Shineray X1 - mixed CG engine to bike?!

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Originally Posted by humanbeing

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CG = 20mm http://www.motorfans.com.cn/bbs/view...uthorid=217223 & ~ 20deg http://www.motorfans.com.cn/bbs/view...=217223&page=2
CB's deg is little bit different (curve & angle is close enough in daily use, so guys said they're interchangeable)

http://www.motorfans.com.cn/bbs/view...uthorid=397365
【不知道点火器怎么配凸台 那是瞎改】Don't know igniter & "boss" length relation = reckless
【不懂曲线的 那是蒙改】Don't know curve pattern = on LUCK
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"进角" http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=520273100881 | "定角" http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=520273320490

CDI cames in plain old "fixed" & "adv" . Just buy the dc-cdi (adv. version) & forget those hassle...

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Hi can you give me a link on Taobao for a good CDI? Mine is the rounded plug type - Might look to change it and see as I fitted a upgraded coil to the bike as well.
I'll get a new plug tonight, seems after fixing the wires the bike revs a bit better but still bogs down.
I've fittted a Walbro PZ27 carb to it and a "upgraded" airbox from the newer VCT/newer engine - My carb might be a bit out but surely not that bad? What is the commin jet and needle setting for a CG150? Idle jet size? and turns out?
I really need to tidy others SCREW ups and set things correctly or I'll just end up chasing my tail.
Get the basics right with correct settings is a good start.
What should the plug gap be as well?

"DC" lacks proper info. Each maker had their own "1?V->2??V" soultion. AC-CDI should close enough to some of these http://fanyi.baidu.com/transpage?que...to=en&render=1
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"DC" black box eats these (info stolen from 1 of the maker)
9 to 16V (DC) ||(14.5 +/- 0.5V) Standby: <50mA | 1500 rpm <250mA | 8000 rpm <500mA

Huh?
Makes no sense to me at all
Best Buy a genuine unit then? What is my bike? AC or DC?
I'm not getting clear direct replies and it's very confusing cause it means I still am none the wiser

Use a battery -old 1 from ebike shop [Sealed ie. no spill/ Don't suits for electric motor≠ can't use small drain purpose) is enough.] = "cleaner" DC = less chance messed up components inside CDI
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CDI is a mystery box cuz we lacks oscilloscope & "pro" tools...
Layman's method: (DC-cdi) 1.There's 2??v output [IGN "leg" in CDI] 2. Input current within limit(s)
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"upgraded" airbox = needs more fuel = NEEDS "fine tune" ...
PZ27
http://fanyi.baidu.com/transpage?que...to=en&render=1
http://fanyi.baidu.com/transpage?que...e=url&render=1
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Spark plug gap 0.6-0.7 |

There not interchangeable, a DC fed AC will burn up and an AC feed DC will not energize properly.
Stators are all AC generators, however they are not all wired the same, some are for AC systems and some are for DC systems.
AC
http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/a.../stator6-1.jpg
DC
http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/a.../Stator_22.png
These three Yellow poles go to the RR
http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/a...o_magneto1.png

I had 240 volts AC where the pics say 50-100 v AC black with red trace to earth

Mine has basically the same colors as the first pic
Yellow green pink black/red blue/white

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Originally Posted by MJH

There not interchangeable, a DC fed AC will burn up and an AC feed DC will not energize properly.
Stators are all AC generators, however they are not all wired the same, some are for AC systems and some are for DC systems.
AC
http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/a.../stator6-1.jpg
DC
http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/a.../Stator_22.png
These three Yellow poles go to the RR
http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/a...o_magneto1.png

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So both stators can work assuming wires are correctly connected? Or must I still use the correct stator to my ignition system?

Attachment 18247

This is my CDI


Attachment 18248

This is my old coil - I've put on a performance orange coil same style


So the first pic you gave is the stator that's in the odd replacement engine, is that correct? No black/red wire fitted that had 240v AC when measured to ground

I am leaning towards you having an AC Engine and a DC bike at this point, based on you saying the Red/Black off the replacement stator (AC) was not connected. That due to the Bike (DC) not having a red and black connection. I am thinking the one yellow lead is only sending a third of the power needed to the RR?
What plugs on the bikes CDI are getting what wires…I am really curious. What is he using in the two prong for the CDI?

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Originally Posted by MJH

I am leaning towards you having an AC Engine and a DC bike at this point, based on you saying the Red/Black off the replacement stator (AC) was not connected. That due to the Bike (DC) not having a red and black connection. I am thinking the one yellow lead is only sending a third of the power needed to the RR?
What plugs on the bikes CDI are getting what wires…I am really curious. What is he using in the two prong for the CDI?

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With no battery fitted in getting 13.5v at idle and 15v at high rpm

The blue/white trigger wire goes to the 4 prong plug

2 prong has a black and a purple

What wires do I need to check and how to determine what I have? But charging is fine or am I missing something?