Dong Fang DF 250 RTB Bobber Information

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Originally Posted by bowtiewagon

I think your gonna love it. I Love my ride. I am lucky enough to be able to ride year round living in Houston.Yeah it does get cold here some days..32 in the morning..sometimes colder.. probably when Jan and Feb roll around I will be catching a ride into work with the wifey..but overall still good weather year rond.
I think most of us besides aside from the weather, are putting a few miles on the bike and working out the bugs.Like this morning I noticed a strange sound in the motor..and found that the nuts holding the exhaust pipe to the head had rattled a bit loose.. just tightened them up and put some locktite on them.i plan on changing the nuts out I do not like the type they use.. had the same type on my scooter and was constantly tightening them..until i changed them. The roads in this area are very bumpy..all over and can rattle your teeth out..especially with the bike being a hardtail. but overall no issues thus far..knock on wood..
Has anyone had any issues with running out of gas? Seems the way the tank is designed..it does not pick up all the fuel..and I have found myself twice,needing to go to reserve to make it to the gas pump.I am thinking about a new tank..but posibly adding another pickup to the tank for the right side and run it into a "T" to mate with the left line.There is always about a little less than a gallon left in the tank when i fill up.been keeping tabs with the odometer..and I have been getting around 48 to 56 miles before i need to fill up..but again..still fuel in the tank.
gonna change the oil this weekend..and put in the magnetic drain plug I finally got.
On another note...anybody know anything about those LED light strips..can they be added to these bikes.. and is there anything I would need to do to the electrical system?Since the bike is black..I want to be seen a bit more at night.

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i ran out of gas and had to go to reserve once, but i haven't been keeping any tabs on how much gas i'm using. the gas left in your tank when you fill up is the reserve, it picks up from the top until you only have a half gallon left then when you switch it to reserve it picks up from the bottom.
louisiana weather lets me ride year round too, january and february are our coldest months too but even then we still get days that are in the 60 to 70 degree range. i don't really know about the LED light strips but i'm thinking of switching to LEDs for my lights( head lamp, tail lamp, and blinkers) i think they draw less power.

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Originally Posted by hooliganboy

i ran out of gas and had to go to reserve once, but i haven't been keeping any tabs on how much gas i'm using. the gas left in your tank when you fill up is the reserve, it picks up from the top until you only have a half gallon left then when you switch it to reserve it picks up from the bottom.
louisiana weather lets me ride year round too, january and february are our coldest months too but even then we still get days that are in the 60 to 70 degree range. i don't really know about the LED light strips but i'm thinking of switching to LEDs for my lights( head lamp, tail lamp, and blinkers) i think they draw less power.

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ya know..come to think of it I think i knew that about the tank..I do not know what the heck I was thinking..but then again..thats the norm. Glad I mentioned it here..or I would have been going nuts for nothing.
I have a set of tail lights i bought off ebay..they have the Brake,tail,plate light and turn signals all LED and are awesome in a nice little package. I had to get them fixed though..seems the rough roads broke the black ground from the pc board and I had a girl were i work redo all the wires on it for me and they are way better now.

I ran out of fuel, went to reserve and filled at the next station. It only took 1.2 gal? Earlier post did show an interesting design. Hard to change, we have a great looking P-nut tank. But we should expect at least 150 miles between fill-ups.

Ride, welcome, let's see your bike in January. Most complaints regarding the Bobber is the importer's paperwork, service/tech help & warrenty. The bike itself is great. Go into it not expecting any company help (but from us & your own skills) & you won't be disappointed.

awesome, thanks guys, as soon as i get the bike i will post pics or vids!! any one know if scooter depot sells the flat black??

To the new comers.If you guys do a search on the site,there's a fellow with a modified DF that has the real old school look.If I find it,I'll post a link to the thread.

BINGO FLAMINGO!http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/sh...50RTB-build-up

yea i saw that, that thing is pretty sweet.!! Ive been all over this thread lol. Can you put thicker/wider tires on this thing?? and also where is the best place to get flat black?? ive noticed scooterdepot is a good spot, but no flat. :/

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Originally Posted by ridelikethewind

awesome, thanks guys, as soon as i get the bike i will post pics or vids!! any one know if scooter depot sells the flat black??

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Thats where i got mine from..flat black all the way around..even the bars came flat black,although i changed them out for a set of nighthawk cruiser bars..

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Originally Posted by ridelikethewind

yea i saw that, that thing is pretty sweet.!! Ive been all over this thread lol. Can you put thicker/wider tires on this thing?? and also where is the best place to get flat black?? ive noticed scooterdepot is a good spot, but no flat. :/

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i also got mine from scooter depot like bowtiewagon, but mine didn't come with the black accessories (mirrors, blinkers, lights and such) but i didn't order the flat black bike, i ordered the gloss black so that might have something to do with it. just FYI, if you plan to take the stripes off don't get the glossy black because the stripes are clear coated over. you'll be able to take the DF250RTB stickers off the sides of the tank but the stripes are there for good.

New guy here (not new to cycles) who is thinking about getting either the DF Bobber or the CCW Bobber. Can anyone tell me the pros/cons of either one? The dealer I will be purchasing from sells both and the CCW is about 800 dollars more. Could use some help in my decision making process. Thanx in advance!

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Originally Posted by Preacher

New guy here (not new to cycles) who is thinking about getting either the DF Bobber or the CCW Bobber. Can anyone tell me the pros/cons of either one? The dealer I will be purchasing from sells both and the CCW is about 800 dollars more. Could use some help in my decision making process. Thanx in advance!

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Preacher,
You will be fine with either the DF or the Heist. The heart of the bike is the engine and it is the same and it appears to be very good. Pick the one that appeals the most to you.

You will have to make up your own mind.

Does your dealer have a web site?

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Originally Posted by barnone

Preacher,
You will be fine with either the DF or the Heist. The heart of the bike is the engine and it is the same and it appears to be very good. Pick the one that appeals the most to you.

You will have to make up your own mind.

Does your dealer have a web site?

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Thank You for your reply...I like the look of the DF better and the price. I like the CCW's options such as the airbag seat shock. For about 800 less I think I can live without the parts options. I had originally only intended to ride my Scoot but the videos of both the CCW and DF Bobbers runnin down the road plus the great price have given me the urge to "Shift" again.

http://www.heluvascooter.com/

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Originally Posted by Preacher

New guy here (not new to cycles) who is thinking about getting either the DF Bobber or the CCW Bobber. Can anyone tell me the pros/cons of either one? The dealer I will be purchasing from sells both and the CCW is about 800 dollars more. Could use some help in my decision making process. Thanx in advance!

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well i'd say if the extra $800 isn't a big deal, go ahead and test drive both and see which one suits you best. personally i like the stripped down look of DF, the heist has a little more polished look but with a few upgrades the DF can look can as nice. if you just want a nice little bike to scoot around town on i think you'll be pretty satisfied either way you decide to go.

can someone recap this whole posting to give me the mods done to improve performance for the bobber? I have the 250rtc and plan on doing a few mods:
34t rear sproclet, ngk sparkplug, racing sparkplug harness from autozone, adding more ground wires so the bike cranks up easier

Did I miss anything? And when I say performance don't think I am treating this bike as a pocketbike and I redline every second or drive crazily around the streets, no, its just that I do a lot of highway /interstate driving in orlando and speed limit is 50mph with everyone going about 55-60. on this bike I have maxxed out at 75 ( I weigh 150 ) and even when riding at 50 it feels like I might be pushing the bike too hard, any info? also at 60 mph I am in fifth gear at 5000rpm, anyone have info on gear change ratios? such as speed/rpm/gear. I have talked to the owners of http://china-moto.com/cm/ and other members on their site and they are selling custom aluminum sprockets for the rtc and rtb, and they have a lot of knowledge about these bikes also. One of the moderators and owners, almonp, posted that with a rear 33t sprocket on his rtb he was able to do 75 in 4th gear, but in first has to rev up to 2500rpms to get it moving without stalling. What do you guys think?

Matt,
Why don't you start a thread about the DF250RTC? We have the same engine in the DF250RTB but after that it's a different bike.
Take posted MPH on the net with a grain of salt.

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Originally Posted by Preacher

Thank You for your reply...I like the look of the DF better and the price. I like the CCW's options such as the airbag seat shock. For about 800 less I think I can live without the parts options. I had originally only intended to ride my Scoot but the videos of both the CCW and DF Bobbers runnin down the road plus the great price have given me the urge to "Shift" again.

http://www.heluvascooter.com/

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I don't see any prices at that site. Is it a real dealer or just a drop shipper?

What is the price of the DF250RTB delivered? What is the price of the Heist delivered?

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almonp, posted that with a rear 33t sprocket on his rtb he was able to do 75 in 4th gear

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Only if he drove it into a mine shaft.:icon10:

I'm running a JTS 35 tooth with the stock front sprocket. Even without doing any jet work, I still think it's pretty much the ideal size. It's a bit close ratio'd in 1st & 2nd, but once in the upper gears, this little bugger really hums along. For parade speeds, or just toolin' around the pits, 1st and 2nd are spot-on.

/M

yea I will, but right now I am also studying for finals at college but expect this thread up in a few days :)

Does the jts sprocket fit right on?

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Originally Posted by barnone

I don't see any prices at that site. Is it a real dealer or just a drop shipper?

What is the price of the DF250RTB delivered? What is the price of the Heist delivered?

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they must be a drop shipper because if you click on it under the DF250RTB"s picture it goes directly to Sunny Sports page.

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Originally Posted by mattbujor

Does the jts sprocket fit right on?

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i've got the 35t jt sprocket on my bike, it fits right on with no problem. the item numer is JTR279.35

did you take any links off? what can you do now in 4th or 5th?

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Originally Posted by barnone

I don't see any prices at that site. Is it a real dealer or just a drop shipper?

What is the price of the DF250RTB delivered? What is the price of the Heist delivered?

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The prices are there you just have to look real close...for instance if you click on 250cc the next window will show prices at the top. The site is still a work in progress as they just changed their name. I know the owners. The heist is the MSRP of $3190, The DF is around $2400. It is a real dealer with a showroom and service dept. They have a fantastic Layaway plan that I take advantage of. Below are the 2 scooters I purchased there. The shop is less than 1 mile from my House in Oldsmar so I am there quite often. Wednesday I will be starting the Layaway for the DF Bobber. My son and I have a pretty decent auto repair shop in our garage that will translate nicely to the scoots/cycles.

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Originally Posted by mattbujor

did you take any links off? what can you do now in 4th or 5th?

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i've taken out 2 links, if my chain stretches a little bit more i'll have to take out a 3rd because i'm running out of room on my rear brake cable. i'm switching to 5th gear just past 35mph and i can get up to 65mph easily, also i'm 300lbs, so at half my weight it should be pretty zippy for you. also these speeds may not be accurate it's just what's indicated on my speedometer, i haven't checked it with a GPS.

By the way this is a fantastic thread. I have learned a lot just by reading the posts. I had intended on just riding my 150 scoot but after taking the Endorsement class on that 250 rebel I got the urge for something similar and I love the looks and Price of the Bobber.:eekers:

Preacher,
DF250RTB bobber price
250cc - 2000 Dropship
140 tax - 200 setup - 150 dmv total 2490

Heist bobber price 3195
223 tax - 200 setup - 150 dmv total 3768

Heist is $1278 more according to my calculation assuming my assumptions regarding set up,dmv,etc are valid.

I would save the $200 set up fee on the DF if it was me. Takes about two hours to remove from the crate , put together, and add oil/gas. Looks like you have the experience, tools, and room in your shop to DIY.

The thing about the CCw bobber that gets me is the play on words. The call it an american designed bike. which would leave most folks thinking that it was built here. It is essentially the same exact bike as the DF250 but with frills..I looked at both in my trek to buy..and the mechanical side is the same,they just upgraded on the gas tank and paint offerings. so..it leads me to believe that thye have purchased the standard DF250 in bulk,and modified the looks to create the CCW.Nopt knocking the idea..but someone who may not read the info correctly would think they are buying american "made" and getting chinese..seems a bit misleading to me.
Anyway..the bike is all about the motor..so if you want the added poshness of it..then maybe you want to get the CCW.I myself am a "Rat bike " fan and thats why I went the the flat blck bike. and it leaves so much room to turn it into anything I want for much less.

On another note..since most everyone on here has the bike...I was wondering if there is a link to like comparable engines for it.I think it is a Lifan 250cc motor but I am not sure.Just wondering what a replacement engine would cost for it. always like to stay prepared. I was paying about $350 for new motors for my 150cc Titan GY6 scooter motor and went through three total over the 28,000 + miles I put on it. Also places to buy stuff like Brake pads,or rotors if needed,Tires,things of that nature. There are not any places that i know of here in Houston that cater to the import cycles.I mean I had a rough time of it localy with the stupid battery..

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Originally Posted by bowtiewagon

The thing about the CCw bobber that gets me is the play on words. The call it an american designed bike. which would leave most folks thinking that it was built here. It is essentially the same exact bike as the DF250 but with frills..I looked at both in my trek to buy..and the mechanical side is the same,they just upgraded on the gas tank and paint offerings. so..it leads me to believe that thye have purchased the standard DF250 in bulk,and modified the looks to create the CCW.Nopt knocking the idea..but someone who may not read the info correctly would think they are buying american "made" and getting chinese..seems a bit misleading to me.
Anyway..the bike is all about the motor..so if you want the added poshness of it..then maybe you want to get the CCW.I myself am a "Rat bike " fan and thats why I went the the flat blck bike. and it leaves so much room to turn it into anything I want for much less.

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Excellent point...I have a feeling thats the case as far as the CCW vs DF. They look to damn much alike. I like the raw look of the DF better anyhow. I know I will catch some heat for this but frankly for my first motorcycle buy I would rather let someone else that I trust and knows what they are doing put the bike together and pay the 200. My experience is in cars not scooters/cycles. Once I tinker with them for a bit then I will assume the repair duties.

yea I see what you mean, did you have a chain breaker or sawed off/grinded off the links? Yea I did a speed test on my 250rtc and it was always 5 below, for ex. it would say 50mph when in fact I was going 45mph

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Originally Posted by bowtiewagon

On another note..since most everyone on here has the bike...I was wondering if there is a link to like comparable engines for it.I think it is a Lifan 250cc motor but I am not sure.Just wondering what a replacement engine would cost for it. always like to stay prepared. I was paying about $350 for new motors for my 150cc Titan GY6 scooter motor and went through three total over the 28,000 + miles I put on it. Also places to buy stuff like Brake pads,or rotors if needed,Tires,things of that nature. There are not any places that i know of here in Houston that cater to the import cycles.I mean I had a rough time of it localy with the stupid battery..

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One perk of living here near Tampa is we have a parts importer right here locally I have heard.