Sherpa, TRex, Roketa 124cc Street Bike MC-38??

Barnone, very cool. I've seen the little motorcycle with sidecar on a few websites. None of them specified whether they are street legal or not. Sure looks like fun though! Since you had a Ural, you are an experienced rider of sidecar rigs. Had a friend named Dave that worked parts at Destination HD in Tacoma with me. He was a huge, and really nice, gent. Not fat or overweight at all. He could not find a motorcycle that he and his wife could ride together, so he got a Ural sidecar rig, and loved it. Of course, he quickly became very good at "flying the sidecar"!

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And what is so difficult for wives not to comprehend this!!??

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Mine thinks I am having an affair with one of my bikes out in the garage.

Well, I guess I can't complain. Back in 2007, and for a few years, I had three motorcycles at the same time. First, a 2005 Kawasaki KLR650, and a 2007 Royal Enfield 500, and the third was a 2007 Yamaha XT225. Later, I traded the KLR for a 2006 XL883 Sportster. She never whined or complained.

Its only said in jest, she is glad that she isnt a football widow.

So, you ordered one of these also? Where did you order it from? I was looking at a website with them, and it said it has a 28" seat height. Also a 55 mph top speed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6pNSrWNgNQ

Needless to say, we want to hear all about both of these new bikes you ordered.

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The reliability of the DAX 125cc as proven in the thread, the tire cost and availability, as well as 'trexuk's' review seem to have made the choice for you! Your link to that sub-$900 one would be the natural choice.

I would guess that if you still had battery power, and had some lights on, and the scooter did not start, it might make you panic if you know very little of bike mechanics (including basic stuff). You might think 'major repair'. That is how one would go about getting a $100 deal like in the thread.

trexuk--I bet you would feel more "out of proportion" riding the other little mini that Skyteam makes (not sure if Lifan used to make these?)

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At any rate--would love to hear about yours even though I envision it probably is not too different from the CT/DAX clones with the same engine (I believe you have/had one of those, too?)[/QUOTE]
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Barnone, very cool. I've seen the little motorcycle with sidecar on a few websites. None of them specified whether they are street legal or not. Sure looks like fun though! Since you had a Ural, you are an experienced rider of sidecar rigs. Had a friend named Dave that worked parts at Destination HD in Tacoma with me. He was a huge, and really nice, gent. Not fat or overweight at all. He could not find a motorcycle that he and his wife could ride together, so he got a Ural sidecar rig, and loved it. Of course, he quickly became very good at "flying the sidecar"!

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The local kids love to ride in my sidecar so I had to get another one. Supposedly it is street legal but I can always ride it as a liquor cycle here in Western North Carolina. Plenty of out of the way paved and gravel roads here in the mountains to ride.

I think they show the top speed of the sidecar rig as 25mph. I probably should not even look at those. I've heard that for an old geezer biker that's long set in my ways, it could be a disaster trying to ride a trike or sidecar rig.

http://youtu.be/HPIY_CfbyEg

Here is the crazy 85 mph run:

http://youtu.be/HrmHAp1VaE4

[QUOTE=birdmove;71023]I think they show the top speed of the sidecar rig as 25mph. I probably should not even look at those. I've heard that for an old geezer biker that's long set in my ways, it could be a disaster trying to ride a trike or sidecar rig.[/QUOTE
Yep, I noticed the 25 MPH speed before I ordered it. Plenty fast for what I intend to use it for which is ride kids around here in the mountains. I sold my Ural which I used for that fun so the mini sidecar will fill in.

I've been riding for almost 60 years and adapted to my Ural sidecar rig just fine. You can do it if you want to. Definitely different from a two wheeler.

And them riding through Huntington Beach, California, or somewhere in that part of Orange County...

http://youtu.be/nTTY9K5AerI

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Here is the crazy 85 mph run:

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Details on engine mods, please.

I have stopped by their shop last year when my wife and I were passing through Huntington Beach, Calif as they are a few miles away in Moreno Valley, Calif because I had friended them on facebook after watching some of their videos. We did not get into mechanics too much, but I believe they use the 140cc engines as a base on their performance minis. Here is their direct site:

http://www.bixbymoto.com/

I would suggest to contact them. I know you are far more mechanically inclined than me, so would know what to ask to 'pick' their brains

The above site show stock bikes for sale, not their custom offerings, at their posted retail prices. I have felt that their prices on the above site and on Craiglist seem a little high, but you have to take into consideration these are California certified Skyteams. On Craiglist, they also have an OTD price on the CT clones--again geared towards local Californians buying a California-legal bike. The rest of us in the other 49 states can buy the sub-$900 CT Skyteam on that site Birdmove showed us!

culcume,
Thanks for the info.
I got noticed that the ST125-8A has shipped. Should be here next week.
Fast service.

No shipping notice on the 110cc 4 stroke Retro Motor Bike with Cargo Sidecar.

The sidecar bike is an Ice Bear? I am curious as to the quality of the Ice Bear replicas vs. the Skyteam replicas--Ice Bear sells a CT70 replica, too, and a couple other 'monkey' bikes. They have a bike which is a cross between a monkey bike and a scooter

http://www.icebearatv.com/Monkey-Series14

Here is a video for an Ice Bear sidecar, although I wish he made it longer:

http://youtu.be/qB_bSTKOYLM

Have you seen these? I had posted a few videos on chinariders showing these jeeps in action

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http://www.icebearatv.com/product/paz125-1

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The sidecar bike is an Ice Bear? I am curious as to the quality of the Ice Bear replicas vs. the Skyteam replicas--Ice Bear sells a CT70 replica, too, and a couple other 'monkey' bikes. They have a bike which is a cross between a monkey bike and a scooter

http://www.icebearatv.com/Monkey-Series14

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MANGO-P (PBZ110-1P) monkey sidecar.
I've seen that mini jeep before but don't know who makes it.

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The sidecar bike is an Ice Bear? I am curious as to the quality of the Ice Bear replicas vs. the Skyteam replicas--Ice Bear sells a CT70 replica, too, and a couple other 'monkey' bikes. They have a bike which is a cross between a monkey bike and a scooter

http://www.icebearatv.com/Monkey-Series14

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Should have them both before too long.

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Here is a video for an Ice Bear sidecar, although I wish he made it longer:

http://youtu.be/qB_bSTKOYLM

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Neat, thanks for the video.

The ST125-8A arrived today and I started putting it together. Looks good with decent owner's manual. Big gas tank. No instructions on assemble but I've done this before. Has a charcoal canister plus air injection system so must be 50 state? Forgot to order magnetic drain plugs so I just did that.
Photos tomorrow.
Got some extensions on turn signals which I will remove. A 18mm locking nut on front axle, luckily I have a socket to fit since I don't have a open or box end 18mm wrench.

Great! Looking forward to your photos, and a ride report too.

Finished putting her together late in the day as I was working on other projects.
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She would not start because no spark. Dug out the electrical diagram and first thing I noticed was the side stand switch. Side stand must be up to get spark.
She fired right up with side stand retracted and off I went for a ride. Sure likes to wheeley. Seems to have good power.

Man, sure is a lot of hoses and crap for the CARB stuff. My first experience with all that. There is even a hose on the float bowl drain port that feed the gas some where. Need to make a plate for the air injection port and remove the charcoal canister. There is no vent on the gas cap so what do I do?
Just drill a hole in the cap and add a one way vent?

Great looking bike! It is Skyteam, but is it via SSR (not sure who else markets the Skyteam Z50 replica since I know Skyteam USA does not)? Ice Bear has a couple similar bikes, but based on other Honda mini trail bikes. In fact, your upcoming Ice Bear sidecar is based on a different Honda mini bike.

Here is another version:

http://www.powersportsmax.com/produc...ducts_id/17533

Don't know if it is a Skyteam, Roketa, or just what. Certainly it has a different gas tank.

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Finished putting her together late in the day as I was working on other projects.
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She would not start because no spark. Dug out the electrical diagram and first thing I noticed was the side stand switch. Side stand must be up to get spark.
She fired right up with side stand retracted and off I went for a ride. Sure likes to wheeley. Seems to have good power.

Man, sure is a lot of hoses and crap for the CARB stuff. My first experience with all that. There is even a hose on the float bowl drain port that feed the gas some where. Need to make a plate for the air injection port and remove the charcoal canister. There is no vent on the gas cap so what do I do?
Just drill a hole in the cap and add a one way vent?

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Did the MSO come with,or do you have to wait for it?

I'd check the fuel cap.There should be a check valve in there to keep vacuum from building up.If there is a vent line for the tank,just extend it down below the engine.That's how my yz125 was done.I replaced it with a cap and tube.I plugged the old tank vent with a vacuum fitting.

MSO did not come with the bike.
See MSO Request at http://gokartsusa.com/gokartsusacust...0603-1437.aspx for info.
Also need to fill out this and email it.
http://gokartsusa.com/pdf/customerwarranty.pdf
Definitely no vent or check valve in the gas cap. I need a vented cap or maybe I can fit a one way valve to the tank vent hose?

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I have one and will try it.
BTW there is also a fuel shut off valve on the carb in addition to the one on the tank.
Bummer: no trip meter.

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Here is another version:

http://www.powersportsmax.com/produc...ducts_id/17533

Don't know if it is a Skyteam, Roketa, or just what. Certainly it has a different gas tank.

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Mine is a ST125-8A with the 8 L tank. I think the one you have a link to is a ST125-8 with the 4L tank.

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MSO did not come with the bike.
See MSO Request at http://gokartsusa.com/gokartsusacust...0603-1437.aspx for info.
Also need to fill out this and email it.
http://gokartsusa.com/pdf/customerwarranty.pdf
Definitely no vent or check valve in the gas cap. I need a vented cap or maybe I can fit a one way valve to the tank vent hose?

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I have one and will try it.
BTW there is also a fuel shut off valve on the carb in addition to the one on the tank.
Bummer: no trip meter.

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Thanks for the info.

That sux about the fuel cap and trip meter.You can always do the math and carry a liter of fuel just in case.I know there's not a lot of fuel stops around Robbinsville.