Re: Shineray 重庆鑫源摩托车股份有限公司
Maybe no "Shineray" per se, but this is pretty common design among Chinese manufacturers. Every reputable manufacturer (and even those who aren't) has this "Honda" CD 70 clone in his portfolio, some, like those "Shinerays", fancy looking, some anything but. And those are cheapest item in their price lists.
Re: Shineray 重庆鑫源摩托车股份有限公司
Copy of the Honda Benly 50S, Shineray is also offering them with the 50cc.
http://moto.zombdrive.com/images/hon...ly-50-s-12.jpg
http://world.honda.com/news/1998/2980220b.html
I am not a big fan of the double spoke rims, I do like the redesigned taillight plate assembly though.
Its a shame if they are not well made, they look real cute.
https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i3/2...!262505545.jpg
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As I realize, "Benly", CD, CL and God knows how many "Hondas" share that same stamped frame.
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When they hide the frame with a large air box it is then an HA03 Type, as in the CD90/Benly 90S Models, the open frame and 50cc is the A-CD50 Type with model names like Benly 50S, SS50, CD50…. Yes Honda made allot of versions with the stamped frame.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4213/...f422fa04_z.jpgHA03 - Copy by mjhirz, on Flickr
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Those Hondas have something going for them - simplicity maybe - they do look attractive.
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At the time, mopeds and mokicks like those "Hondas", were small displacement... how to say... mainstream form factor, like scooters are nowadays.
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Looks like retro classics are making a huge comeback. Even in China.
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Are you test ridding it?
No, unfortunetly Romet doesn't like my reviews. They marketing says everywhere it is a Polish brand, and Polish engineers who design their motorcycles.
They say, they have suppliers all over the world, in China too. But all motorcycles are polish desin and polish brand.
They gave me once a "Romet" (longjia), and latly Keeway RKS (because it is known is chineese).
I do not even dream of test other motorcycles with "Romet" badge.
As i published the photos form Yingang website about the white motorcycle (CD70) with the romet sign on the engine they sent me Pre-trial letter
Re: Shineray 重庆鑫源摩托车股份有限公司
You should have responded with a request to tour their Polish factory.
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Yes, they have a facility in Debica on the Wistoka river.
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I enjoy instructing people what to do when they do not know what to do.
Romet should distribute for SWM...
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I noticed on the EPA certification list that Shineray received certification for one of their bikes on the 2016 list. I wonder if the bike will actually come here? The two models listed are the XY 400 and the XY 400 GY
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http://sportiquescooters.com/compone...torcycle-g400c
Its not encouraging that Genuine has not advertised these bikes yet.
Re: Shineray 重庆鑫源摩托车股份有限公司
Shineray has a new website, the site has a bunch of bugs.
Also their sales have dropped by 65% from last year as of June 2016. They fell from the 22nd largest producer in 2012 to the position of 40th.
They altered their copy of the Yamaha Tricker, maybe to avoid conflicts and to make it more their own?
http://admin.shineraymotor.com//Syst...1662485012.png
Their Tricker is their entry level enduro, they also modified the design of the X2 as well.
http://admin.shineraymotor.com//Syst...1671192329.png
It seems that they decided to focus on key segments, they added the Yorker to their retro line to maintain offerings at entry level.
http://admin.shineraymotor.com//Syst...6617164451.png
They have three categories, SWM is one and within it they list only the 650. Which seems to hint they intend to offer these in the Chinese market?
http://admin.shineraymotor.com/Syste...1691162539.png
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For the entry level EU market SWM will be offer the once Husqvarna, as their SWM SM125R and ES125.
Specs on the Husky version.
Principal Features – SMS4 and TE125
• Single cylinder engine, SOHC, 4 valves, 4 stroke, liquid-cooled, 124.45 cc
• Electric start
• Maximum power 11kW (15HP) at 9000 rev/min
• Maximum torque 12,1Nm at 8000 rev/min
• Six speed gearbox
• Rated Euro 3 emissions compliant
• Steel chassis
• Long travel suspension
• Multilink rear suspension with adjustable preload mono shock absorber
• Instrument panel complete with LCD display
• Bodywork graphics with in-mould plastic decoration
• Floating calliper disc brakes
• Wheels: 21" and 18" for the Trail version and 17" for the SMS4
• Saddle height 900 mm for the Supermoto version, 930 mm for the Trail
• Rear tyre 140 mm for the Supermoto version
• Colours available: white/red for the TE, white for the SMS4
http://www.swm-motorcycles.it/ufiles...jpg?1447685510
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I think they've changed their Tricker to avoid conflict with Yamaha, especially where both bikes get to be exported (e.g.: Russia). As for the website, yeah, it needs a lot of optimization and doesn't scale well in Safari.
What touched me most was the "Scranbler"
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I wonder how much effort it would have been to ask a local laogai to proofread the bike names at least...
And then there is this irrevocably happy couple against the background of a rotting CG or a CG clone.
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I wonder how much effort it would have been to have someone with a bit of photographic knowledge take pics for the website...
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Steve I think that is a daughter and father and they are attempting to capture the change in a generation?
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MJH
Steve I think that is a daughter and father and they are attempting to capture the change in a generation?
no....all chinese women look like daughters ,,,t:riding:
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no....all chinese women look like daughters ,,,t:riding:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4287/...8f8e2820_z.jpg
by mjhirz, on Flickr
It comes off like a daughter greeting her father, the Jialing version centered in the image is odd.
Re: Shineray 重庆鑫源摩托车股份有限公司
Shineray up graded its website, however it is still buggy, it does not fit properly into the screen cuts off products? The site was not properly tested?
Shineray dropped its production numbers, however they still seem to have a floundering identity.
These are not new...however worth mentioning.
X-Tricker
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4217/...b4e38d3e_z.jpg
X-Tricker by mjhirz, on Flickr
X2
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4231/...a637ff39_z.jpg
X2 by mjhirz, on Flickr
X-Trail
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4260/...35c4b95a_z.jpg
X-Trail by mjhirz, on Flickr
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Re: Shineray 重庆鑫源摩托车股份有限公司
Hi MJH
Was in a Shineray shop today in Kunming yunnan province and there had the new 250 X-Trail for sell cost 8800 RMB.
Had to get one for that price pick it up Monday.
The bike is as your picture posted but less the nobs tyres but was fitted with more of a 50/50 tyres.
Here are a few pictures taken today.
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Not expecting to much from the bike but who knows it could be a good runner.
As for the X-Trail I am some what confused as you say it not a new model .
Well from what the dealer said it's so new it can't plate the bike untill Shineray send all the correct Docurments out.
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That is really low cost $1,280.00, is it EFI?
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That is really low cost $1,280.00, is it EFI?
Yes I considered the price to be very good for what you are getting. No EFI. :scooter:
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A 250cc with a carb (not EFI) it's unlikely to meet Ch!nas Euro-IV emission standards and therefore I'm curious as to what certification and documentation Shineray provide for this model to facilitate legal road registration and plating?
Highly doubtful that this model if 250cc could be plated as a 250cc inside Ch!na...
Perhaps Shineray have developed this model of the back of the X2 as a dumbed down and cheaper variant for some export markets in sub Saharan Africa and parts of eastern Europe or such like?
It will be interesting to see how this develops.
YMMV
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As I said the shop didn't have the correct documents from Shineray to allow the owner the plate the bike .
As soon as I have the paper work then I can confirm what CC Shineray are declaring the bike to be.?