically I'm happier with it than the stock one.
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Beyond these more-or-less self-inflicted wounds the bike is running great. I have about 3K KM on it now - mostly highway but I've had it in the dirt some too. I'm still extremely happy with it. What was more surprising for me was heading out with my wife riding pillion and NOT noticing a difference in ride-ability: suspension/comfort, power/acceleration, or cruising speed. I'm more convinced than ever that this is a well designed work horse in that regard.
Hey TDW,
sorry, I should have posted this earlier. I also ran into difficulties with the solid welded ends of the handlebars. I ordered this one which is the stock one without the solid ends. And it is really cheap:clap:
Before that, I went through three imported drillheads (12 EUR each) trying to drill all that steel out...
Regarding the headlamp. I agree that it is not great but then again, I almost never ride at night. When I had to for the first time at the end of my inner mongolia/Xanadu ride with Barry and lobotomous, I felt they were ok. We did not go faster than 70 and for that purpose they were sufficient.
Spark Plugs: I took out the plugs a couple of times without taking off anything before, no problem.
Yeah, the front fender is really wobbly...
I havn't been here for ages. Great post TDW. How did it work with the lamp and fenders? Any new modifications? I'm doing some shopping for next season and I'd like to change some things. Fahni this handlebar is ok? Same dimensions? I still have the old handguards I couldn't fit on the old handlebar.
The fender has worked well - after a snow I had a ride and it actually caught the slush. Front of my boots got wet still but that's far better than drenched up to the knees.Quote:
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At first I didn't think the bulb was much brighter than the original, when comparing photos I took - but when actually riding it's noticeably brighter.
I'm still looking for three things:
1) windshield - I just want a low one to deflect from my body
2) engine guard - just because
3) proper luggage rack and luggage. I've been trying to get specs on the 大白菜 rack to see if it'll fit.
I'm thinking to buy these side bags
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=...&id=2658305232
I also have an aldo box.
Didi you find the engine guard?
I just bought handle bar found by fahni, bulb, new sprockets 12 and 38 teeth and new chain.
I've found this air filter today. It says its for Jialing 150gy-3
We have a foam filter. This one would be better right?
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=..._u=nj9kt26fba2
filipu,
I've been trying to find some specs on the Jialing JH125L "大白菜“ as it has a fair amount of accessories available - it's a matter of compatability with the 150. For example here's a 125 with full racks (including handlebar). It also has an engine guard available:
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=...&id=6282755345
Ok, so that's not really a jialing - it's a little piecemeal but you get the idea...
Hi there all!
Filipu, I got those bags and they are really cool. A bit bulky and I don't like the color. The material is tough and absolutely water proof.
I replicated the design with the truck tarp which i use to produce my courier bags (15 different colors) and added some features like a plastic board on the inside and a connection between the two bags that can be adjusted according to the width of the seat/rack. Some members on MCM have tested them without major problems. Only thing is you should make sure they don't get in contact with the exhaust. The material of the original bags seems to be superior in that regard.
Let's talk on No bike night if you wan't one of my (superexpensive) saddle bags.
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I would also like to have a better wind shield. I guess some 5-7 cm higher would be enough.
I don't think that the accessories of the dabaicai will fit the JH150GY. I seem to remember that the mounting points for the rear rack are different from the JH150GY.
How super expensive? They are huge!
I thought I've seen before black version of those bags.
How did you protect it from exhaust?
What abou tthe air filter I've found guys? Will it fit?
those bags look nice - but they look like they go right over the passenger pegs. My wife wouldn't be too happy about that!