The rummored Shineray X5 is coming

Yes, thanks for that. I read that post last evening and it definately turned me off Asiawing. I don't want to bring the bike home in the back of a pig truck. I had a 57 Chevy for many years and everytime I wanted to go somewhere I was in the shop with it. A person gets tired of that quickly. I am looking forward to seeing one of the X5s when they are in the showroom. Most of my riding will be within 50 km of home. I don't anticipate touring. Hainan Island is a small place. The JH600 is too much of a street bike for me. I will go places where it won't. I need knobby tires and tall suspension. Definately not a lot of choice out there but from reading the forums Shineray might be the most reliable.

Hi MCM Guru's .....
I would like to volunteer buying an Shineray X5. Does anyone has a clue whether the bike is on sale already (?) and if so ....WHERE in the BJ region.
From 58.com I found a dealer for Honda/WuYang in BJ Northwest 5th Ring. He said you could test ride the bike (at least Google translate says this ???)
But unfortunately after visiting the shop no X5 was there and the lady told me something about "in 4 month" or "April" .... not sure.

So please support my volunteer ambition with your input. I promise i would write a Quality/Experience report.

What about that shop on 5th ring you've mentioned?

I will contact them tomorrow to get hopefully some more information.
Anyway they have no Shineray bike there (no X2X, no X5)
I let you know what they say.

@Barry: You told me once about a dealer in Baoding (??) Do you have a contact?

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Originally Posted by ShuBen

I will contact them tomorrow to get hopefully some more information.
Anyway they have no Shineray bike there (no X2X, no X5)
I let you know what they say.

@Barry: You told me once about a dealer in Baoding (??) Do you have a contact?

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I was at the factory in October...it is easily reachable from the city center, 40 minutes in Chongqing. You can buy from the factory as that is what they told me. I also think it is not expensive to fly to this city because of its size and many flights there. I have bought two motos this way..factory visits...it is fun! :taz:

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Originally Posted by kikikillercat

...You can buy from the factory as that is what they told me.

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WARNING...would be very careful buying from the Chongqing factory directly as I know of three bike owners right now that bought MIC motorbikes *250-600cc* directly from the factories in Chongqing and face huge challenges getting their motorbikes registered in Shanghai or nearby provinces like Jiangsu / Zhejiang and the local agents refuse to assist as they bought motorbikes through the factories.....

The factory direct purchase might work for backwater villages / towns / provinces but in the big smoke Shanghai its seems very-very difficult and troublesome to get this kind of bikes registered.

@TB .... i agree with that. The problem in BJ will be most probably the same as in Shanghai. I would prefer a dealer somewhere here around. I really wonder that I could not find a Shineray dealer in BJ. (Maybe i should start a new business :-) )

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Originally Posted by TB-Racing

WARNING...would be very careful buying from the Chongqing factory directly as I know of three bike owners right now that bought MIC motorbikes *250-600cc* directly from the factories in Chongqing and face huge challenges getting their motorbikes registered in Shanghai or nearby provinces like Jiangsu / Zhejiang and the local agents refuse to assist as they bought motorbikes through the factories.....

The factory direct purchase might work for backwater villages / towns / provinces but in the big smoke Shanghai its seems very-very difficult and troublesome to get this kind of bikes registered.

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yes you are right...one of my bikes was shipped to my house...still no problem...the second was shipped to a dealer who basically was paid as if i had bought it from him directly...that way the factory keeps the dealer happy. in both cases i paid full price for both bikes.... you can arrange with the factory to ship it to a dealer of your choice.

i am hoping to have test ride at least once down the road.....
Thats why i am looking for a dealer that might have this bike in his shop.
... ok , we will see.

I can't believe how you people manage in CHINA. You have money, yet you have terrible difficulties in getting good bikes or any bikes at all, not to speak difficulties regarding driving licenses.

I would become mad.

the secret is to not use logic in a logic free zone:lol8:

The Shanghai / Pudong shop shown on the attached business card shifts apparently the largest volumes of Shineray bikes in greater Shanghai region.
Might be worthwhile to give them a call to check and enquire about the X5 or they might be able to point you in the right direction about Beijing Shineray X5 dealers / distributors....

edit: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=...id=19674456938

Yesterday I had test driven a Shineray X5.


Have to say, the test bike was at least 1 1/2 years old and obviously neglected.
However, it still could give some ideas about built quality.
I heard additional that the latest manufactured models have increased quality level.

positives:
a) all in all processing is quite well, especially with regards to frame welding seams
b) I found an excellent processed aluminum swing arm (hopefully the material is also sufficient)
c) recognizable display even in sunlight from behind
d) taim engine with enough torque and 30HP, somewhat reluctantly turning over 6000RPM
e) good Kenda tires
f) big tank (19L if I'm not mistaken)
g) in my opinion a comfortable seat in width & padding
h) nice sound of dual exhaust
i) brakes are OK, but could be a bit more aggressive
j) front and rear adjustable suspension elements


negatives
k) cast aluminum parts for passenger footrests too weak (see broken left hand side)
l) tank sticker gettting lose at the corners.

Seat height I guess is approx 85cm with good upright sitting posture. (I'm 186cm tall)
IMO nice & lightweight bike as a touring bike completely sufficient if its proven to be reliable.

I brought up easily to 95 / 100km/h but was limited as I tested it on a city road.
In TaoBao I found crash guard & Alu-cases


I am going to buy one and keep you updated


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great looking bike! hope the quality is good.

I think its good looking too. Would like to have it ;)

In China they think Shineray is not one of the best quality bikes. Not like Haojue, Bentian, Zongshen and a few others.

Here some pics of the new bike in the showroom in BJ. My apologies for the photo quality. Some parts that previously weren't are coated/painted now: swing arm, exhaust cans, heat shield, luggage rack and foot pegs.

Tires are the Kenda K761's

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its a good looking bike but i bet it weighs a ton.
They seem to have subscribed to "lets make it better by adding more stuff"
Any congrats to those who have bought one and i hope it goes well for you

Btw. Shineray is disliked by chinese riders because the bike only has an english name

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its a good looking bike but i bet it weighs a ton.
They seem to have subscribed to "lets make it better by adding more stuff"

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IMO, they missed a spot in this "adding" process.

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I have been watching this bike with interest.

As I am intending to buy an offroad bike that I can also use for occasional weekend tours this looks not bad.

But on the other hand they have the X2 which seems to be a good bike by now. Can anybody point out why to get an X5 over the X2?

X5 has slightly more power but is heavier, so acceleration should be similar.
Handling of the lighter X2 should be better, while the X5 might be more comfortable.
Look of the X5 is cool, no doubt. But it is considerably more expensive. (Just for a few more plastic parts???)

To me it looks like a X2 is more fun for less money. And by dong a few adjustments to luggage rack, maybe gearing and suspension it should be just as suitable for touring. Am I missing anything?

I would say the X5 is a dual sport whereas the X2 is a enduro, I have a supermoto and I hate doing long distances on it as its not designed to dot hat its designed for messing about being a enduro with 17'' wheels on, really depends on what you will do more I spend most my time in rural or urban environments which suits a supermoto but if I had to do long distances often i would choose a bike with better range and comfort while the engine is barely over idle at higher speeds which a smaller engine would be straining to keep up to.

Kennon

I bought a X5 today. In fact the X5 is for travelling I would say. 19L tank, comfortable seat. The X2 is for offroad fun. About 8L tank, slim seat. Compare the front forks and you find a real solid offroad fork on the X2 and a dual sport fork on the X5.

Ok, while not having riden a dual sport, I see the difference between a JH 600 and a X2 of cause. The X5 just looked to me as if you disassembled a few plastic parts it would be the same like a enduro. But if you say it clearly is a dual sport its fine.

I guess then I will first get a X2. I want a offroad fork and don't mind the seat. And the streets here dont allow criusing above 80 for long.

Anyways thanks for the input and helping with my buying decision, will keep an eye on the X5 anyways.

i'm sure you'll find some epic dirt roads to use the X2 on must do a ride report with the obligatory pictures of a enduro on over looking a city.


Kennon

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Originally Posted by ShuBen

I bought a X5 today. In fact the X5 is for travelling I would say. 19L tank, comfortable seat. The X2 is for offroad fun. About 8L tank, slim seat. Compare the front forks and you find a real solid offroad fork on the X2 and a dual sport fork on the X5.

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Congrats, but...

http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthrea...out%20pics.jpg

... and if anzbody could verify the weight of the X5?

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMzI4NzYxOTA0.html

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I bought a X5 today. In fact the X5 is for travelling I would say. 19L tank, comfortable seat. The X2 is for offroad fun. About 8L tank, slim seat. Compare the front forks and you find a real solid offroad fork on the X2 and a dual sport fork on the X5.

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please advise us of the cost of the X5 and did the dealer have it in stock or you had to order...photo good too he he
thanks

I like it, I want it, just waiting to see first technical problems like the broken fork in Long March. ( No just kidding I'm sure everything will be fine)

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ok guys. message understood. stop beating me...
X5 + Jing A plate = 73.000 RMB
42k for the plate
26k for the bike (carburator version, but registerable in BJ)
2.1k vehicle transfer tax.
550 RMB for the plating procedure
the rest for some other stuff, but forget what it was exactely