Anyone know where I can pick up one of these decals without calling CCW?
Attachment 8696
Printable View
Anyone know where I can pick up one of these decals without calling CCW?
Attachment 8696
Attachment 8697
Caffeinated Heist...
Normally I'd wait until the handlebars are installed but what the hell. These arrived today- Norman Hyde M bars! Can't wait to put them on. Sometimes it's the little things that make your day.
Attachment 8708
Sharp! What rise, pull and width measurements did you decide on?Quote:
Originally Posted by xetaprime
Quote:
Originally Posted by xetaprime
Xeta, how tall are you, what is your inseam measurement, and what adjustment position have you put your seat in?
I've never heard of anyone else having your problem with toe position under the shift peg. I suppose if you're short or have a short inseam, and if your seat is positioned in the rear farthest position, then you'd really have to reach for the forward controls, thus putting your feet in an awkwardly horizontal position.
I know you're a total newbie to the moto world, so one more possibility occurs to me: is it possible as a noob you're simply overthinking every little quirk? I know I've been there and done that.
Hey Gun Rod,
These have usable center 5 1/4", end to end 28 1/2", actual rise 3/4" flat surface to bottom of pullback, 4" rise, and 9 1/2" pullbacks. According to Steadfastcycles where I bought them. $56 including shipping. Cheaper by $17-ish than ebay and just fit cable wise with no mods. Phew. They're on and tomorrow will test. Seriously not much difference but I like the look better. Warning to anyone who hasn't changed their bars- you'll need to drill a hole on each side for the controls to lock in place.
Attachment 8710
nicholastanguma ,
I do have short legs and inseam of 30-ish? Tried moving the seat back and forward- all the way forward where it is now. I could be over thinking it, but no. One thing I am is good mechanically and believe me have a lot of bad traits but I can't ride with my feet under the pegs comfortably. My mod fixed that but removed them today until I can get some stainless steel or something. The edges of the plates just started rusting (barely) damn Florida. So, it could be just my definition of comfort? When I started looking at many other bobber images on Google it just seems either the angle is different or there is more height to the pegs. This really is my only gripe so far and wish it was possible to switch them out or adjust them more without trouble. But the design does appear unique...
Watching Gardo ride in the PIT 'Ride' video it looks like he does what I don't want to do- which is move my foot in and out when shifting. He rides with his foot out at an angle.
Attachment 8709
Just an observation. Maybe you could confirm if you read this Gardo. And as a noob it's one thing I didn't want to have to think about learning to shift for the first time. Been riding scooters for years though blah blah blah :)
Found a good photo as another example.
Attachment 8711
Attachment 8713
Okay, now I think I completely understand. Unfortunately, your desire not to have to move your foot when shifting simply won't be possible with these forward controls. In fact, in all my years of motorcycling I've rarely seen any forward controls that didn't require the rider to do this--it's just the nature of the beast. Forwards are not mid controls, and therefore must necessarily give up some ergonomic advantage. Since you've got a 30" inseam, which is actually not short at all for a woman (or even a guy, really), I don't think your problem is stature. It's just noobishness to forward controls.
Personally, I strongly dislike forwards for the very reason you've been experiencing, and it's why I got Tom Weaver to start offering mid-controls as an option on his customs. But they're not a bolt-on swap option, only a custom fabrication option, so unless you're ready to shell out some green I think you'll just have to acclimate yourself to the Heist's stock configuration.
With due respect, just moving my pegs up an inch fixed my problem and I posted a picture of someone riding the DF250
Attachment 8714
or
Attachment 8715
All that needs to be done is change the angle or elongate them (worked for me). But changing the angle requires welding which I've never done. Anywho...
In this latest Heist review by Motorcyle.com http://www.motorcycle.com/manufactur...iew-91304.html they mention the forks suffer from a "tragic amount of stiction."
I realize Tha Heist is a Chinese-built and Chinese-sourced machine built to an American pricepoint, and that unavoidably means quality issues that are appalling when compared to Japanese or European manufacturer standards, but is anyone's machine actually afflicted with "tragic" amounts of stiction?
I haven't ridden it long enough to tell you but that article also mentions
The 21-inch front wheel also wants to flop into corners at slow speeds, complicating parking lot maneuvers.
And maybe because I'm used to smaller bikes I noticed this flop the first ride. But knowing this, being aware, you just don't let it happen. Am I wrong in thinking most bikes have some flop?
That's I think the worst review out there that I've read about the Heist. Many positive ones though.
Best,
Xeta
I have been riding my heist every day for the past month or so and it is a blast and runs like a champ normally. Just yesterday I started having a few issues with my bike just dying out while coming to a stop or stopping at a stop light and can feel it idling real low right before it dies out. When it dies I start it up with a little rev and keep on going. I have messed with the idle, cleaned out the carb and just today drained all the gas and cleaned the petcock making sure there was no contaminants. I was hoping some of you heisters can help me out a bit with pinpointing the problem. I recently added a new race carb by weaver rides and G&D exhaust and not sure if that has anything to do with it. Has anyone had anything like this happen with their heist? I would really like some input. I will be changing the oil tomorrow to see if that helps. Any suggestions on oil? Please let me know of anything I can do to fix the problem. I love this thing and might be thinking of selling it if I can't get it squared away. Please, any help would be great.
Wish I could help Tacoma and don't know where everyone has gone :(
That said, I'll be ordering a seat tomorrow
Attachment 8783
Can't wait!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tacoma
I"ve got this too.
My bike is brand spanking new. About three weeks old. Took it back to the dealer, they fiddled a bit, and declared it fixed. still happens, but not as much.
as a side note, as i was leaving the dealer with my newly fixed, brand new Heist...
was waiting at a red light when an idiotic driver came slowly up behind me and crunched in my rear fender.
I have a total of ZERO "trouble free days" of riding my bike.
I changed the oil Monday night with full synthetic and it seemed to run better but still stalling out on me. I turned the idle way up then it probably should be and it hasn't happened again just yet but it has only been 2 days so we will see today what happens. I posted the bike on Craigslist to see if I had some offers and I have a lot of people interested. Thanks for the help and I love the seat btw! I hope some of the saviors on this site tune back in soon to give us some input! I hope all works out well with everyone else and their bikes.
Question for all owners and ex of Tha Heist
Is this bike worth keeping for the long run? I'm not worried about the issues I had with the forward controls cause easy enough to fix for me. Today while looking at my bike as if for the first time I noticed that the speedo was crooked. I haven't bumped or dropped the bike. Not examining things closely enough I opened up the speedo and was disappointed in it's construction- all plastic. I mean all plastic. My Tomos Moped came with a plastic chrome housing but a sealed metal speedo. I discovered that it was crooked because the cable hits the headlight as it leaves the casing- twisting it to an angle. No fix for this. I also discovered that the metal to which the speedo attaches is soft as hell.
I know I could buy a new speedo and make a new mount in the future or whatever but I was going to spend $299 on a seat tomorrow and am now wondering if I should sell this while so new...
So I need a pep talk. Did we pay for the frame and engine but a lot of other stuff is cheap chinese? Don't get me wrong- my 150cc was chinese. Is Tha Heist worth investing in- for the long run?
Thanx,
Xeta
Hang in there. We purchased a low priced bike from china.Quote:
Originally Posted by xetaprime
It's a canvas from which you build.
Yes you will find 'cheap' componets, but otherwise the builder could not sell it for a value.
I have a DF, with more problems than a Heist.
At least you've got Cleaveland Motor works,Pitt and Weaver to help you.
Enjoy & improve.Attachment 8784
Thanx for replying GR. I did know that going in, yet still easy to forget. Believe me I researched this for months before buying it and still wonder if a used Rebel might serve better. But a Rebel doesn't look like Tha Heist! I was a split second away from ordering the DF, after a Heist dealer tried to screw me over weeks before with a rusted-sun-worn Heist being sold as new (take breath here) thank God I didn't accept it (Tempest Cycyles) and they still got $140 for re-stock fee!!!! But after that deal went through I put an order in for the DF and at that same instant PIT Motors came through with a 'new' Heist for me...
Anywho, your bike looks awesome!
Best,
Xeta
I'm feeling a little better now, maybe, so you may have read that earlier I made two forward control spacers to raise the foot pegs. That worked great until I realized the edges of the metal I used started to rust. Early this morning I ordered this;
Attachment 8785
for $11 shipped. Stainless steel should get 2 pieces out of it. Hope the holes match. Will post pictures if it works. Riding with my foot in the shift zone makes shifting easier IMO. I'll deal with the speedo later now that I have seen the insides. And yes, I'll probably buy that Brass Balls seat tomorrow. What the hell.... :0
I've had second thoughts too Xeta and just want to say despite all the problems and fixes along the way I am still very satisfied with my bike. No where else can you get such an awesome bobber style with so many possibilities for the price. It's worth it just for the amount of attention you get. Just today i had a guy ask me if i built the bike myself and was blown away when i told them what it was. I also debated the honda rebel but its not nearly as much fun to own. I say make it your own and the little things that aren't so great will eventually be replace. Btw after turning up my idle a bit more then it seems should be my bike is running much stronger. I will keep personalizing it for me and when things go wrong I will do my best to fix it. The more I learn now the better i will be with others in the future. Maybe some day I could be talking to some guy about the hard tail I built myself.
I've heard both the DF and Heist owners talk about all the attention these bikes get. Bobbers are cool for sure but, this morning I realized that if I wanted to add saddle bags I'd have to move the turn signals and grind down the mount tabs yes? I'd never even thought about that! ARRRGGGH! Saddle bags are a great add-on, what were they thinking? At least with the DF the signals are on the fender... went to sleep feeling better about it and this morning am a little pissed....
And in other news I spent a good time googling speedometers. Wouldn't this look cool on the bike?
Attachment 8793
It's a NOS Bridgestone 200. Wonder how off it would be and if the cable would fit it.
Cleveland Cyclewerks sells Chinese manufactured machines at a low pricepoint. This unavoidably means crap components in lots of areas, as well as shoddy construction. I think one day CCW will have their teething problems ironed out, and that day will probably be when they've established their products as genuinely built in America.
Right now you need to understand that a hardtail Chinese bobber will likely always require tinkering and money. It's not a Honda or BMW. I understand new motorcyclists want to save money wherever possible concerning their first motos (who doesn't?), but take it from someone who's been doing the motorcycle thing for years and years: a CCW machine WILL require money and attention from you to keep going. IT'S A CHINA BIKE.
If you're not willing to keep spending time and money here and there, on this and that, then I suggest you cut your losses and sell if possible. Get a Honda Rebel or V Star 250--there's aftermarket support for bobbing them, or turning them into lightweight tourers, and the online forum support for them is active. Plus, they both have literally decades of build history behind them, so they're proven bulletproof, parts are plentiful and cheap, and any moto mechanic knows how to work on one.
In all honesty, if I were buying a Heist brand new I would:
1) Only purchase from Tom Weaver.
2) Give him a very appreciable chunk of change over the MSRP.
3) Tell him to use that money to literally rewire the entire motorcycle, exchange literally every nut and bolt for stainless equivalents, change out every bearing and seal for anything-but-China replacements, re-weld every bracket and weld that's been proven to break on these machines, and rebuild the entire carbie and motor with his hot rod upgrades and never reuse any of the Chinese gaskets that came stock.
4) Send out the forks to be Ti-nitride or DLC coated to fix the bloody stiction problem.
5) Preemptively fix every problem that's been proven to happen with frequency to these machines. Little things like improperly vented gascaps and un-Loktited fasteners, for instance.
I'm totally serious. And bear in mind I say all this with much love for Tha Heist--it's currently one of my all-time favorite motorbikes.
I TOTALLY agree with your post. As an owner of a V Star250 bobber, I can tell you and everybody else, that NO (low price,under $10,000.00) bike is perfect.
I have put $2,500.00 into mine (above purchase price) and it is close to, but still not perfect. LOL ! But now I can say "It is Mine".
So I ordered a stainless steel hinge I was going to split in two to extend the forward control shift pegs.
Attachment 8804
Here's the result-
Attachment 8805
It arrived lighting fast from ebay! Didn't expect it until Monday and here's the temp fit until I pick up some stainless washers and lock nuts.
Attachment 8806
Attachment 8807
The bolts are Hurricane POMA sidewalk stainless- but will see if I can find some recessed tomorrow. Raising the peg makes a big difference IMO. Holes match the shifter. Only had to enlarge them- cool beans.
Best, Xeta
P.S. Ordered my Brass Balls leather seat yesterday... D'Ohhh!
Update: Stainless bolts from lowes;
Attachment 8810
So, I've been thinking of making my own tail light, something close to but not the vintage Ford light. Yesterday I stopped into a thrift shop and found a stainless steel cup for $.50!
Attachment 8834Attachment 8835
And tonight I ordered a self contained tail light for a Land Rover...
Attachment 8836
It'll be like a rocket version of the Ford something something. Now I just have to wait for the light to arrive from... ENGLAND! Cheap though! Like $10 including shipping. Oh the fun we have :)
My Brass Balls seat arrived today! The front hinge bar fits perfectly! The rear bar is off just a touch and required like 5 minutes of hand filing. All I need now are some nuts and BAM! A most righteous seat!
Attachment 8844Attachment 8845Attachment 8846Attachment 8847Attachment 8848
I love the new seat Xeta. A new seat is one of the next things I will be doing to Tha Heist. i just ordered a new gas cap from CCW and I am waiting on that. I also took a a little time a few days ago wrapping the exhaust pipe and putting on a new MPH speedo from 233 motorsports! Here is some pictures of the bike as of today. Let me know what you guys think with the build so far.Attachment 8857Attachment 8858Attachment 8859Attachment 8860Attachment 8861
BTW has anyone else seen the weaver head for sale on clevelandcyclewerks.com? There is a head done by weaver rides and there is a 300cc piston on there? Details please! I might have to get the head!
As newer members on this thread may not be aware of - there's A LOT of activity on the FB group that Gardo also started over a year ago, you'll most likely get answers quicker over there - since a large portion of CCW owners communicate within this group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ccwthariders/
There's also a forum on www.ccwthariders.com that folks use (as well as this forum) that do not want their info made public, or are just anti-FB.
Just wanted to make in known for the growing CCW Heist community that there are other group options to add yourselves to. Ride safe everyone!
Tacoma, Did your stock wiring fit with those handle bars? Mine barely fit with the bars I put on, but would love to raise them a bit.
Scootdog,
Gave up Facebook a while back and it seems pretty quiet over on 'riders' as well. I would have liked to have gotten Tha Heist back when things were jumping here.
Hate Holidays! I'm waiting on a stainless cup for my new old stock speedometer. I did buy that Bridgestone I mentioned a while back. Not sure why really lol. It's huge! But the cable and cable nut fit right up. Now the question is ratio. Either way, it's a crap shoot. Gambling is half the fun. I don't like the Baja speedo 233 is selling mainly for the external knob...
Xeta, stock wiring bolted right up to the keystone bars. They are stretched as far as they go though. The knob on the outside of the odometer doesn't bug much. I'm just happy to have a trip on there.
Quote:
Originally Posted by xetaprime
The website forum is dead as far as I can tell, and has been for a while. This thread seems to have become mostly newbies asking the same questions over and over, and people whining about the same.
Even if you guys don't ever use Facebook, at least reconsider for purposes of joining Tha Riders FB group. It's used as a forum, not for typical pointless social media blather. There's constant activity over there, and every question you post will usually be answered in much detail in less than a day.