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I did the Motorbike/Car combi test for the C1E and I was required to get at least 90 out of 100.
It should all be the same around Shandong, Gra, so don't worry.
BTW my other friend, Graham, has returned to China now and his Chinese parents in-law just bought him a 90K rmb car even though he doesn't have a Chinese licence.
I'm helping him through the question banks now and he HATES the lack of sense in the majority of the questions. Lol :lol8:.
If you do the motorcycle only' test then you may only have the 45/50 test... I dunno.
.Quote:
Originally Posted by soberpete
So I am not alone then in some of the nonsensical answers.
Oh well, just give the the answer that they want.
Regardless if we foreigners think it's correct, it doesn't matter, just the right answer for them is all that matters.
Thanks
Pete.
Gra.
Exactly, just memorise them verbatim. Logic not required. As to the differences between 100 versus 50 question theory test. If you are applying for motorcycle license only then the theory portion of the test is 50 questions whereas a car theory test is composed of 100 questions (if it's a test for a car plus motorcycle then it is still 100 question test). Naturally though this being TIC rules come into play and for whatever reason at any given time on any given day this may vary,Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
Hi Pete,
I am thinking now, perhaps I should go fro the combined "car and bike" test.
Just learn the questions, and give it a shot or two.
If i am way wide of the 90%, then perhaps just reapply for the bike test on it's own.
Gra.
Absolutely, otherwise later should you wish to add the car then it will likely be a hassle and cause some inconvenience. Memorise the questions, and get 'er done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
The questions are not mutually exclusive. Of the 1500 or more questions they tap for your exam, only a handful are motorcycle specific, and they can appear in either exam. Most of the questions on the motorcycle test are general questions that appear on either exam.
Yes, it makes no sense to get a motorcycle-only license!
cheers
Thanks JKP,
I guessed as much, and with both bikerdoc and yourself both suggesting to go for the full licence, well, might as well.
The questions on the whole, are very much European based, and generally self explanatory.
It's the unique "China only" questions that will catch out us foreign drivers.
Verbatim, as was mentioned earlier, verbatim regardless.
Gra.
You mean like the question about whether it's legal to wear high-heeled shoes while riding a motorcycle?Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
Quote:
3.1.2.2 穿高跟鞋驾驶摩托车，不利于安全行车。答案：正确
3.1.2.2 It is unsafe to ride a motorcycle by high-heel shoes.
Answer: Right
.Quote:
Originally Posted by euphonius
AAHHH yes,
But following on,
It doesn't say it is unsafe for your to wear your high heals, just don't wear your slippers. !
3.3.1.12 When driving a motorcycle, the driver for the sake of safety____________.
A. May wear slippers
B. May wear any shoes
C. Should not wear slippers
D. May wear high heels
Answer C
Damn. Anyone want to buy my slippers? No use to me now!Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
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Hahaha... it's a trap!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lao Jia Hou
Well for the best part of 2 weeks, I have been self testing.
Picking a random 100 motor car & bike questions.
Can only ever get 85 right at best. :(
Some times, only get 81 right. :( :(
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Gra.
It helps you understand how Chinese school children feel. Jump through non-sensical question hoops made up by idiots to pass a test.
Hi Graham.
Ask your wife to give you the questions and mark the ones where you answer wrong - focus on these.
Forget all about to understand - just try to remember.
It worked for me.
Good luck
Indeed to all of the above...
...Gra, good work for self testing yourself; this will help a lot, I'm sure.
I studied those questions for about 2 or three evenings per week over the space of about two months. It helped me to have them sink in over time and it could work for you too. Forcing anything into your head too quickly will simply result in a high loss of that information.
As you may remember, on my first day of exams I got one score of 87 and another of 88. I could remember the questions that I wasn't sure of and so that night I spend another hour or so revising those. The next day I got 93!
Between the three exams that I took, I could have sworn that about 70% of the questions were repeated in each.
you made me remember a horrible year of my life studying that shitQuote:
Originally Posted by Graham
Given the stupidity of some of the questions, maybe not a bad thing. Remember long enough to pass the exam, but forget before any permanent damage is done. :icon10:.Quote:
Originally Posted by soberpete
Cheers!
ChinaV
the exam is relatively simple. compare what high school students done prepare for national exam for higher education, this one is less hell.
focus the question made wrong works for me too. don't try to understand why you got wrong, as V just said, it could damage your brain.
China V + td_ref... spot on :thumbsup::thumbsup:
Gra; remember those bits of advice and you'll do great.
Thanks all,
Still around the 84 - 86 out of 100.
But I think, if I got the "right" 100 questions, then I would get them all right !!!!!
But then I might get the "wrong" 100 questions, and look like a real dork, with just 20 right !!
Oh well, the joys,,,,,, may be they will let me pick which " 100 " ??
Gra.
If you slip a 'hong bao' to the right person in the examination room they might even let you pick your score :mwink: :deal: :mwink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
Hi all, heres the latest info on getting a Chinese driving license in Shanghai.
In case you are wondering "how do I get the bloody licence in Shanghai" - I have just registered for the test yesterday, heres the story + manual.
Unlike probably most of people here in the forum I dont have a residence permit and Im on an F visa that I have to renew every 6 months in HK. So that was my first concern when going to the register. Another one, my visa is made in Shenzhen, and from what I was told in traffic police office ( I went to the wrong place first ) that Shanghai rules are different and I will probably have to go to Shenzhen to pass my test. Whatever it takes, I was ready for anything as Im planning a cross China bike trip next year.
I finally found the correct office (its in Hami rd, Shanghai zoo metro stop on line 10) and was in for a nice surprise that my visa is OK ( there have to be 90 days of stay left in it on the day you pass the test) and all I need to get it sorted is translate my international licence, bring the registration paper (where you live) and they will put sing me up for a test. I was very happy. So I ran to translation office, 100rmb/5 minutes - done. Than ran to a nearby hostel to get the registration form. Did that but had a doubt as the paper was pink and the one I was showed in the driving office was white. So I get hostel to call the DL office and they confirm, that I have to go to police station to get the white paper. So I do. In the police they start waving their hands in my face saying that I have to have a permanent place of registration, like an apartment, the hotel wont do. So what do I do if I stay in hotel for 6 months?! No one can tell or wants to help and they try to get rid of me so Im someone else's problem. I refused to go until they give me answers what to do. After more than an hour of walking up and down the corridor with hands behind my back, one young officer takes a pity on me and calls his mate in the DL office, who tells him, that the pink registration form is ok. So Im off to DL office across town again. It was close to 4pm when I got there and it was a good thing, as thats the time of the day, when everybody starts to work fast, to shift the remaining people, so they can go home. So I get my picture taken, fly by the medical test and get signed up for a theory test on a second day of Christmass. I have to make sure I to bring a valid registration paper ( as hostel only put 10 days on it and it has to be up to date on the day you go in for a test) and know the answers to the questions. PHEWW!
So: Translated driving licence and registration paper where you stay and a visa that has 90 days remaning is pretty much all you need to be allowed to pass the test, and it costs around 300rmb including the translation.
Dear Bakas,Quote:
Originally Posted by Bakas
Thanks for this useful, detailed and encouraging update, and thanks for posting it in this thread -- right where it belongs. Excellent to know that short-termers on 6-month F business visas can qualify for taking the driver's license exam, as this has been the single most vexing obstacle to getting legal without a (1-year) residence permit. Ninety days is hugely more manageable than 180 days, since F visas are generally pretty easy to get, especially through an agent in Hong Kong.
In this new China of nightly sobriety checkpoints and interprovincial security checkpoints, especially in "riding country" in the west of China, you'll now have huge peace of mind knowing that you've got a 5- or even 10-year driver's license in your pocket. You're substantially reducing your risk of an involuntary 15-day stay in Hotel Laojiao.
Next question will be whether this new standard is exceptional for Shanghai, or will become a standard across China.
Did they give you any grief about getting the Class E designation, which licenses you for both car and motorcycle? Most applicants care only about Class C for cars only.
Great work, and many thanks on behalf of the many MCM readers who dream of riding in China without moving here full time!
cheers! :clap::goodtime::thumbsup:
There is a big chance I was plain lucky to talk to an officer who had some sense and when I went back for a second time I went straight back to her. My friend was there few months ago with a working visa (Z) from Beijing and was told to go and pass the test in BJ. This means the rules are still somehow undetermined. I was repeating that I want both car and bike categories like a prayer until she said relax, what you have on your original license is what you are going to get on Chinese. Very straight forward.
Great !!
I am in Weifang, Shandong, Weicheng district.
We are going tomorrow with my "L" visa (married to Chinese girl) to the Weicheng traffic department.
I will firstly need to ask them where to do the medical.
Regarding your home country driving licence translation,
Can it be done by anyone, or does it need to be done some where official?
Did you need to take a photocopy of each side of your home country driving licence?
So, I have my living registration papers.
I have my "L" visa with more than 90 days.
I have my UK car and full big bike licence.
Looks like her will have to bring the 300 quai for me !!
Did you just register for the test, or did you do it there, at that time?
Pass ???
Gra.
The medical and the photos as well as the overseas DL translation are all handled by an official provider that will often be found in close proximity to the DL issuing police station, but being that this is China, TIC applies. Take all your documents, (DL, passport, PSB registration slip, marriage certificate etc and copies of all these just in case) with you to the applicable traffic PSB station which handles DL testing and issuing and they will direct to the other providers locations e.g. where you have to get your photos done, where the medical is completed etc. You most likely will find that you can do most of the procedural things on the same day if you start out first thing in the morning. Usually round these places there are a few people that can be hired for a fee to assist you with navigating the procedural aspects etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
If you manage to get everything completed to the ACCEPTANCE of those in charge, you MIGHT be able to sit the computer generated 100 question test the same day, but this is at the discretion of those in charge of such procedural matters. Notwithstanding though that one should have already read and firmly committed to memory the MCQ test questions and answers. If one gets less than 94% (if I remember correctly) then that is a fail. Plus I think that there were several questions that much be answered correctly regardless and irrespective of the percentage. If one gets those answers wrong or less than the cut off percentage then the test has to be sat again, but at another time.
Again, the caveat here is that TIC and as with all things, your experience may differ. Good luck, cause I have a feeling you might very well need it.
Theres a month worth of waiting list to go sit in the exam room here in Shanghai. The best is just go there and see for yourself. Best of luck!
OK, here it is for Weifang.
Bear in mind, WEIFANG IS NOT SHANGHAI.
We collected my passport with my "L" visa at 09:30 this morning from the Weifang PSB.
Then a short 5 minute taxi ride to the Weifang Translation services, this cost a robbing 260 rnb, for 10 minutes work.
Then a short 10 taxi ride to the Weifang traffic department. Address later.
Then register at a reception desk, here the documents are checked.
Pay 70 rnb
Visa,
Residence certificate location,
original driving licence,
Copy of both sides of driving licence
Translated driving licence, this does not have any picture of the driving licence, just text.
copy of "L" visa page in passport,
copy of details page in back of passport.
You must have a Chinese name.
You must sign the application form with your Chinese name.
Then to the healthy check, cost 65 rnb, which is in same building.
Then to photographs, you get a sheet of 10 which is in the 70 rnb price paid before.
Wait 5 mins, get your photos.
Go back to healthy check desk, there it is just eyesight colour test.
Then still in same building, go to 2F fro the examination hall.
I sat for the exam at 11:15, same day, so quite quick at Weifang.
Unfortunately, I only scored 86 on first attempt.
Now it was lunch time, and the place closed.
So we went home for lunch.
There is no afternoon testing on Fridays in Weifang.
I will go back on Monday for my 2nd test, which is included in the 70 rnb price paid at the beginning.
I hope I can do better on Monday.
There was only about 6 people in the examination hall, which has aprox. 100 computer desk places.
The first thing that struck me was just how very friendly every one was there.
Every one had a smiling face, every one was cheerful.
When I went back to the first girl, to return my registration sheet, after just getting 86, she commented that getting 86 for a foreigner, for first try was very good.
Gra.
Hello BikerDoc,Quote:
Originally Posted by bikerdoc
Sorry to tell you,
You are wrong on the 94%
You are wrong on the "several questions must be answered correctly"
All questions have the same weighting.
You can sit the re-sit exam same morning, or same day, but on Friday, there is no afternoon sitting in Weifang.
If I had got there for say 10:00am, done one test and failed, then I could have quite easily done the 2nd test within 10 minutes of walking out of the first test.
Gra.