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sourcing tires insidie China
All:
I'm thinking ahead to my next set of tires for the Jialing JH600, which comes stock with Chengxin road tires in sizes 100/90-19 and 130/80-17. I've had a squiz through Taobao but not come up with anything.
Any bright ideas on how/where to find quality tires, and suggestions for what might be a "toothier" tire for non-paved riding -- albeit one that's available somewhere in China?
thanks!
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Have you been out to the motorcycle & scooter market there in Shanghai? Or how about heading down to TianMa circuit, I know there's a fairly good range of motorcycle tyres there. I'd suggest Hangzhou motorcycle market, though I think the range of tyres would be on a par with the SH market. Besides which if you were to ride down to HZ then it's a hop-skip-n-a-jump to NB :P
:mwink:
:riding:
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i've been into the Jiaoji Lu scooter market, but have not found tires for bigger-bore bikes. will have to look again.
have not tried tianma. all the scuttle here has not raised my confidence about that place.
still thinking of a ride north soon. beijing beckons.
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Yeah, I'd suggest you head on out to TianMa, after all you're only after a set of tyres right, not a complete bike because sure as shiet sticks to a blanket I'd not touch any of the bikes that are being sold there with the exception of any that might be sold by the German mechanic on the end of the shop queue closest to the entry gate. He's 100% legit and above board, but he's into servicing not selling. Worth having a talk with him, he'll set you straight on some of the business activities and practices of some (unnamed motorcycle shops/dealers). But back to the issue at hand, those 'other' shops there do have quite a range of tyres, and if they aint got it, I'm sure they can get em.
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euphonius
i've been into the Jiaoji Lu scooter market, but have not found tires for bigger-bore bikes. will have to look again.
have not tried tianma. all the scuttle here has not raised my confidence about that place.
still thinking of a ride north soon. beijing beckons.
What kind of route you got in mind for BJ?
When and who else would you go with, and for how long?
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nice sleuthing BD! with that one exception, the prices are indeed attractive. next question is which is best for my riding profile, which is mostly on highways/roads but sometimes in mud/dirt....
i'd not given much more thought to a beijing route than "north", though I did ask google maps to show me the way. first instinct is to find the most direct route and hustle. then again, if there's some more gracious route I'd certainly want to know about it! was thinking of mapping myself through Zibo to hoist an adult beverage with ZMC888...
as of now this is a solo project, but i'd be delighted to have company. i've got some business up in Shenyang 22-24 July, and would like to spend a week or so in Beijing prior to motoring up there...
cheers
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By the way, that expensive one at 2300 rmb....
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=5353868212
...is supposedly a brand-new Pirelli.
a bit rich for my budget. but i like the Sanwang Normandie...
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=3385447501
now checking with my buddies down in Zhejiang...
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bikerdoc
....with the exception of any that might be sold by the German mechanic on the end of the shop queue closest to the entry gate. He's 100% legit and above board, but he's into servicing not selling. Worth having a talk with him, he'll set you straight on some of the business activities and practices of some (unnamed motorcycle shops/dealers)....
BG-Performance should get you tyres out of HK but might take a few weeks, http://www.bg-performance.com
the German Tianma Circuit bloke is a verbal diarrhea and was nicknamed "motormouth" by some Shanghai bike owners a long time ago.....
ride safe! PAL
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thanks, Pal. have heard good things about orders through BG. thinking about a quick squiz out to tianma...
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I can get you Metzeler Tourance, Bridgestone Battlewings, or Bridgestone Trailwings. Between 2000-2500 for a set. My F650 uses the same tires and I generally buy 3 sets per year in the Guangzhou motorcycle market. BG Performance is a good source for tires, but they usually cater to the sportbike crowd so you have to wait a while to get your order. The concrete roads are devastating on tire life, prepare thy wallet.
Also might be worth making friends at BG as they are probably one of the only shops in China that know how to correctly mount and balance. I do mine meself.
Cheers!
ChinaV
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Pal
BG-Performance should get you tyres out of HK but might take a few weeks,
http://www.bg-performance.com
the German Tianma Circuit bloke is a verbal diarrhea and was nicknamed "motormouth" by some Shanghai bike owners a long time ago.....
ride safe! PAL
well interestingly enough that same German engineer has quite a few words to say about the shiet being palmed off by all and sundry around about... as with most things here, if it seems too good to be true... it likely is, and the motorcycles being offered (BMW's, Japs, and the odd European motorbikes -which have not been bought in legally) need to be carefully scrutinised , which includes a full engine strip... I have seen some of the stuff being passed off with way more km's as evidenced inside the internals than is shown on the speedo, here with my own eyes - it's buyer beware!
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bikerdoc
well interestingly enough that same German engineer has quite a few words to say about the shiet being palmed off by all and sundry around about... it's buyer beware!
Just curious, is German "motormouth" still fiddling around with the Triumph and Duc in his shop?
Never bought anything from all the Tianma shops, mates and I had a few parts imports via BG-Performance and they handled everything in a very timely professional manner, two thumbs up!
Ride safe PAL!
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ChinaV
I can get you Metzeler Tourance, Bridgestone Battlewings, or Bridgestone Trailwings. Between 2000-2500 for a set. My F650 uses the same tires and I generally buy 3 sets per year in the Guangzhou motorcycle market. BG Performance is a good source for tires, but they usually cater to the sportbike crowd so you have to wait a while to get your order. The concrete roads are devastating on tire life, prepare thy wallet.
Thanks ChinaV. It's a kind offer, and a tempting one. I'll keep you posted as I do my shopping. Have you considered any of the domestic tires, especially Shinko, Kenda and, what's this, Sanwang, that bikerdoc point out?
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=3385447501
i guess tires are a very personal thing. i'm such a newb i have now idea how to evaluate and choose.
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I have China tires in my bike and I fancy them big time. Just great tires, totally awesome in any terrain and perfectly fine for low power motorcycle I have. Your bigger and more powerful bike might need better tires, or maybe not unless you drive it like some race driver taking everything out of the engine and cornering like a road racer. I myself am only puzzled on can I get the same tires as I have now for cheap here in Finland or will I have to pay double or triple of tires which wear more quicly and make no other difference whatsoever.
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For Beijing: Motorway carries a good selection, even TKC 80s can be found there!
Check it out
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euphonius, you're welcome to come screaming through Zibo, and stop for a night on the way through, we have a few places for visitors to stay and a few bars. Let me know when you are heading up, I could meet you in Qufu and take you up to Binzhou, as Taishan and the mountainous Jinan and Southern Zibo district areas are very attractive.
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ZMC888
you're welcome to come screaming through Zibo, and stop for a night on the way through, we have a few places for visitors to stay and a few bars. Let me know when you are heading up, I could meet you in Qufu and take you up to Binzhou, as Taishan and the mountainous Jinan and Southern Zibo district areas are very attractive.
ZMC, thanks much for the warm welcome, and I likely will take you up on your invitation! I'm now thinking of shoving off early on Tuesday, but getting all the way to Zibo or even Qufu in one day, though doable, is not my idea of a fun ride. So I'm thinking I'll get myself to northern Jiangsu on Tuesday, then could be in Qufu by midday Wednesday if you wanted to meet up there and do some riding together, and further recreation in the evening in Zibo.
It's been years and years since my last visit to Zibo, but I remember it as being a nice, self-confident and fun town.
I can't imagine it's too hard to get to Beijing from Zibo in one day, right?
I'll PM you my contacts.
cheers!
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euphonius
I can't imagine it's too hard to get to Beijing from Zibo in one day, right?
Zibo to BJ is perfectly doable in a day. My phone no is your inbox and we would like to welcome you to the capital and the mountain roads around it :deal:
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Hi there, I am just brwosing Taobao to find some knobby tires for my JH-150 GY-3 and I am confused.:WTFamI
My current front tire is 90/90-19 and the rear 110/90-17. So I know that the last figure refers to the size of the wheel in inches, the first figure is the tire width. The figure in the middle is something like the section proportion. But what does it actually mean and why can't I find any knobby tires for my bike on Taobao? Is it ok if the first and last numbers are the same but the middle one is slightly different?
Any explanations highly appreciated!
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fahni
Hi there, I am just brwosing Taobao to find some knobby tires for my JH-150 GY-3 and I am confused.:WTFamI
My current front tire is 90/90-19 and the rear 110/90-17. So I know that the last figure refers to the size of the wheel in inches, the first figure is the tire width. The figure in the middle is something like the section proportion. But what does it actually mean and why can't I find any knobby tires for my bike on Taobao? Is it ok if the first and last numbers are the same but the middle one is slightly different?
Any explanations highly appreciated!
Heard of Google yet? :naughty:
http://www.bridgestone.com/products/...ion/index.html
http://www.conti-online.com/generato...andbuch_uv.pdf
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fahni
But what does it actually mean and why can't I find any knobby tires for my bike on Taobao?
17" Rear and 19" Front are not very popular knobby tire sizes, especially when it comes to China and Taobao. If the middle (profile) is a bit different, it shouldn't be a major problem for your bike.
Cheers!
ChinaV
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chinabiker
Hey Chinabiker, thanks for the direction but as you might have imagined, I already tried Google but the outlines on the manufacturers webpages and even on other forums left me just more confused. The Conti Handbuch is not loading, even with VPN. EDIT: just finished loading!
But it is good to know that I can put on a tire with a slightly different profile, thanks V!
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Our set: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=14458196672
plenty of these too wide 100/90/19 http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=10769577624
one bit more knobby deunlop 90/90/19 http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=12994568965
Would it be possible to put a new front rim for 100mm tire??
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=12368383172 perfect? look a bit like sh*t and looks like he has only the front one
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Thanks for the research, filipu. I wanted something more knobby than our standard set.
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filipu
That one looks like it has already been used.
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I've found a guy on taobao who says he has this tires. Its weird because all the other say they have never seen this size offroad tires. 370rmb for a set. wanna try?
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its this guy http://shop33074215.taobao.com/searc...geNum=2#anchor he doesnt have them in his offer but said he can get them. he showed me some pictures in taobao chat window, i didnt save them, but maybe sth like he has in his offer. i wrote also on motorfans forum and one of the guy gave me a link to some other taobao seller who has the tires. slightly different size but they said they would fit. they asked me to share the feelings about riding in those because they also want to try but heard its not very convinient on the road. i'm trying to contact him but he s offline.
thats the on recommended by the guy from motorfans:
http://shop62386758.taobao.com/searc...&queryType=cat
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The second guy says these will fit:
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=6958405617
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=6958020747
or that he can make ones that will fit (这个可以做后轮). I love this agressive look:
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http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=...d=12887735785&
and this one 400rmb for a set. recommended by guy from mmotorfans