ChinaV's new MCM QingQi 250!!!

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Originally Posted by barnone

Felix,
While you are talking to Qingqi ask about this one.
"This is "The Rock" QM250GY-2D, an adventure touring based version of the QM250 slated for mass production sometime in 2011."
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What is the question?

The link to the story of the "The Rock" has most of the details about the bike. Getting solid info out of QingQi is almost impossible. I tried for months to purchase one, only to find out it's just a prototype. Many components are the same as the Liger, but the frame, seat, gas tank, headlight, console, and bodywork are designed for touring. The Tourfella boxes are made by a guy in China, not QingQi. The bike has been on display in trade shows for an entire year, and also appears in many advertisements on the web and in Chinamotor magazine, yet only a single unit was ever made. When they told me "sometime in 2011", I took that as "don't get your hopes up of actually getting it during the 2011 riding season".

Cheers!
ChinaV

ChinaV,
I was hoping that if enough people ask about "the Rock" it might encourage the bike to be built.
Thanks,

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Originally Posted by barnone

ChinaV,
I was hoping that if enough people ask about "the Rock" it might encourage the bike to be built.
Thanks,

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If one person would order a 40 foot container full, they would be done even faster :lol8:

Cheers!
ChinaV

oooo, so many goodies that I now have to buy! Was just about to start some research on jetting my Qingqi, to get rid of the aforementioned popping on deceleration.

Also the instrument cluster will be worth whatever hassle it takes to get it hooked up. Looks pretty snazzy back lit, and a trip meter is always a plus!

The oil cooler is nice, but is it needed? Also wonder if they played with the oil pressure to compensate for the cooler and distance the oil has to be pushed (if that's even necessary considering the size).

Can't wait to see how this build goes! And love the color!

ChinaV,
Looks like your Liger is a very nice bike and a big improvement over my Qlink XF200. Appears that the pickup for the digital speedometer is still off the front wheel. Can it be toggled from KM to MPH for speed and miles for odometer?

The oil cooler and the rear rack are nice added touches.

http://www.qingqi.com.cn/en/products...gce.aspx?id=90 shows EFI?

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Originally Posted by barnone

Appears that the pickup for the digital speedometer is still off the front wheel. Can it be toggled from KM to MPH for speed and miles for odometer?

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The pickup housing is the same as the older cable driven one, with the exception of the cable being replaced with two wires instead of a drive-cable running to the speedo. A couple observations about the console. There's one button on the face of the LCD that lets you set the clock and reset the trip meter, there's another button on the back, but you need to take the console off the bike and use a pen to access it. I played with it for a while, but could not toggle the unit from KM to MPH, the only thing it appears to do is to set the wheel size. Could do more, but I will need to ask QingQi for some instructions. For some reason, mine keeps re-setting the clock every time I turn the bike on and off. I'm planning on replacing it with a Trail Tech Vapor digital unit. If anyone has done this on a QM200 I would be interested in hearing about it.

http://www.trailtech.net/media/prote...h_PDA_w550.jpg

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Originally Posted by barnone

http://www.qingqi.com.cn/en/products...gce.aspx?id=90 shows EFI?

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I have seen the Liger with EFI and I'm sure it's something that will be available soon. At this time, I'm more comfortable with the carburetor, as there aren't too many Chinese bikes with robust EFI systems.

Cheers!
ChinaV

The first changes I made were adding the rear rack and replacing the footpegs, same as the ones I used earlier in this thread. Next it was on to the handlebars for some improvement. The stock bars are very heavy steel and the bend just doesn't work for me. So....

Off with the old ones.

http://www.contactdi.com/Processed/1090093.jpg

Added some CNC aluminum 7/8" (22mm) to 1" (25mm) adapters.

http://www.contactdi.com/Processed/1090095.jpg

New 1" (25mm) handlebars... black of course.

http://www.contactdi.com/Processed/1090096.jpg

New control levers mounts and new brake master cylinder/reservoir. These are the CNC type with adjustable levers.

http://www.contactdi.com/Processed/1090098.jpg

And some Acerbis style handguards.

http://www.contactdi.com/Processed/1090105.jpg

http://www.contactdi.com/Processed/1090104.jpg

That's all for now, done with the easy mods. It's going to be a while before the rally fairing, seat, wheels, luggage system and racks are sorted out.

Cheers!
ChinaV

Looking good. In the process of painting, or photoshopping the handguard brackets?

Looking good mate ..that is one pretty machine..:riding:..hard to not be happy with that..:thumbsup:

Yeah i was wondering what was going on with that black bracket too!

Oops...Ya caught me photoshopping. I was thinking about sending the mounting bits over to the anodizer so they don't stick out so much. Also not really happy with shiny plastic of the handguards, would like to see if I can get them to match the flat black of the rest of the bike. It's hard being anal retentive...:rolleyes1:

Cheers!
ChinaV

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Originally Posted by david3921

Well, after checking around based on the above recomendations I found these;

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Foot-...=p4506.c0.m245

I'll see how they fit and post the results. Thanks guys.

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david3921,
I never did see a report on the Ebay rubber topped pegs. Did they fit and were they worth the price? Source?
Thanks,

Sorry barnone, I forgot all about that. Yes, they fit. There was a problem with the left one, though. When I took a ride after the install, I noticed that something wasn't the same. I compared the two pegs from the top and noticed they weren't in line. The left one (shifter side) was off a bit. It was tilted down. I fixed it by drilling two small holes and installing inserts to level it out. I don't know if the pegs were off or the bike was. As for performance, I did notice the vibes went down quite a bit. I would take some pics but the bike isn't with me. It's stored in my Mom's garage for the winter.

Wow -After seeing ChinaV's Pics on the NEW Dashboard and or replacement ideas with the Trail Tech Unit, I have to have one or the other for my Bike. Chinav can you get a part number for this NEW Dashboard, and a source to get one? How about a List of Part Numbers for Trailtech and everything you would need to convert this over? Part Numbers and sources of product are key. Nice bike - I really like that. It has All the improvements and more that I would want on my Qlink XF200. Thanks for all the info and great Pics.

Andrew :)

Andrew, there is a link in V's thread to the Trailtech. Here is the link to the one pictured;

http://trailtech.net/indicator_dashboards.html

I've got this on my list of "wants". You can find them on Ebay , also. Just search for Vapor in Ebay motors.

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Originally Posted by david3921

Sorry barnone, I forgot all about that. Yes, they fit. There was a problem with the left one, though. When I took a ride after the install, I noticed that something wasn't the same. I compared the two pegs from the top and noticed they weren't in line. The left one (shifter side) was off a bit. It was tilted down. I fixed it by drilling two small holes and installing inserts to level it out. I don't know if the pegs were off or the bike was. As for performance, I did notice the vibes went down quite a bit. I would take some pics but the bike isn't with me. It's stored in my Mom's garage for the winter.

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David,
thanks.
I ordered some off Ebay that are suppose to fit XJR400. Will see and report back.

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Originally Posted by ChinaV

Oops...Ya caught me photoshopping. I was thinking about sending the mounting bits over to the anodizer so they don't stick out so much. Also not really happy with shiny plastic of the handguards, would like to see if I can get them to match the flat black of the rest of the bike. It's hard being anal retentive...:rolleyes1:

Cheers!
ChinaV

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Haha. Yeah, but that anal retentiveness makes your bikes looks so much better than ours! As far as the handguards; if you have access to a media blaster (which you probably do http://www.mychinamoto.com/images/sm.../rolleyes1.gif:frump:) then you could have a go at them on a real easy pressure with fine media, and might come up with the desired look without having to sand/primer/paint.

Can anyone tell me which Trailtech Model will work with the Qlink XF200? I see the Dashboard is actually a seperate unit for the computer itself. I am very intrested in swaping out my OEM Dash with the Trailtech Computer but want to do it right the FIRST Time. Appreciate any feedback on this - becuase I want to do it soon. 56 Days till Spring! Today reach a high of 30 degress! Wow - Heat wave!

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Originally Posted by JTC

Can anyone tell me which Trailtech Model will work with the Qlink XF200? I see the Dashboard is actually a seperate unit for the computer itself. I am very intrested in swaping out my OEM Dash with the Trailtech Computer but want to do it right the FIRST Time. Appreciate any feedback on this - becuase I want to do it soon. 56 Days till Spring! Today reach a high of 30 degress! Wow - Heat wave!

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Would like to know that myself, but guessing the universal model can be made to work with the QingQi. Maybe send them an email and ask about which unit they would recommend for a DR200. Seems the main differences between the kits is water cooled vs air cooled and inverted forks vs standard forks.

Cheers!
ChinaV

E-mailing them NOW! Gotta Know! I have to do this! This is a Must have for me! Hahahahahaha - I'll report back once I get an answer fro Trailtech........Andrew

ok here is what I just sent to Trailtech -

Hello -

I own a 2009 Qlink XF200 (same exact engine as a Suzuki DR200) my bike has inverted or upside down forks. What model would you recommend? I also want the dashboard unit for this as well. Please let me know if you have additional questions about my bike as I can send you all the detail and pictures of it you like. I belong to a webforum called MyChinaMoto.com and many users all own this bike and are very anxious to find out which unit you may recommend. I know I am ready to purchase one and get it rolling. Below is a Picture of my dashboard now, but want to replace it with your unit. Also a few pics of the bike itself.

Thank you very much and I look forward to your response.

Sincerely,

Andrew Fornal – President
http://www.jamestowncomputer.com

http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/...0/DSCF1498.jpg

I'll keep you all posted with the reply

Andrew

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Originally Posted by ChinaV

Oops...Ya caught me photoshopping. I was thinking about sending the mounting bits over to the anodizer so they don't stick out so much. Also not really happy with shiny plastic of the handguards, would like to see if I can get them to match the flat black of the rest of the bike. It's hard being anal retentive...:rolleyes1:Cheers!ChinaV

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I found the ideal method of matching everything on the Kinlon, ChinaV - starting with the glossy black which I prefer to bright colours but still don't like much - number 1, leave it in the sun for a day or two and the glossy black plastics will crack and fall off exposing the matte black tank and frame, number 2, leave it in the rain for a day or two and everything metal will rust and blend in together, number 3 a few more rides through the bush and everything shiny is scratched up and matte black which is what I shall do when my shiny black barkbusters arrive!

If all else fails, spray too much special 'sticky' grease on the chain and it will unstick and cover everything the mud hasn't!!!! Oh yeah and you can get aesthetic bits of matching, matte black congealed plastic as well by letting your GF ride as pillion and melting her very expensive Adidas and handbag on the exhaust pipe.

Its NOT hard being a slob ...:rolleyes1:

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Originally Posted by JTC

ok here is what I just sent to Trailtech -

Hello -

I own a 2009 Qlink XF200 (same exact engine as a Suzuki DR200) my bike has inverted or upside down forks. What model would you recommend? I also want the dashboard unit for this as well. Please let me know if you have additional questions about my bike as I can send you all the detail and pictures of it you like. I belong to a webforum called MyChinaMoto.com and many users all own this bike and are very anxious to find out which unit you may recommend. I know I am ready to purchase one and get it rolling. Below is a Picture of my dashboard now, but want to replace it with your unit. Also a few pics of the bike itself.

Thank you very much and I look forward to your response.

Sincerely,

Andrew Fornal – President
http://www.jamestowncomputer.com

http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/...0/DSCF1498.jpg

I'll keep you all posted with the reply

Andrew

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Andrew, I see that you don't have even a KM on your bike yet. Is this picture up to date? If so, I feel for you brother as you haven't been able to ride at all.

That would be correct David - As fast as I recieved it, The snow started and has not showed much of any disappearing anytime soon. Got it about the end of October 2010. This is an up to date picture......:(

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Originally Posted by JTC

That would be correct David - As fast as I recieved it, The snow started and has not showed much of any disappearing anytime soon. Got it about the end of October 2010. This is an up to date picture......:(

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Come on mate, get some of these for the ice. http://www.mv-motorrad.de/cosmoshop/...,,10107,,,.htm

Normal knobbies are fine in snow btw, I rode all sorts of road and offroad bikes in winter in Wales, ice and snow. Just go no more than 30mph, keep upright round bends, use your feet sometimes as outriggers, forget you have a front brake and allow much more stopping time. It is great fun and safe if you learn a bit and have ridden mud and sand. Keeping WARM is the ONLY hard bit, you need a face mask for sure. Give it a go and PLEASE wear a helmet cam while you do .....

Not going to win any beauty contests with the addition of the handguard extensions and mirrors, but at least my hands will be well protected, and I can see more than just shoulders in the rear view.

http://www.contactdi.com/Processed/1090126.jpg

http://www.contactdi.com/Processed/1090128.jpg

An extra Vista Cruise throttle control I had lying around fit after a few minor modifications... Viola! cruise control.

http://www.contactdi.com/Processed/1090135.jpg

I've been using some handwarmers for the last month on my Yingang 250. I like the grips, and for ¥60, figured I might as well throw a set on. It's one of those little things that makes a huge difference on cold days.

http://www.contactdi.com/Processed/1090140.jpg

Cheers!
ChinaV

That bike is looking stunning, those hand guards make the bike look better as far as I'm concerned, I think some nicer mirrors would do the trick though (I got some really nice looking angular KOSO ones from Taiwan, there's a guy here in Shenzhen that sells them for 150Yaun a set, I've got them on my moped, and they've got that whole if someone shines brights at you it cuts down the reflection thing going :) )

Here's a pic I took a minute ago...

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A handy guy like you could find a way to mount them on those long stalks without an issue, especially since these can be fully disassembled:

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Thanks for the tip Serpentza, I was going with function over form on the mirrors. I got some new solid CNC ones for my Yingang 250, they're probably the coolest of the bunch, but ¥200 a pair is expensive, and they don't give a great field of view.

http://www.contactdi.com/Processed/1090079.jpg

The dude in Shenzhen selling the Koso for ¥150 a set is a wanker, they cost ¥30 for blue glass and ¥20 for clear in Guangzhou :eekers:.

Cheers!
ChinaV

I personally would like to find some NEW Mirrors for my Qlink - I don't want bar end mirrors becuase I just don't like the look. I want some mirrors that do NOT have such a long stem. Anyone know the thread size for these mirrors on the Qlink? That info may help me find what i'm looking for. Usually these are either 8mm or 10mm - Not sure so chime in if you know.

Andrew

China V - Those morrors look pretty nice, do you know If I can find them in the states or ebay possibly? Thanks

Andrew