Jialing JH600B Sidecar

TB Racing, I now have 16 days and counting before I head to Chongqing to go and collect mine so I am chuffed to bits that you are loving yours!

Battery charger/ optimiser is a great idea. I keep my Tiger back home in the UK permanently linked up to a similar sort of thing called an OptiMate Charger when the bike is not in use and the battery life is always perfect and the bike is on the button every time even after long stints sitting in a cold Scottish barn!

Any chance you can pm me your mobile number so I can give you a quick bell about the bike. I am planning on riding 1650kms straight from the factory up to Yinchuan and would like to be as knowledgeable about the bike as I can possibly hope to be before I head out from the Jialing factory gates.

Cheers

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Any chance you can pm me your mobile number so I can give you a quick bell about the bike. I am planning on riding 1650kms straight from the factory up to Yinchuan and would like to be as knowledgeable about the bike as I can possibly hope to be before I head out from the Jialing factory gates.

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Mate, not much to say about the JH600B-A bike, give the nuts and bolts a going over, check tyre pressure and fluids (oil, coolant, etc.), check and lube the drive chain and get out cruising. Changed the oil / filter after 1000k's and will do so again around 2000k's to get all the metal bits and shaving out of the engine. Only add ons from my side so far: GPS RAM handlebar mount and a CTek battery smart charger.

Thought about a performance exhaust but like the exhaust note of the OEM system and enjoy listening to music while cruising wearing my Schuberth Helmet with SRC Bluestooth system. A performance exhaust might raise the power output a bit but lets not talk about weight savings on a heavy sidecar rig.

Carrying the usual tool kit as mention in another thread: http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/sh...quot-(Repairs)

Any questions, ask them here and other might benefit as well from the feedback or chime in with some solid input.

side-note: we should arrange a Jialing meeting later this year in Shanghai, after HOG and DOG we can call the group = JOG......

Thanks for this Butch. With regards giving the fasteners a going over, do you mean as far as removing them, threadlocking them and replacing or just checking they are actually tight enough in the first place. Does anyone know if Jialing actually use threadlock upon assembly? Being a PLA provider one would hope they do, but that could well be an assumption too far!?!

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Any questions, ask them here and other might benefit as well from the feedback or chime in with some solid input.

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Good idea. Right, here's a few to start:

1) I assume the Jialing Sidecar Tyres have Inners: Y/N If so, what size(s)?

2) I would like to change out the Chinese spark plugs for NGK ones as per Pfaelzer's Jialing mod thread. Can anyone confirm if the NGK Iridium CR8EIX's are still the right ones to go for as I think they should be?

3) Is there an English Jialing JH600A-B Manual? If so, can someone pm it to me or send me a link to a download that works. If you can send it to me I will upload it to my Google Drive and post the link on here for one and all.

4) Not hugely important, but are there any hand guards that fit EASILY onto the Jialing. These are more for windshear reduction than protection as I am certainly hoping not to put the rig on it's side anytime soon, but a few mountain passes in October as well as long motorway slogs could get rather cold and I have noticed the windsheer reduction on my Tiger's guards make a big difference in themselves. I saw Pfaelzer's got some, but had to machine some bits out to make them fit. If there are any plug and play ones that anyone knows of a link to a Taobao listing would be great as I don't have the time pre-trip to start spending hours getting something like this to fit.

5) Aside from a bag of oil filters, a few chain master links, spare plugs, tyre inners pending Qu.1, (and of course the mandatory tool kit) can anyone think of anything Jialing specific that I should not be without for what should be a +5000km trip.

For those who have been to the Jialing factory, do you reckon I can stock up on all these bits there at cost or should I be pre-planning a Taobao session before I head off?

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side-note: we should arrange a Jialing meeting later this year in Shanghai, after HOG and DOG we can call the group = JOG......

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Sounds like a good option!

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3) Is there an English Jialing JH600A-B Manual? If so, can someone pm it to me or send me a link to a download that works. If you can send it to me I will upload it to my Google Drive and post the link on here for one and all.

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There is an incomplete manual in English that we sourced through Europe, and exploded parts diagrams in Chinese and English in .xls format. I can forward these to you if you PM me your email address.

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4) Not hugely important, but are there any hand guards that fit EASILY onto the Jialing. These are more for windshear reduction than protection as I am certainly hoping not to put the rig on it's side anytime soon, but a few mountain passes in October as well as long motorway slogs could get rather cold and I have noticed the windsheer reduction on my Tiger's guards make a big difference in themselves. I saw Pfaelzer's got some, but had to machine some bits out to make them fit. If there are any plug and play ones that anyone knows of a link to a Taobao listing would be great as I don't have the time pre-trip to start spending hours getting something like this to fit.

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Do an advanced search for my thread called Hand Job.

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For those who have been to the Jialing factory, do you reckon I can stock up on all these bits there at cost or should I be pre-planning a Taobao session before I head off?

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Last I was at the factory, I purchased oil filters, extra cables and levers, extra inner tubes, etc. But that was before the entire JH600 team was purged last year. You should consider connecting with a guy called Tang Wei Tang 唐炜, a sales engineer who was among the purged, who now has a very nice JH600 parts store on Taobao. He's there in Chongqing, and I'd guess he's within a couple hundred meters of the factory complex, or maybe even inside. I can PM you his mobile if you like.

cheers

Euphonius, thanks for this!! I've just pm'd you as well

Euphonius -

also just PM'd you for that contact and Eng Manual - thanks.

My JH600B-A dashboard went dead and completely stopped operating, Shanghai JL service centre (Xiao Fan) replaced the dashboard and a small relay near the battery without any problems within 15 min. the other day. Have around 3200k's on the bike, love it.....

TB-Racing thanks for the heads up about this!

I am in Lanzhou and am just giving the bike over to Deppon this afternoon to ship it back to Shanghai. Had an absolutely EPIC trip and we hit 5000kms on the tacho on the way here last night. Full ride report report to follow in due course. In general the bike behaved pretty well considering in the course of the 12 day trip it got an absolute thrashing with 2 of the hardest days off-roading I have ever done all >4000 meters. Some damage to report and a clutch that VERY nearly gave way in a seriously unfunny location, but full details to follow in the RR.

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TB-Racing thanks for the heads up about this!

I am in Lanzhou and am just giving the bike over to Deppon this afternoon to ship it back to Shanghai. Had an absolutely EPIC trip and we hit 5000kms on the tacho on the way here last night. Full ride report report to follow in due course. In general the bike behaved pretty well considering in the course of the 12 day trip it got an absolute thrashing with 2 of the hardest days off-roading I have ever done all >4000 meters. Some damage to report and a clutch that VERY nearly gave way in a seriously unfunny location, but full details to follow in the RR.

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:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popc orn:

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trip and we hit 5000kms on the tacho on the way here last night.

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Did you get the rego sorted or rode without rego / plates?

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:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popc orn:

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boring, freshly baked donuts and a cold beer tastes much better.....

:goodtime::goodtime::goodtime::goodtime::goodtime: :goodtime::goodtime:

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Did you get the rego sorted or rode without rego / plates?

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Rode without any plates for the trip and since LZD is refusing to help me (as I didn't order the bike through him) Jialing have sorted me out with their dealership in Changzhou who are going to sort Jiangsu plates for the bike. The bike should be back in Shanghai in about a week (all being well with Deppon, who incidentally were very efficient and seemingly really quite cheap - final bill tbc) so I am going to get on the case with Jialing Changzhou and the Jiangsu rego then.

Got questioned by the police on 5 different occasions, but the only time they asked about the paizhao - or lack thereof - was when they caught me at 2am on the Gaosu in Sichuan on the way up to Yinchuan and when I told them I had bought the bike the day before and showed them the fapiao they didn't seem to care and didn't mention it again.:thumbsup:

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Jialing have sorted me out with their dealership in Changzhou who are going to sort Jiangsu plates for the bike. The bike should be back in Shanghai in about a week

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Had a temporary Shanghai "XA" paper plate (valid for 15 days) within 15-20 min. from the Hami Road Vehicle Managment Bureau the day after my bike was delivered through LZD / Mr.Fan in case you do not have a plate at all might be worth trying to get one for your bike. Good luck with your registration and plating in Jiangsu, make sure you get a real rego and plate as Jiangsu is notorious for fake plates and rego.....

Lets set up a JOG = Jialing Owners Group meeting in Shanghai in the near future.

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Had a temporary Shanghai "XA" paper plate (valid for 15 days) within 15-20 min. from the Hami Road Vehicle Managment Bureau the day after my bike was delivered through LZD / Mr.Fan in case you do not have a plate at all might be worth trying to get one for your bike.

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Sounds like a good option. What do I need to do to get one of them? Has anyone posted about this procedure on here?

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Good luck with your registration and plating in Jiangsu, make sure you get a real rego and plate as Jiangsu is notorious for fake plates and rego.....

Lets set up a JOG = Jialing Owners Group meeting in Shanghai in the near future.

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Yep, I intend to be careful with it, but if anyone can provide any pointers to ensure that I don't end up with a fake one that would be great?

http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/im...quote_icon.png Originally Posted by tombaxers http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/im...post-right.png
Sounds like a good option. What do I need to do to get one of them? Has anyone posted about this procedure on here?



For my Italian import bike had the official China dealer / importer handle it, I prefer all inclusive deals with vehicles..... all they needed from my side was my passport as the official invoice and later registration is in my name.
Once again = all incl. deal, JL LZD took care about the temporary paper plate for my JL-JH600B-A sidecar and all was needed from my side was the ID card from the person the bike gets registered to and the invoice was issued to (procedure took 15min. and he had all the paperwork with him incl. the JL manual and cd-rom and can't really comment what was needed as I waited in a corner doing emails).


http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/im...quote_icon.png Originally Posted by tombaxers http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/im...post-right.png
Yep, I intend to be careful with it, but if anyone can provide any pointers to ensure that I don't end up with a fake one that would be great?



Got some contacts in the police force in Jiangsu or know someone who has.... computer checks are almost 99.9% correct.....

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Full ride report report to follow in due course..... but full details to follow in the RR.

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G'Day,
Great meeting up for this first time while in Moganshan this weekend during the MGS triathlon (side note: I did the drinking, the extreme sports guys did the swim, bicycling, running).
Now after all the details we have talked about i really look forward to the ride report and the list of damages.

Some pics attached taken during the MGS weekend......

Not meaning to hijack this thread but a little off topic of sorts. I'm riding up to Shanghai this coming Monday (15 October) unless the weather turns to custard in which case I will drive up. Planning to stay from Monday through to Wednesday. If you are available for a meet up in SH'ers then drop me a PM. See my thread here> http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/showthread.php?4844-Visiting-Shanghai-16-18-October-2012&p=49492#post49492

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If you are available for a meet up in SH'ers then drop me a PM.

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Not available during weekdays, business visitors in town all this week..... sorry.

Stopping at a roadside shrine in the Moganshan mountains didn't help as the electrical gremlins caught up with me 50k's out of Shanghai (parked up at a paintball / counterstrike playing field at Huqingping Highway) while drinking beers waiting for one of our trusty tow truck drivers.

The power outlet connection and cables rattled loose and the powered wires touched metal somewhere and short circuit a few relay (incl. starter relay), quite funny all the fuses stayed intact.
Just the day before a JL JH600B-A owner mention of exactly the same problem (cables coming loose at the power outlet) and had it on my mental to do list to check the nuts and screws on the power outlet once back home.....

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Not available during weekdays, business visitors in town all this week..... sorry.

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No worries...

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Stopping at a roadside shrine in the Moganshan mountains didn't help as the electrical gremlins caught up with me 50k's out of Shanghai (parked up at a paintball / counterstrike playing field at Huqingping Highway) while drinking beers waiting for one of our trusty tow truck drivers.

The power outlet connection and cables rattled loose and the powered wires touched metal somewhere and short circuit a few relay (incl. starter relay), quite funny all the fuses stayed intact.
Just the day before a JL JH600B-A owner mention of exactly the same problem (cables coming loose at the power outlet) and had it on my mental to do list to check the nuts and screws on the power outlet once back home.....

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Bugger! How much did it cost you for the tow back into SH?

My 650 Burgman Exec, spat the dummy last week, when it came with a dreaded F1 warning, after having refuelled at a petrol station just out of Ningbo city on a ride back home 30km away. I switched on the ignition - all the usual idiot lights and headlight came on, hit the starter and nothing. After checking and rechecking what I could, gave in and called 122 (emergency breakdown service) and towed the bike on a tow truck the 25km back to home. The next morning, during fault finding in my garage with full suite of tools, I discovered that a small plug that connects through a battery cover connecting point direct to the starter solenoid had become disconnected all on its own (bike was new to me 3 weeks at the time). Reconnected plug, and all problems solved. Cost to me for the whole incident was rmb350 and 4 hours of my time for the roadside wait and transport back to home.

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How much did it cost you for the tow back into SH?

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400RMB for towing service and we always hand over some tip as you never know when you need them again....

Correction to my earlier post, only the battery fried, the starter relay is fine, connecting & assembling of the power outlet and a new battery cured the problem. Had an full oil service done at the same time, filter shows very tiny metal particles and should be normal.

Hi Guys,

I've had a few people tell me the JH600B-A is 2WD, but I haven't seen reference to that anywhere. Is It? If so, how is the power train configured?

Cheers,

Dan K.

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NO​, rear wheel drive only......

Thanks TB.

Cheers,

Dan K.

G'Day,

Installed a set of Storm BARKBUSTERS (Australia) http://www.barkbusters.net on the JL sidecar this afternoon, great quality as usual, not the cheap crap on offer out at the bike parts market or Taobao....

The absence of clamps certainly makes installing much easier.

TB, they look great. Exactly along the lines of what I was looking for.

Where did you get them?

I am in the States and can order them while I am here but they may be same price at your source if in China.

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....they may be same price at your source if in China.

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Mate brought them back from Melbourne / Oztralia...... the kit comes with all the parts for mounting to different bikes with internal handlebar threads (JL JH600B-A has 8mm threads), easy installation.

Thanks TB, I will try and get them while I am here in the USA. You would not have the model number or ID number of this kit easy to find by any chance? I did not see that on the website. (Of course I did not really look for that yet but I am lazy and always ask first) Anyway, I really like the universal kit idea. For some reason, my handlebars are different from some of the other bikes in this forum and the clamps on the cheap all plastic units that worked for others did not work on my bike. (Anyone with 7/8 inch all the way bars that want them can have them)

First the charger and now this, I owe you several rounds of the alcohol of your choice for all the good shit you find for the Jialing.

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Thanks TB, I will try and get them while I am here in the USA. You would not have the model number or ID number of this kit easy to find by any chance?

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Somehow I knew this was coming, for a solo bike would use the full "handlebar clamp-on" style Barkbuster hand guards, used them on different solo bikes in the past and my Italian Diva has them mounted as well.
http://www.twistedthrottle.com/shop-...uards?limit=48

Barbusters for bar end mounting only:
6 + 8mm Threads: http://www.twistedthrottle.com/barkb...ar-end-inserts
7/8" or 1" Handlebars: http://www.twistedthrottle.com/barkb...-7-8-or-1-bars