how to define and ensure "proper" paper-work ?
I am not the only one asking these dummy Q's - could you/we try
to construct a list of thumb-rule or similar of do's,don'ts, rules, assumptions, based of facts, experience etc. - could be valuable info
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how to define and ensure "proper" paper-work ?
I am not the only one asking these dummy Q's - could you/we try
to construct a list of thumb-rule or similar of do's,don'ts, rules, assumptions, based of facts, experience etc. - could be valuable info
You should go to the Jialing factory in Chongqing. They have a showroom for JH600 and you can test ride the bike before you show any money:naughty:Quote:
Originally Posted by MaRX8nka
I have got all legal license and paper work. The bike's title is under my name:deal:
Jialing may not be able to registered the bike for you but their service station in Chongqing or Mainyang can set up your bike and register it for you. No matter what, you are not suppose to ride within the 3rd ring road of Chengdu.:gun_bandana:
Unless they've changed the rules in the past few months, I think you aren't allowed to ride inside second rind road but at night people don't seem to care so much.
Other people have posted suggestions on getting a bike licensed in China as well as tips on staying safe while riding in China. Search around a bit first and then feel free to ask any unanswered questions.
CC
the bike should have more power than a honda xrl 650 .my last bike was the honda . it is rated aT 32 HP . so 30 kw would be more than that with the water cooled 600 . also why do you have police lights and siren on a touring bike?
Because he can. :mwink:
:riding:
CC
Haha, CC, you are getting funnier everyday:icon10:Quote:
Originally Posted by CrazyCarl
Hey Franki, how is the JH600 holding up?
I just read where the Traxx group (Jailing) here in Brazil may start selling the JH600.:clap:
TL
Hi Franki,
have read this post and a number of other posts a few times, anyway I've 3 motorcycles/scooters here in China, having been here 7 years now and counting. I've been reading with more than a passing interest on this Jialing JH600. I'd prefer a BMW F800gs or 1200gs and had a look at one of the two BMW motorrad stores in SH a couple of weekends ago but the prices for a legal/new BMW motorcycle here in PRC are just ridiculous, basically twice the purchase price of the same bikes elsewhere on the planet. Around 元230,000+ for a new F800gs that's twice the price than a new NZ beemer.
This has bought me to Jialing bike, which seems can be licensed here on the mainland without too much hassle. I'm wanting to purchase one, but I'm based in Ningbo and none of the local motorcycle dealers have one, and unless its in stock they're generally not interested in getting one, or don't have the right connection/distribution channels.
Have searched taobao <dot> com several times, and have found a couple of consistent ads, one for a new JH600 for around 元29000 and the other is a second hand/used 2006 JH600 for around 元18000. If anyone here on this site is the owner of the second hand JH600, then get in contact with me. I might just be interested... and if anyone is looking to sell a late model BMW F650, F800GS or 1150/1200GS at a realistic price, then give me a shout out too. I saw the 2004 1150gs for sale too late that sold, pity!
Franki, I've sent emails to lishilin65194677 <at> yeah <dot> net and also jh600 <at> jialing <dot> com <dot> cn two weeks ago but not had any replies, now I understand that either email recipients might have to pass my email onto a 3rd party to get translation done, but if you have any other contact information, then that'd be helpful.
If anyone is ever in Ningbo give me a shout... see my intro for more info.
:)
Sunny side up to all...
Bikerdoc
Hi Blazeafar,Quote:
Originally Posted by blazeafar
My JH600 is holding up fine. Just gone through a factory maintanance to change out all the worn out parts (now over 34,000km). I hope you will get your 2009 model JH600 soon.
By the way, I do plan to tour S. America in 2012. Trying to save up enough money to buy a bike in the US and ride down south.
Cheers,
Franki
Hi Bikerdoc,Quote:
Originally Posted by bikerdoc
You caught me just at the right time. I just came back from riding in western Sichuan for 3 weeks. Its beautiful up there.
Li is in the office but he speaks no English so it may be difficult to get a reply from him. Why don't you have your Chinese friend write him a mail in Chinese? These state run companies are very slow to customer service:gun_bandana:
Don't buy JH600 on Taobao as you may find yourself unable to get it licensed later:eekers: JH600 is only directly available from the factory. Any other source may be the one slip through the factory backdoor:naughty:
I may be selling mine at a later date but definetely no at a low price.:lol8:
Cheers,
Franki
Hey Franki.
I note from your avatar that you're in HK, is this correct? I take onboard what you wrote about contacting Li and Jialing directly and will get my assistant to write him an email for me, see if that speeds the process at all. I'm especially careful and suspicious of Taobao, even though I buy many things off there, the bikes although tempting are pretty much all illegally imported/grey market ones, which doesn't suit me at all.
It's a pity I hadn't joined this site sooner and I'd probably have bought the 2004 BMW R1150GS that was for sale for a while here.
So Franki, when do you think you might be selling your JH600? and roughly what kind of price are you looking at? Just to give me some idea... if the timing and the pricing is right I could be a definite starter.
Anyway last two days have been wet and windy as here so no riding for past two days... :rolleyes1:
Cheers
Bikerdoc
Franki,
Have you reviewed your bike in any location on the net? Obviously people are still interested in it as it is the only or one of the only bigger bikes available from China which can be registered here for a reasonable price.
Maybe someone who is familiar with a 90's Tenere or similar would be the best to give an overall objective review of this bike.
If you make it to southern Brazil pop me an e-mail and maybe we can meet up.
Last January/Febuary we drove from southern Brazil to Ushusia (Tierra del Fuego) Argentina, 12,000km round trip and in 2008 to Machu Picchu Peru, 8,500km round trip. Next July/August we will fly to Canada and make our way across Canada (planes, trains and automoble)
:thumbsup:
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Originally Posted by Franki
Hi,Quote:
Originally Posted by bikerdoc
Li told me he has got your e-mail but he passed it to Export dept. to have it translated and hasn't come back yet. I would encourage you to send him another one in Chinese to speed things up.
I haven't made up my mind to sell my JH600 yet. When I do, I shall let you know.
If it is getting too cold and wet up in Ningbo, come down to HK where it is warm and dry. The 2009 HK Bike Show is on this Sunday.:riding:
Ride on,
Franki
ZMC,Quote:
Originally Posted by ZMC888
I have done extensive review on the JH600 but on Chinese bike forums only. In general, JH600 is your only choice for China if you want a legal mid size touring bike at a reasonable price. Can't compare it with any international name brands unless you also compare the cost of purchase. As mentioned, I have done over 34,000km on it and it is still capable of carrying on for a long long time. Ride my threads on ADV Rider and you will see most of my travels on it.
I will definitely contact you when the time comes closer and the travel schedule is more or less firm up.:popcorn:Quote:
Originally Posted by blazeafar
Hey FrankieQuote:
Originally Posted by Franki
I had my assistant talk with a couple of people at Jialing about the JH600. They seemed okay over the phone, the going price for one is rmb29800 which is the same price as someone on taobao is selling them - I think he might have someone he knows to source from at Jialing factory, as he's selling parts too. We made contact with the local traffic PSB about the license plate and as long as Jialing have the manufacturing quality certificate (or whatever it is) then it can get a plate here.
One of the guys in the group I ride with from time to time has one, he has had to replace the front forks (not sure the reason why) which was done under warranty.
Am still thinking about it, mainly as all the BMW F650/800gs or R1100/1200gs that I find are illegal imports that either don't come with any plate or a questionable plate... still searching though.
Since it's winter time (cold spell came on pretty rapidly and its been raining almost non-stop for two weeks), no rush I guess...
Pity about the HK bike show I would have been a starter for that, but had other things to do. Have ridden Ningbo-Shanghai return twice in the past month, but now the weather is shiet. So it's back to my car for the time being.
I've uploaded some photos to the beginning of my intro and also added a couple of dozen photos to the Galleries, more to come...
shiny side up
bikerdoc
:scooter:
The price you were quoted is for 2008 Asia spec. model. There is a 2009/2010 model with some modifications which is a lot more expensive. It all depends on what you want.Quote:
Originally Posted by bikerdoc
Delivery lead time usually is about 30 days, so you can plan ahead when you want your bike.
Here is a couple of photos of me test riding the 2010 JH600P when I was in CQ pass summer.
Ride on,
Franki
Hi Franki,Quote:
Originally Posted by Franki
Okay so do you have a list of what the modifications are for the 2009/2010 export model? Aside from the flashy lights and police colour scheme, are there other colour/light combinations available? HAHAHA!!! (Joking) :naughty:
When you say more expensive, what price are you referring to? As I see it, 元29800 is already getting pretty expensive for this kind of bike inside China. After all we're referring to a Chinese made, Chinese brand of motorcycle... that produces low horsepower and uses fairly routine and oldish technology... there's no fancy technology on this bike... IMO
If I could lay my hands on a KYMCO Xciting 500 with ABS, that'd be worth the money.
Cheers
bikerdoc
:riding:
http://www.kymco.com/upload/CTConten...ingAFI_big.jpg
A Kymco Xciting 500? It's no more powerful than the Jialing, plus it's automatic so can't effectively apply it's power when you demand it. It can't go off-road effectively either! Lame, but that's just IMO. I've never understood scooters, other than being cheap and for new riders or very mature riders. Super scooters confuse me even more. :confused1:
Plus it's probably only made in Tai***, and probably isn't exported to the mainland. :eek2:
Quote:
Originally Posted by bikerdoc
Hi Bikedoc,
I shall leave the sells pitch and prices to the Jialing sales people. Please check with them about what you want to know about the JH600. They get paid for doing this:lol8:
I think you have a poor understand of what is going on in China. Jh600 is your only choice for that price range or you can go buy a legally imported BMW if your demand is so high. I will never buy a JH600 anywhere in the free world but for China, this is it. Take it or leave it.
You have not yet travelled to the northwest or southwest of China and may not know the road conditions there. Trying to make your way through on a big fancy scooter? You are asking for it. Here are 2 photos to show the roads in Yunnan. Thought not all are like this.:riding:
Cheers,
Franki
Happy Sunday Franki,
Went to the local Jialing dealer here in Jiangmen yesterday & paid down/ordered a black JH600 which should be delivered within a month :thumbsup:
I have been reading the posts about this bike & decided it was "the one" for what I want here in the PRC :riding:
I've been reading about the modifications and am most definitely interested.
I live in Guifeng Garden in the mountain pass between Xinhui & Jiangmen just East of Guifeng Mountain. GPS coordinates 22°33'8.44"N 113° 2'8.65"E.
A most fascinating thread. The JH600 is a stunningly interesting machine. I like the Austrian link with the engine design and Bosch elecs and fuel injection. Mr Franki is obviously a very handy guy to know! :thumbsup:
For those, like me, new to this thread who have an interest in techno matters, there is some quite extensive pictorial info on Jialing's web site (click here) termed an "eyes feast". Couldn't have put it better myself. :lol8:
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Originally Posted by Bob S
Hi Bob,
Congratulations about your new purchase.
I am going to Kaiping Dec. 7-8 to get my XTR250 licensed. I am not sure if it is anywhere near you, but if you would like to meet up and talk JH600, we can try to reach each other. I won't have internet access where I am on the road. I have left you my China phone no. in your PM box.
JH600 is the first mass produced 600cc class bike from China and I am happy it has received much interests in this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by davidqc
I first came across this classy machine in a post by the good 'frochetto' a few months ago in another forum. It stirred a lot of interest there. It more than deserves the attention it has received. MMmmm...if I had BMW shares I'd sell and buy Jialing. The so called 'quality' bike manufacturers need to be worried, and if they are not they should be! :naughty:Quote:
Originally Posted by Franki
Sent my mobile to your private mailbox. I'll call you this PM. The JH600 ordered is black & hope to receive lter this month.Quote:
Originally Posted by Franki
Hey, Franki, thanks for sharing your rich experience with the JH600 over the past couple of years. I'm based in Shanghai and I'm excited about this bike as an alternative to imports for long trips into rural China. I gather from your comments that they are just now building up their dealer and support network inside China, so I'd like to know whether they've yet got any dealer footprint in Shanghai. Or do I need to deal directly with the factory?
I'm in California at the moment, racking up a lot of miles on a Kawasaki KLR650, which has plenty of similarities to the JH600. I'd like to contact Jialing before I return to Shanghai after the Spring Festival. Can you suggest who would be best to approach at the factory, or in Shanghai? Mandarin is fine.
I'm also very curious about OEM and aftermarket parts for the JH600. A bike like the KLR650 that has been around for 20 years with few changes is extremely well supported in much of the world, and you can always find original, OEM and aftermarket parts, both new and used, almost anywhere. I'm guessing this is far from true for the JH600, and China is just cutting its teeth with recreational motorcycling, so what do you do for parts and modifications? Are you forced to always fab these yourself, as you did with your nice green faring? Or are suppliers starting to spring up?
Any good Chinese-language forums springing up?
I look forward to meeting up with you somewhere in China some day, and riding together.
best regards,
Jeff
Quote:
Originally Posted by Franki
Hi euphonius,
I don't think you're going to find many aftermarket options for any of the Chinese motorcycles currently available. The factories can barely manage parts documentation, and none of the models sold here have enough volume to get the attention of accessory suppliers. Franki has a lot of inside support at the factory level, his engineering experience and patience help in getting the manufactures motivated to make stuff. Unfortunately, it takes a lot of time and effort to figure these things out, and most people just don't have the energy. But... if you like to tinker and are willing to put the time in, a good welder and CNC shop will be able to help.
I think http://www.motof.net/ is one of the bigger Chinese forums, but Franki might know a few more.
Be interesting to see how you and Bob S do with the Jialing :popcorn:
Cheers!
ChinaV
Hi Jeff,
I have replied to your e-mail. I am helping a few JH600 owners to modify their bikes for long distance touring and a bit more fun to ride around. I have managed to get an exhaust muffler and a rear shock manufacturer to tune their product to be suitable for JH600. There are many other modifications that can be done to JH600 just as I have informed Bob earlier and I would be happy to tell you also. Go read the e-mail I have sent.
Good luck with your purchase,
Franki