Driving illegal scooter in Shanghai
I know I know...
But anyway I want to buy a gas scooter (with fake plates?) and I want to ask for advice
1) where to buy,
2) where to drive,
3) how to fill gas
And any other useful info.
I was considering an e-scooter but it sucks to always worry about the battery and I need to look for apartment now so will have to drive a lot
thanks
Re: Driving illegal scooter in Shanghai
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Originally Posted by
kozynak
I know I know...
But anyway I want to buy a gas scooter (with fake plates?) and I want to ask for advice
1) where to buy, Don't
2) where to drive, Don't
3) how to fill gas Don't
And any other useful info.
I was considering an e-scooter but it sucks to always worry about the battery and I need to look for apartment now so will have to drive a lot
thanks
Your original e-scooter idea was better. Simply buy one with a HUGE electric motor and claim that the previous laowei owner sold it to you as being a 'legally compliant 200W bike', and you had no idea. :thumbsup:
If you buy a gas-powered scooter without registration or insurance you will be turned into a human ATM if you have an accident with a pedestrian or cyclist, even if it wasn't your fault, play the game and play it smart. These days ebikes can rival gas motors especially if you are riding under a 50km range. Don't worry about an ebike battery, simply remove it, take it home and charge it.
If you really want to leave the city and explore on a bike then that's a different scenario.
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ZMC888
These days ebikes can rival gas motors especially if you are riding under a 50km range. Don't worry about an ebike battery, simply remove it, take it home and charge it.
That's the point, right now I will be looking for an apartment and this means a lot of riding, because I live not in the center and I want to move to the center.
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Originally Posted by
ZMC888
Simply buy one with a HUGE electric motor and claim that the previous laowei owner sold it to you as being a 'legally compliant 200W bike', and you had no idea
You mean to buy new one or used one? If I buy new one, how can I claim anything, the fapiao is there
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kozynak
That's the point, right now I will be looking for an apartment and this means a lot of riding, because I live not in the center and I want to move to the center.
You mean to buy new one or used one? If I buy new one, how can I claim anything, the fapiao is there
Obviously I mean that you have a bike that 'looks like' a 2nd hand ebike, obviously the previous foreigner lost all the the receipts. :mwink:
So now you have a massively powerful ebike that can accelerate very quickly and go a long way, you have 'no idea' that it is illegal.:naughty: Much better than even riding an obviously illegal 100cc gas powered scooter that the police actively fish for, to bust people.
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OK may be
anyway if someone can answer my questions you are welcome
Re: Driving illegal scooter in Shanghai
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Originally Posted by
kozynak
OK may be
anyway if someone can answer my questions you are welcome
Reckon ya'll fit right in with the current MCM crowd using fake docs and dodgy engines.
Ride safe and enjoy constantly looking over your shoulder while riding as they are coming for you.... PAL
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Because ebikes suck, 50km range on 30km/h? Fucking joke. And no need to scaremonger here. "They" are NOT "coming for me", "they" just take 200 kuai and let go because "they" know it is impossible to follow law in China. Show me one laowai who paid 5000 fine or went to prison for this
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prince666
You sure know how to make friends Pal once again a great post life must be very boring for you at this time in your life
Hi prince666, can I kindly ask you not to post in this thread, TBH not seen useful posts by you. Thanks for cooperation. I don't need your answers or advises. I mean if you can hold it of course :icon10:
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again, prince666, kindly don't post here
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kozynak
again, prince666, kindly don't post here
All done removed post
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Kozynak,
You can be put in a detention center for 15 days if you are caught riding without proper documents. Will that ever happen? Who knows....
You can forget the idea that Laowai are something special in China, that was like 15 years ago....
If you hit someone they WILL make you pay unless you run, if you run and you are caught they will shit on you. If someone is in an accident this is the Chinese lotto winner scenario mentality and without insurance they may well come back time and time again forcing you to payout again and again, could cost you 10,000 minimum a shot and how sick you'll feel when it was caused most likely by them running into the road without looking, many foreigners on and off these boards have been forced to pay.
Not all ebikes are equal, most have small motors, but you can find ones with illegally big motors, my next bike may be a Zero SR (although an SR would need to be plated as it's too obviously something special), which is as power as my current 650cc twin. If you have an accident on an ebike one it's better because the lazy cops will have to PROVE that you have a big motor in it, as most ebikes don't need insurance you are much less likely to be dragged over the coals and you can plead ignorance. If I lived in Shanghai I'd buy a stealth ebike that looked normal, but in fact had 10kw or more. Thing is on an illegal gas scooter you are always illegal, there is no debate and no possibility to plead innocent.
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37999 for Zero SR?? Shanghai cops will just take away and you will be begging them.
And if they take away my 1500 kuai scooter fuck it
next time you post advice something realistic will you. I am looking for something cheap for 70km range
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kozynak
37999 for Zero SR?? Shanghai cops will just take away and you will be begging them.
And if they take away my 1500 kuai scooter fuck it
next time you post advice something realistic will you. I am looking for something cheap for 70km range
I said the Zero SR would need to be plated, and is just an example of a powerful ebike, not as you seem to think every ebike has 300 watts and goes 30km/h. Just as you can buy shitty Chinese electric cars or a Tesla.
There was some other guy on these boards that has a regular looking ebike, but has a massive motor in it, he says it can out perform a 250cc bike, but a 125cc would be fine for you. I can't remember the guys name and the search function is crap, but those bikes are out there, go find one.
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why did i remove my last post?
shit this is a open THREAD
IMO you are just brain dead and how can people advise you?
But i hope you can still read this .....
Foreigner in motor accident to be deported for illegal activities
December 11, 2013
A male foreigner who was involved in an incident of "foreign man blackmailed when helping a woman who fell down" will be fined and deported from China for illegal activities, Beijing police said on Wednesday.
The police said the unnamed foreigner did hit a Chinese woman while riding his motorbike, causing minor injuries of the woman on Dec. 2.
Based on video records and verifications, Beijing police found the foreigner had no driving license and his motorcycle had no license plate, and he was carrying a passenger on his motorcycle and driving on the wrong way.
He was given punishment including seven-day detention and a fine of 1,500 yuan for his aforementioned violations of traffic regulations, said police.
Police also found that the man and his father were working in Beijing without permit. According to relevant Chinese laws, he will be detained for five days and fined 5,000 yuan, and his father will be detained 14 days and fined for 10,000 yuan. They will be deported from China according to law, police said.
Their employer will be fined 20,000 yuan, according to police.
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