The bike is being sold on Alibaba in a dressed up version they come with 125cc-250cc engines.
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The bike is being sold on Alibaba in a dressed up version they come with 125cc-250cc engines.
Consider this; there is no such thing as Xing Yue; there is Star Moon; of which there really is no such thing. Phonetics would dictate it to be actually Sheng Yueh and that being the correct or more correct translation. Something lost something misinterpreted. The levels the steps to move across them confused and often convoluted. Series of character to one which you may not even have, then how is that pronounced and how on earth do you type it on a keyboard?
What would be the root cause, how many steps are there in converting and conveying? When they are equal then they will be the same. I have no ability to convey even the simplest of Chinese.
Its sad, this very cool looking bike is being sold in quantity on Alibaba with unit costs of $1,000! It could be a very decent bike but selling 100 in the US would be tough….that a $100,000.00 investment.
So Joe Shmo sets up an LLC and warehouse…time to take the XLMCO name and drag it through the mud.
The naked version available….so they sell it in volume and at a discount? The online dealers are being outed and its about time. That’s what they have been paying for these bikes, under a grand and then asking 100% markup on them shipped to your door, if you have or need something after that the perpetual run around.
I would say the Chinese are correct, the US does not and is not willing to invest in distribution. I would not they sell the bikes to everyone and drive the price into the earth. Dumb real dumb.
Just sell them through Wall Mart and tell the party to buy AutoZone or Murray’s and then Jiffy Lube? I want the bike for under $3K and with a 2 year warranty. Buy it online and pick it up at wall mart? LOL
If it needs a part you can order it online through Murrays, then if it need work have repair centers everywhere, they will adjust the chain change the oil and off you go. Charge $25.00!
I am tired of the big dealers they are all crooks, sell the bike direct to the people.
My god that bike for $1,000.00 FOB Shanghai ?
How can you sell all the Tank, Lifan and Zongshen street bikes you gots? DUH! Just throw those away...these are the new improved...need parts buy two! You got pay pal?
There is alot of those types of bikes with the 233cc twin...too many
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What is odd is that all the specs says single cylinder yet I’m seeing two exhaust; the bike above is more than likely sporting a split pipe one into two; I have seen though, specs saying single cylinder and then with pictures of two exhaust outlets on the engine?
Not sure….can or is there such a thing as a dual outlet exhaust chamber design for a single cylinder engine? I believe there is or was in two strokes….but I never come across one of these on a four stroke.
The inaccuracy within specifications has to do with translations and also realms of knowledge. Technical and Chinese to non technical and into English. It get misrepresented and kind of embarrassing or would be if they knew it.
I do not know who these people are…I have nothing against them.
Internet distributer
The bike that David asked about is selling through them and for $3,500 to your door.
Many of the bikes on this site have been moved around I can assure you, I've only been monitoring the market since August 2009 and I been keeping pretty good track of it. I would not be too sure this site is not owned or backed by a Chinese’s investment group? That is all supposition on my part, and I would also assume they are a LLC in the state they operate out of, and that would lead to a phone in an attorneys office.
If each products was linked to a schematic and parts list like the ones used by Loncin Canada.
That would help when the part information needed to be accessed, when necessary, that being for a warranty claim or part order, by a real brick and motor dealer… then the prices would be higher but quality would be traceable. The cost of supporting the system add unit costs.
Each VIN used and associated with a model and a build ID#, the parts all accountable. Then that one thing that’s wrong with that certain model would get resolved.
It’s not that complex, increase the prices and fund a warranty account. Have all three levels contribute to that, the dealer, distributors and manufacturer.
The object is bikes that do not need parts, only wear items. Inventory is a function of the above, and it’s a function of QC.
How do you currently get a part you need…I'll tell you how that works; first you have to take the part off and send it to them, then they figure out what it is and order it from china. If you have a mechanic; they will not play in that game, they will if they are your friend but that really limits people. They rely on web site and blogs to find out what it is and were to get it…man what a pain. If there was a schematic online and with a parts breakdown and attached to a shopping cart it really would make it much less painful.
The point is that no single product line distributor will prevail, they cannot because for a distributor it is about volume and with smaller margins and greater efficiency. They are cutting out the dealers or establishing very small dealers who will never have enough volume to survive. The hand off and hand back and side stepping it all is apparent, you can see it all over the net, its like a giant consumer complaint department.
If they buy a container of bikes, they may get 50 and they may be all from different manufactures. That trader may that sold the bikes may only get $10.00 per bike as a commission? They are not that connected to the manufacturer and neither are you. You can see that in the specs and pictures they use, not that knowledgeable of what they are selling. Then many of the bikes are bought through auctions, those are totally disconnected from the manufacturer. The dealer that is selling them out of his garage cannot make the loan payment the bank repose them, the web dealer that think he has discovered the golden goose…they fail and the bikes come back around.
Many of these bikes are 2006 models…new? It is now 2010; the bikes are four years old. No worry though they are all exactly the same…all the things that broke still break.
My point is that XLMCO bikes have a market, they and other all have a market, they over shot it and it and all rather gross to witness. Tank went bankrupt and the bikes are lingering in the market, while the manufacturer is pushing in new models in through commision based traders.
You can see the Tank products within the XILING “XLMCO” website.
That was not a bad effort, what surprises me is that this Large WUXI based manufacturer did not step in to salvage the TANK distributorship.
Could call that doing a Daewoo? Except Daewoo actually failed in Korea, typically the Koreans do not back away they persist and prefect; XLMCO is not Korean but they should have thought about them and looked at what to do when the efforts fail and how to recover from that.
It’s a domino affect, the distributor failing takes the dealer out with them and orphans products. These foster parents that bought up all the XLMCO products are they still in touch with the parents? Does XLMCO offer parts to them? Do they have a professional system to interface with? Tank had something rudimentary but it did exist. I know this because I went to a dealer and was shown and explained how it worked and how it often did not work.
I'm sorry I would have infused them with capital and then changed the name to XLMCO USA. Set up a better system and with direct online sales and built up and refined the existing dealer network.
Now what? One step foreword two steps back.
The sale occurs when you or I buy a bike, it does not occur when it leaves the factory, it does not occur when it goes to a distributor or to a dealer. That’s a hand off…its a paper sale. Disconnecting from distribution and worse the final consumer is a destructive business practice.
Factories preoccupied with production volumes…that do not have their finger on the pulse of the market will become less and less efficient. The value of the product is connected, its actually a linear relationship.
You can say you get what you pay for, but you can also say good things are worth waiting for.
Wuxi is and has an intelligent educated population doesn’t it? It has a university that is working with the manufacturer? Does that University have a sister school in the US? Is that or would that help, what if it was located in the same city as a distributor? Would or could that create a synergistic exchange?
I am conjuring the ghost of Edward Deming and channeling him….all I need to do is work on my incomprehensible writing style and some other things, like the laundry.
The bikes are all basically the same...
how many version and how many would buy them?