New Honda CBF 190X

Honda unveiled a new small-capacity adventure bike at the China International Motorcycle Trade Exhibition in Chongqing (2016}
Called the CBF 190X. (Fight Hawk)

Re-named the TOURISM

It now looks like the bike is ready to be sold by Dealer in China.
The price I will post when I have details.

But from the picture, it looks like it comes with side boxes and crash bars.
Depending on the price it could be a very good starter bike for China.


"LAST week we said that Honda was planning a new Chinese-made, downsized adventure bike based on the CB190R. Now it’s launched exactly that during the 25th anniversary celebrations of its Wuyang-Honda joint venture.

The bike, dubbed CB190X and bearing the terrible name ‘Tourism’ on the tank, is exactly what last week’s patent filings led us to believe. It’s based on sporty-looking Chinese market CB190R, which means it gets the same 184cc air-cooled, fuel-injected single and tubular steel frame. But it’s wrapped in predictable adventure bike styling – beak, high screen, aluminium grab rails, crash bars – and given longer-travel suspension.

According to Chinese site NewMotor, which took these pictures at the bike’s unveiling, the power is the same as the CB190R, with 15.8hp at 8000rpm.

Oddly, Honda already makes another adventure-style bike around the same engine and chassis, the CBF190X Fight Hawk, also sold in China. It, however, keeps the sportier USD forks of the CB190R as well as that bike’s underbelly exhaust, so probably has a little less off-road ability than the new CB190X.

As we said last week, there’s little chance that this bike will ever be sold in western markets, but it would be easy to imagine how a sleeved-down, learner-legal 125cc version could prove popular."

Source link...http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-...-bike-revealed



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Looks like Shad Box on the rear, same type as the ones fitted to the CFMOTO 650MT

A Chinese friend of mine who has a very large dealership here in China has just confirmed a few points.

1. Cost 15,800 RMB IMO spot on with the price.
2. No ABS so won't be sold to the EU.
3. EFI & Center stand.
4. Sold with Top & side boxes
5. Arrives in the showrooms September.

Those 15.800 yuan or bit more than 2.000 euros are factory or retail price in China?

Here, cheapest "Honda", CB 125 F (which is, in my opinion, not much more than a decent Chinese commuter bike; yes, I know this CB is Chinese made), cost a bit less than 2.700 euros.

If "Honda" can manage to offer this bike in Europe for comparable price, they doesn't have to worry about the ABS - they can even declare brakes as optional equipment. :mwink:

Retail price Zorge.

Weight?

16 HP is not going to be much fun when you overload the luggage and try to tour with it.

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Originally Posted by ChinaV

Weight?

16 HP is not going to be much fun when you overload the luggage and try to tour with it.

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Done it on my YBR 125cc with only 11 hp, yes not much fun but can be done at a slow pace lol.
Need to travel light is the clue.

145 kg I think

I remember that in late 80's I wrote in some local paper that one Italian guy take a trip on his old "Garelli" moped from Italy to... I think, Nordcap. In every case, he took a looong ride with a joke, not with a proper bike.

And he was not only one. Even today on our local moto forum I can see pretty every summer that someone make trip to Greece on a 50cc scooter. It's not a big deal - you need to have some patience and soon you'll have something to brag about.

So, just a few ponies in your bike's engine are not unbearable limitation.

That bike looks awesome, they hava managed to put hell lot of flashy pop on the bike. Begat to think about what if scenario where that bike would had been in my teenager years, which was dominated by Honda 125 NSR, about 29 HP stock, if I recall correctly. Probs people would had lolled at this new Honda, saying it is papa bike with those hard bags and 15 HP. I myself would had taken Yamaha 125 DT anytime before that Honda.

So, hilariously enough, these modern light bikes suck cock of bikes of yesterday. When you are young, you want to enjoy of acceleration and speed. You want and need that 30 HP of your 125 cm³ on tarmac, a bit less will do on gravel. And what they do sell to youths? In Europe max 15 HP because of freaking laws.

Interestingly enough 15 HP is something a sucky four stroke 125 cm³ can produce. I wonder if that max 15 HP law never came, what kind of bikes would be in markets?

Argh, very pissed at the moment, not enjoying coming back to home from mini trip. Zero tolerance to pussy laws.


Edit: Had to insert pic on the name of GOOD OLD DAYS :naughty:

Honda 125 NSR, 29 HP stock, Two Stroke Powah :naughty:

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I would like to sing this to Honda man. It goes

"Chunfeng man, Benneli man,
Everybody gone bad
Situation, aggravation
Everybody irritation
In the club, on the road
Everybody chasing each other
Drinking, Dining
Everybody's gone mad

All I wanna say is that
I don't really have horsepower
All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us"

I own and have been running the current CBF190X for a couple of months now. It is made by Sundiro Honda. I have been planning a review for everyone in the near future as I rack up some more ks on it. It has been frickin hot here in Ningbo this last month so the saddle time has been below average. I was very surprised when I saw this model manufactured by another Chinese Honda brand.
The engine is pretty powerless but incredibly frugal. In the first few tanks I have averaged a theoretical range in the high 400s out of a 12 litre tank. It does have some character to it and makes a decent noise (all things considered). Issues that I have with my bike are; 1. Fueling, it is jerky/snatchy on and off the throttle 2. Saggy suspension (I am 90kgs before gear so I can understand If the suspension is too soft) 3. Limited power, acceleration and low top speed (again understandable)
in the end its a fun bike so long as you aren't riding with others and are happy just to go at the speed that the bike wants.
Full review in a few weeks

That fuel efficiency of small four strokers I envy.

Waiting for the review, thanks in advance :)