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Re: Dong Fang DF 250 RTB Bobber Information
Well here she is all decked out in good ole confederate gray. Have over 200 mile on her now. Top speed with me on her is about 60 and she's pretty wound out at that speed. I guess i'm gonna have to drop down on the sprocket. Those who have done this mod whats a good middle of the road number. I don't want to lose to much bottom end.
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Carolina Bobber
Well here she is all decked out in good ole confederate gray. Have over 200 mile on her now. Top speed with me on her is about 60 and she's pretty wound out at that speed. I guess i'm gonna have to drop down on the sprocket. Those who have done this mod whats a good middle of the road number. I don't want to lose to much bottom end.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8285/7...889f7f2a21.jpg
Grey is great! Keep going: Headlamp & forks.
I use a 33, don't, too small for your area's terrain. Choose a 35 to 38
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GUN ROD
Grey is great! Keep going: Headlamp & forks.
I use a 33, don't, too small for your area's terrain. Choose a 35 to 38
I'm over in Sparkle City so yeah,38 if you're close to 200lbs and 35 if you're closer to 150lbs.
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I'm over in Sparkle City so yeah,38 if you're close to 200lbs and 35 if you're closer to 150lbs.
This is true. I'm at 190lbs with a 35 with no hills along the coast and sometimes wished I had a 38 lol.
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Carolina Bobber
Well here she is all decked out in good ole confederate gray. Have over 200 mile on her now. Top speed with me on her is about 60 and she's pretty wound out at that speed. I guess i'm gonna have to drop down on the sprocket. Those who have done this mod whats a good middle of the road number. I don't want to lose to much bottom end.]
I am about 200 lbs. I ran a 38 tooth for about 800 miles. Switched to a 35 just for the hey of it. After about 200 miles I am thinking about going back to the 38 tooth. Going to give it another couple of hundred miles to be sure. I can switch the sproket out in about 15 minutes. lol.
Like that Confederate gray, even if I am a damn Yankee. :mwink:
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Carolina Bobber
Well here she is all decked out in good ole confederate gray. Have over 200 mile on her now. Top speed with me on her is about 60 and she's pretty wound out at that speed. I guess i'm gonna have to drop down on the sprocket. Those who have done this mod whats a good middle of the road number. I don't want to lose to much bottom end.
i ran a 35t which was fine here in louisiana, but, at times it did feel on take off that i was in other people's way. it really didn't have the get up and go, i'd try the 38t if i were you.
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After the cornfield breakdown with my Harley friends, recharged battery and rode locally for a couple of hours last week.
Started acting up again and put it back on the charger. Lights on charger showed battery below 50% capacity again?
How do I find the issue? Magnito or something in between. Fair gearhead but not strong with electronics. Any suggestions?
Mods to electric system were new littium battery & headlamp. Confident not battery. Headlamp is halogen but only a 35/35.
(speedo removed).
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GUN ROD
After the cornfield breakdown with my Harley friends, recharged battery and rode locally for a couple of hours last week.
Started acting up again and put it back on the charger. Lights on charger showed battery below 50% capacity again?
How do I find the issue? Magnito or something in between. Fair gearhead but not strong with electronics. Any suggestions?
Mods to electric system were new littium battery & headlamp. Confident not battery. Headlamp is halogen but only a 35/35.
(speedo removed).
Get a lead acid battery and put it in before messing with anything else. I've tried all kinds of batteries including gell. Nothing but problems. Sometimes would start and sometimes not. Went back to a lead and acid battery and no more problems. They are what your charging system is designed for.
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GUN ROD
SR-Mail Thank you, thinking dido on the r/r, ordered today.
Ghost, battery & stator tested good not getting a charge back to the battery. Got to be r/r.
Let us know how it goes... don't forget to take somes pics :icon10:
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as I said to rollenrock 2 pages back , Ive had batteries that tested "good" even when they wer only charging to a max of a few amps .... , my "good" battery couldnt even kick the starter relay over , but read a solid 12 volts
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Way earlier in our forum, a member had issues with hie regulator/rectifier. So I knew this may come up. Looking for an improved r/r, the suggested choice (SR Mail) is a Mosfet FET style rather than our OEM Dongfang SCR style. "The FET has extremely low resistance in conducting state and this results in a lower dissipated power from the device while conducting load current, as opposed to the shunt SCR which shunts the maximum current across a significant volt drop, resulting in a higher dissipated power - and resulting temperature, much more so than the FET device."
It is pricey, but spend 5 hours in a cornfield with a flask of vodka, and ask me again.
Even if it turns out to be the battery or wires between strator & r/r, I'm happy to make a quality change.
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Attachment 8356Attachment 8357 New Mosfet R/R installed. Moved forward to get room due to size of Harley tank. Provided line just long enough. Red little box (second pic) is the circuit breaker. Wires direct to battery, then to strattor. Rest of the original system separated. How well does it work? Borrowed meter not available today. Runs great.
Mixmaster, what bike is your tank from, looks alot like mine. I had to cut alot to get it to fit.
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its a yamaha xs650 tank. No cutting needed just new mounting points. Did you use a satin finish paint on yours ,is it black or pewter?
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Mixmaster
its a yamaha xs650 tank. No cutting needed just new mounting points. Did you use a satin finish paint on yours ,is it black or pewter?
Black satin, bad photos
Company called Color Rite, sells a 2 part rattle can satin clear paint that resists gas stains & temps. Base color of your choice.
Send pics when you finish tank, right now only a mother would love.
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Re: Dong Fang DF 250 RTB Bobber Information
Question for everyone, does anyone have any experience with Honda XR650L? From viewing pics they seem like the 650 motor could fit into our frames with some modifications. The motor is also aircooled, dry sump, same size drive chain. I tried looking for exact dimensional specs, but I'm not finding any. What does anyone else think?
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mrepooh
Question for everyone, does anyone have any experience with Honda XR650L? From viewing pics they seem like the 650 motor could fit into our frames with some modifications. The motor is also aircooled, dry sump, same size drive chain. I tried looking for exact dimensional specs, but I'm not finding any. What does anyone else think?
I had a friend who's first reaction upon seeing my DF was you know, you could put a bigger motor in that. I told him if I wanted a bigger motor I would of bought a bike with a bigger motor. You're missing the whole point. "It is what it is." :taz: My last bike had over 1750 cc's. I have another bike with 900 cc's. What are you wanting to do? These bikes are perfect with the motor they have, Keep the bike. When you decide you need to go bigger, go bigger. But keep the DF back in the corner of the shed covered up with tarp. You'll be digging it out and riding it someday. My DF just hums along at 60, 65 mph.
Modifiy the hell out of it, But once you throw another engine it, it is no longer a DF250RTB. You'll have to find another thread. I just put a tach on mine today. In fifth gear it rides 4 grand at 40 mph, 5 grand at 50 mph. 6 grand at 60 mph. That's with the 35 tooth rear.
The one it should of came with.
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Hey, you asked.
I love this bike for what it is.
P.S. A XR650L engine in the DF250RTB, the front end wouldn't be able to handle it.
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ghost1133
I just put a tach on mine today. In fifth gear it rides 4 grand at 40 mph, 5 grand at 50 mph. 6 grand at 60 mph. That's with the 35 tooth rear.
The one it should of came with.
Please tell us about the tach. Which one did you go with and how was the install. Pic's and link please. :thumbsup:
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mrepooh
Question for everyone, does anyone have any experience with Honda XR650L? From viewing pics they seem like the 650 motor could fit into our frames with some modifications. The motor is also aircooled, dry sump, same size drive chain. I tried looking for exact dimensional specs, but I'm not finding any. What does anyone else think?
i agree with ghost, if you're wanting something bigger and more powerful, just buy something bigger and more powerful. i wish i could've kept my DF just for kicks, but i needed the trade in $$$ and i realy didn't have enough room in the garage for 2 bikes, but ever since trading it in and getting the Shadow 1100 Sabre, i couldn't even think about going back to a 250. but i do miss the DF and the attention it got cause everybody knows what a Shadow is and no one knew what the DF was, and the look on people's faces was priceless when you tell them it's Chinese. plus i don't think the DF frame can handle a bigger motor, but to each his own, if you were to put a bigger motor that frame i'd sure like to hear how that turns out.
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Please tell us about the tach. Which one did you go with and how was the install. Pic's and link please. :thumbsup:
"Tiny Tach". Install was about 15 minutes. I used double sticky back tape to mount it. Right under the headlight. It reads out the hours when the bike is not running. In the second picture you can see the one lead that is wrapped around the frame because it was so long and you cannot cut it. It splits off at the end into a red wire and a white wire which is the ground. I just wrapped the red wire around the spark plug wire 4 or 5 times and cut off the excess and wrapped electrical tape over it. I'll probabably mount the tach more permanently now that I see it works ok.
Pros: Works great, easy install.
Cons: 5 year non replaceable battery.
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In the third pic. you can see the reflection of my camera. Photographer I am not. :right
Here's the Url: http://www.norwall.com/products/Tiny...c3304_a_7cTT2A
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Wow, that's pretty cool. Something I've been wanting to do. Thanks for sharing!
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so with the tach installed, i wonder whats the "real" redline on this thing.
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so with the tach installed, i wonder whats the "real" redline on this thing.
IIRC,the Honda version red lined at 8500rpm,So probably close to that.
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Instead of borrowing a meter, finally bought my own.
New r/r shows 14.43 with everything on at all rpm.!(14.25 promised)
I need to clear the air.
First my original r/r was severly shaped to allow new tank, & with it under the tank did I comprimise the heat release?
Second, installing the new r/r, I found the green/red/black snap connection melted at the green connection.
Therefore, don't feel compelled to do what I needed to do. I may have caused the issue.
Anouther point, consider the new r/r by passes our system, therefore no ability to operate without the battery,i.e. push start or upgrade to a kick start.
I feel relieved to have corrected my problem, but appreciate it may have been my own fault.
Regarding, engine size, on the trip with the Harley guys. Down to the last guy all encourage me to get a bigger displacement bike. Because except for one didn't know my experience, I explained 'been there done that'.
I'm not discouraging you folks to evolve into bigger bikes but you have now a perfect machine to deliver the enjoyment, efficenticy, manuvilbly (forgive spelling) & appeal for pleasure riding (not commuting or long road trips).
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Thanks for the input Ghost, I took a look at a XR650L earlier today, I can easily get it to fit but I thought to myself 'is it worth the effort?". For me to get it 'legal' in Nevada I'd have to get the frame certified by a builder to ensure it's safe, the state would then assign a new VIN number to the frame to register it as a custom, basically it would no longer be a DF250RTB. I suppose if I ever go that route I post some pics lol.
By the way, I was a 'airframer' in the navy, some modifications to the airframe actually technical directives and standard practices, then I worked as a Iron worker before the economy here tanked... Anyways, I enjoy building. I honestly don't see this bike staying the way it is forever, if my plasma cutter, MIG, TIG, and Arc welder has anything to say about it HAHAHA!!!
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mrepooh
Anyways, I enjoy building. I honestly don't see this bike staying the way it is forever, if my plasma cutter, MIG, TIG, and Arc welder has anything to say about it HAHAHA!!!
Wow, this is going to get interesting. Fun too. Can't wait to see some of the mods you have in mind. :eekers:
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Why not just get a used bigger bike and bob/hard tail it. Welders can do "magic"...
Blue Collar Bobbers Home
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aye the only reason I have looked into a engine swap was because I didnt know of the reliability/quality , a bit more top end HPower wouldnt be bad either
so far I have no plans for a transplant as it does everything I expected and a bit more , but if it goes kaput then I will look into a 250 rebel although a cbr250r motor would be nice , both I believe about direct fits