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Hello guys.
Just found this Lifan 600 cc Nuke model on this obscure website. (a chinese forum?) Looks like a prototype with a Suzuki engine. But the design is ok, It looks like a Jap.
http://74.125.77.132/translate_c?hl=...Vr45_PyT3Ko2Cw
A lot of text is lost in translation though. There are two pages with photos.
Great find Niels!
Mmmman I need to start going to the Chinese motorcycle trade shows again! :icon10:
CC
P.S. - I think the bike would be better in red.
http://www.lnmoto.net/day_090307/200...szgjAW7zQ0.jpg
http://www.lnmoto.net/day_090307/200...rPwUwaAlR5.jpg
Allright, do you then know thiese pics from 2002. They are all prototypes but a clear prediction about what we can expect in the future. I am going to make an album in here with all the pics together.
http://translate.google.com/translat...history_state0=
http://snelleeddy.punt.nl/index.php?...&tbl_archief=0
http://www.motorcycleasia.com/forums...d.php?p=155951
http://translate.google.com/translat...history_state0=
I'm pretty sure that the Zongshen bike is just a Suzuki that they bought to start a GP Racing team in '06. They are still posting the pics and info at Zongshenmotor dot com. I've been watching them because they have had a small project/working agreement with HarleyDavidson.
http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/ne...ket/index.html
But, the relationship is mostly about HD getting into the Chinese market. HD needed the clout and lobby power of Zongshen - which is privately owned. Previously, only Chinese military could own 750cc and larger bikes. Harleys smallest motor is 883cc.
Jailing's JH600 is one of the few "large" chinese motors...and it's a thumper.Too bad they don't produce that 250 V-twin pictured as the red Commando250 as a 450, 550, or 650. Because, the Suzuki SV650 sells really well.
PJ
That red Zong 750 could be a Zuki but's got a funny swing arm.
The Jialing engine looks a little big for a 250 twin...but it could bee a perspective problem. If its not, it could easily be a plastic engine.
Niels brings up a good point though...what happened to these bikes?
CC
PS - Thanks for that link to the Harley ZS article. I'll repost it...
I think it says "600" on the Jialing Commando, but the pic is in no good resolution so it gets blurred when I try to zoom. It looks like some 650 engine, maybe taken from Hyosung or SV 650. But you are right, it looks like a plastic model. I cannot see the top gasket on that Commando.
Niels, the commando says 250. And when you consider the size of the exhaust pipe, it must be a 250cc. But, I totally agree with Carl that it could be a fake, cylinder heads of that size could easily be 650 or 750cc. Or perhaps the frame is a super small scale???
What we can agree on is that these bikes were either models or concepts that didn't make the final cut. At least they made it past the photoshop stage.
And Carl, did you notice the date on that HD/Zong news?
PJ
DOH! I didn't see a date on the top half of the news post and assumed (incorrectly of course) that is was relatively recent. :rolleyes1:
Geez... maybe I need to take a break or something! :WTFamI
Paz,
CC
Yep, old news. But I believe the partnership achieved what it needed to. I understand that China now has 2 Harley stores and despite the 100% tariff, you can legally obtain an HD there. I was hoping that technical and manufacturing partnerships could have resulted. Nope.
PJ
There's still much work that has to be done in China in terms of developing the riding culture. To be honest, I hope these guys like HD and BMW take is niiice n' sloooow cuz that's a big fish they're trying to fry.
Pay off could be tremendous if it pans out though!
CC
http://translate.google.com/translat...history_state0=
There are some news about the Nuke here. This is from a danish website. If anything is lost in translation, I will be glad to sort out some of it.
Forget about it. The journalist who wrote this got the information from me when I posted it on a danish MC forum. He does not have any info apart from what we already know.
http://lifanmoto.com.ua/news/13
This Ukranian Lifan importer claimed in nov. 09 that the model i up and running, but maybe just another rumour. Althrough this is the newest information I've seen on this bike yet.
Oh! Just what we need on China's chaotic roads: A Gixxer-inspired Chinese-made 4-cyl 16-valve 600cc crotch rocket, aka Darwinian selection tool. This would surely weed out the idiots on the road, but also cause a lot of collateral carnage along the way. Send this suicide machine to the Ukraine -- and keep it there!
Kidding aside, these images all date back to that 4th ChinaMoto show in April 2007, and I can find nothing new in the Chinese forums since then.
The girls in the pix would be three years older now...
Yes you are right, they have probably just seen this thread, and then wanted to create some interest about their brand. They don't know any more than us at this moment. So no large displacement sports-touring bikes for us yet.
Dear Niels, I wouldn't say ***no*** large-displacement sport-touring bikes. Yes, the JH600 is more of a dual sport, but she's rock solid on the road at 120kph fully loaded, so she's one option. And as bikerdoc has REPORTED in the recent H-D thread, Chunfeng aka CFMoto.com has confirmed that its long-rumored 650cc twin street bike, which ZMC888 suggests quotes heavily from the KAWI ER6, will be out before the end of 2010. Though it's no match for most of China's chaotic roads, that Chunfeng could be a valuable addition to the growing range of bigger-bore China-made bikes entering the global markets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niels Thomsen
What's your impression of the rumored Chunfeng, which purportedly is the steed seen in THIS POSTING?
Wow that was new to me. Cool thanks for that link. Looks MUCH like the ER6-N to me, except around the footpeg.
I also found this on the CF moto homepage
http://www.cfmoto.cn/Media_info.php?id=484
Harley Davidson now has a number of stores open in China; Shanghai, Beijing, Qingdao and Hong Kong being the original stores. Four new dealerships opened earlier this year (2010) in Wenzhou, Xiamen, Dalian and Chengdu.Quote:
Originally Posted by gpPeej
I'd reported in this forum that H-D was moving up to 20 hogs a month from its feedlot out in suburban Shanghai, and a second source told me this weekend that they'd indeed sold about 100 bikes in 2010 to date. Harleys are so hot in Shanghai now that in some months they are absorbing the entire pool of available local license plates, which are allocated through a lottery because Shanghai authorities have taken a decision not only to cap the number of motorcycles on the road but to actually reduce the total. I grabbed a plate this month for my JH600 -- one of only 2 plates available when I applied.
If H-D now has stores in 8 cities -- damn! -- who wudda thought it would be Harley that captured popular imagination and shook up China's motorcycling market??? I'll have to get myself out there to have a look.
Yeah, HD Shanghai advised last week that they are completely out of stock of (883) Sportster's and Fatboy's for the rest of the year. In other words they have already sold their 2010 stock, and will only look to fill orders for those two models in 2011. Of course that's just Shanghai, when I spoked with the new Wenzhou dealership last week, they have both models in stock.Quote:
Originally Posted by euphonius