Re: Zhejiang Jiajue Motorcycle Manufacturing Co.,Ltd.
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culcune
Is WK technically Taiwan based?
Their only contact information is a UK phone number, that is shared with http://www.quadzillaquads.com/sports.htm
that is a UK car dealer technically, based in Horncastle....
Re: Zhejiang Jiajue Motorcycle Manufacturing Co.,Ltd.
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MJH
WK is a branding of the Jiajue models. They were previously known as White Knuckle as a brand and they are under the same company as Quadzilla which is Fast Toys Ltd. or something along those lines. WK also deal with Lintex, Shineray, Hisun and Dinli
Re: Zhejiang Jiajue Motorcycle Manufacturing Co.,Ltd.
WK dropped most of the Jiajue bikes all but the N10? The 250 versions were only a flash on their website?
Jiajue's next offering, the C8 is a the copy of a KTM is showing up on the PEDA website but that bike is likely to be drawing too much attention to the copies?
When models come and go, you never know why when they are Chinese, it could be that they are copies and were called out on that, that they had low sales or maybe had quality issues?
Jiajue C8
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...c92be99146.jpg
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Re: Zhejiang Jiajue Motorcycle Manufacturing Co.,Ltd. Envygo 250
I thought I would introduce my China bike , an Envygo 250 acquired through a process of barter here in Brisbane , Australia . The name is unfortunate , reminiscent of something green and leafy rather than a dynamic powerful two wheeled product !
My Envygo appears very similar to the Motrac 250 , I believe it to be a Jiajue machine , supplied locally from either Daves Cool Cars or from the company Envygo (Both Gold Coast , Queensland )
The bike came with a booklet which shows a different specification to that supplied by the importers . They claim 19.3 kw @ 9,000RPM from the 250cc 4 Valve engine and torque of 22.0Nm @ 8,000RPM. It is not clear whether the engine is SOHC or DOHC.
My motorcycle is a matt black colour , which I quite like , and rides similarly to my previous bike a Hyosung 250 GT . My only complaints are that the seat is very hard and the front discs grab fiercely , actually locking the front wheel on a loose surface . The bike has only done 400 kilometres so is still running in . It is happy to maintain 100 kmh on the freeway .
It would be useful to obtain a workshop manual for the Envygo which would save a lot of time . For example I changed the spark plug and finished up removing four panels and the fuel tank to get at it ! During this exercise I noted that to check coolant level it was necessary to remove a side panel – not good design !
I would like someone to identify the engine for me from my photos so that later I stand a better chance of getting spares (Maybe a Zongshen ? Will a Yingang engine fit straight into a Zongshen frame ? ) I have found already that the importer confuses air and oil filters , not a good sign . A local company Oz Scooters Direct in Toowoomba supplies Motrac 250's and may carry the spares that I will need . They already provide a good service on the Jiajue scooters so hopefully the Motrac 250 will follow the same .
I wonder , can these machines be uprated , say with a larger replacement engine , or possibly by over-boring ? I reckon the running gear would be good for a 650 cc twin installation much like the Hyosung model . The bike is obviously a Honda CBR250 copy . So , will the Honda engine actually fit ? Will other Honda accessories such as the tail rack fit ? Any ideas would be much appreciated .
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that is the SOHC Zongshen engine.
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Gidday Guys . Good to get responses . The engine number is 8DB00008 and the VIN LLPPDNA03E1A . I am pretty sure that the bike is a Jiajue N10 model .
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Jiajue C8 with a ZS177MM-2 Engine, its 279cc they market it as a 300.
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...9cd8ed5ee2.jpg
Zongshen likes to sell engines to others before building a model themselves that uses the engine. Once the design recovers its R&D costs then its optimized in respects to profitability by using it in their own offering. Plus once it gains market recognition and degrees of respect it is easier for them to sell their model. This version of the C8 does not have the KTM like swing arm.
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Puzey out of South Africa is offering the Jiajue copy of a KTM Duke with the Zongshen 279cc SOHC 4-valve as their Atom 300.
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...tom-300-02.jpg
| 46,990.00 ZAR |
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3,049.05 USD |
KTM Duke 390
http://www.motorrad-testbericht.at/m...duke390-04.jpg
| 58,999.00 ZAR |
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3,828.27 USD |
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WK distributor in the UK is discounting its inventory of the Jiajue N10, both versions they offer in either as a 125cc or the 249cc DOHC water cooled, SP250N, are being offered at the same prices.
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...0N-BLACK_1.jpg
| 1,499.00 GBP |
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2,159.23 USD |
The N10 can be configured with either the NC250 Zongshen or the DOHC 250 manufactured by either Yingang or Shineray.
They likely have a time frame to clear out inventory due to changes in emmison regulations. These are actually a bargain...the next version if WK continues to offer these will have to have EFI and ABS.
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A division of Jiajue is Motrac, they are planning on offering a 400cc twin called the MT400
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...f68c962646.jpg
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That 400cc looks very different then the 400cc Jiajue is offering in its N10.
The model is labeled with WK which might mean they will be offering it in the UK as an A2.
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...e93df91c17.png
The engine in the N10 looks like the water-cooled 350 offered through Jonway?
| MODEL N10 |
| L*W*H 2030x709x1127mm |
| Wheel Base 1369mm |
| Seat Height 800mm |
| Fuel tank 20liter |
| Suspension front up-side-down ,rear single gas shock |
| Brake front dual 300mm, rear single 220mm disc brake |
| Tire front 110/70-17,rear 150/60-17 |
| Speedometer digital |
| Starter electric |
| Net Weight 150kgs |
| Packing 2020*570*1180mm |
| Conatiner46pcs/40HQ,20pcs/20FT |
| Engine Type JS400 In-line 2 Cylinder |
| Engine 400CC Water cooled,Double Cylinder Parallel 4 stroke,4 valves |
| Bore*Stroke 63.5 * 63MM |
| Max Power 26.2kw/7600 |
| Max Torque 35.6N.m/5500 |
| Transmission 6 gears |
| Max Speed 170KM/H |
| Pressure Ratio11:01 |
Here are the advertised specs on the Motrac 400, they have the same numbers and both 399cc. However the images are of what look like very different engines. Also the versions of the Jonway and Lifeng 350 that are offered currently are actually under 350cc and these are actually 399cc? Also the previous versions at of the twin at 320cc has a bore and stroke of 62x53, so these are more then bored out versions of the previous engines.
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y.../Motrac400.png
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Hmm...
It looks like more than modified old "Honda" twin we saw on, for example, "Lifeng's" bikes.
"Jiajue" is outsourcing engines - that is clear, but who's been keeping this engine under the radar so far?
Some extra pics and info, not much, but still... http://bbs.86516.com/thread-6360729-1-1.html
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Things are starting to get interesting...
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It is not clear who is the manufacturer behind Motrac, they seem to have displayed their 500cc twin in a show recently. Also announced future V-Twin 800cc model, a cruiser.
http://img2.newmotor.com.cn/UploadFi.../26352/sdf.JPG
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Rumor is that the 500cc twin is being manufactured by Loncin, The MG500 engine does look similar to the CB500 Honda engine, however its bore and stroke are not the same as the Honda’s at least according to this source.
Honda
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-CO6lXcTyuH...ine_sketch.jpg
Motrac
http://img3.newmotor.com.cn/UploadFi...66415/2086.jpg
http://img3.newmotor.com.cn/UploadFi...66415/2087.jpg
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