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Hi there.
I just started with bikes, Im riding a 125 zontes tiger.
I love the bike but I would like to change its exhaust, but im completely new to this, so what should I consider when getting aftermarket exhaust, so everything will be compatible and working.
Or if any of you owns a tiger, maybe you could recommend me some nice exhausts.
Thank you.
Is that four stroke? If it is, then AFAIK you can change the muffler to pretty much anything or remove it completely, it will only affect sounds as long as you don't change the muffler to something which restricts the exhaust gass flow.
I could be wrong here, though.
Thank you for the answer.
Yes it is a four stroke, what muffler would you advice me to buy for this bike?
The original exhaust looks like that -
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ZONTES-TIG...AAAOSwstxVXLEt
Sorry I can only recommend you use the exhaust you have, it looks to be allright.
It is ok, but I would like to get a more deeper sound, theres really nothing that you could recommend me?
I understand very well that good sounds are part of a good driving experience. But I can't recommend anything because I don't know what kind of tools and help you have there. If you have a friend who is a mechanic and have a repair shop, then it is pretty much all the same what you buy because he can replace the exhaust and mod it good for you. But if you don't have that, then you should buy some so called "after market" exhaust for 125 cc four stroke bike, which have about the same install points as your current exhaust have. Or if you can weld and have access to welding machine, then you can again buy pretty much anything as you can weld things on the exhaust so that it stays good on your bike. But if you want to weld something, then check if the exhaust is aluminium or iron, as they are different metals to weld.Quote:
Originally Posted by paruka
If you don't modify the fuel supply and air intake, then 125 cc aftermarket exhaust is in general good for you because it only makes the sounds louder. If you buy, for example, some 500 cc bike after market exhaust you will get an exhaust which is designed for 500 cc exhaust gasses, that is, it is bigger and heavier, it costs you more, and you don't benefit of it at all.
That your exhaust looks like it would be not the most tirivial exhaust to change, unless you manage to find after market exhaust designed just for your bike.
I will ask in the local garage, what they would advice me to do about the exhaust, thank you for your answer.
I have another question, this may be obvious to you but as I said Im a complete newbie.
Ive ordered some new indicators or turn signals however you want to call them, I know how to change them but the wires of the indicators I bought are different, and they dont fit in a slot.
Here are the pictures.
Attachment 17756
New indicators
Attachment 17757
Current indicators
I was about to change the indicators today but then I saw the wires are different than in my current indicators.
I just found that video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13DRKYDfyW4 - zontes panther with a danmoto gp exhaust, I love the sound.
And panthers exhaust is pretty much the same as in the tiger.
Oh my days, and I also found a user of this forum that has zontes panther with lextek exhaust
http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/group.php?groupid=22
I will leave him a message and see if he answers.
Eventually they go to the battery of your bike. Just clip wires going into your indicators and attach those new wires. You can go to some electronics shop and buy different connectors for each end of wire, and solder them, or you could just solder right away the wire ends to each other. You should buy a small "tightening" rubber sock for wires. You push the wire inside of it and heat the sock, it will squeeze tightly over the wire, hence protecting it from the elements and shortcuts.
Edit: Oh, by the way, if you bought led indicators and you at the moment don't have led indicators, then you need a resistor set wired too.
Hello.
I wrote a message to Lextek, they replied to me that they have seen people taking off the muffler of my bike and putting a different one in, they adviced me to get that exhaust -
http://www.lextekproducts.com/125202027.php
Do you think I might need a connecting pipe or a reducer so this will fit? where can I get these from?
Thank you.
Most probably you will need a reducer, they seem to say inlet diameter is 51 mm. You can go measure what is the diameter of the exhaust pipe just before your current muffler. Price is very nice in that Lextek in my opinion, and it should restrict less the exhaust gasses than your current muffler.
Hello.
Thank you very much again, I have few more questions.
Is this the right what Ive put on the picture?
Attachment 17765
And If I will need a reducer, is it something like this, I just need to find the right size?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MOTORCYCLE...YAAOxy69JTGH7d
What if the muffler inlet is smaller than the pipe, you obviously wont be able to fit it right, then you need a connecting pipe?
If the muffler inlet is bigger than the pipe, you just use 1 reducer? or you can use couple of reducers?
And a stupid question, whats a gasket and what does it look like. Do I need a gasket with this muffler or I already have one?
Yeah, you have understood it right. Very good! Remember that those things are very simple and common sense and creativity can take you far, and of course you have to have hand skills, but those you can develop when you get experience working with iron.
A gasket is like a seal, it makes the connections so very tight that no leakage happens through. I haven't had in my bikes gaskets in lateral exhaust. The pipes has slid so deep and been so tighly tightened that no fumes has came out of other places except from where they are supposed to go out, and what is the easiest route from them to go out.
That your muffler seems to be iron, so it is easy to work with. You should consider opening your muffler and modding what is inside of it to get better gas flow and sounds. Maybe there are youtube videos or other articles to give you an idea what to do with the interiors of your muffler, which are again simple constructs, but a welding machine is a must.
What if the muffler inlet is smaller than the pipe, you obviously wont be able to fit it right, then you need a connecting pipe?
If the muffler inlet is bigger than the pipe, you just use 1 reducer? or you can use couple of reducers?
I dont want to play around with my muffler, I will just get the lextek.
And I have a little problem with my current exhaust, it started just today, when I rev the bike and then let go, the exhausts does like 2 or 3 cracks/pops, should I leave it like that or it may do something wrong to the bike?
In theory you could use reducers to either of the tubes, onto that coming from the engine and onto that going into the muffler.Quote:
Originally Posted by paruka
Important things are
1) don't restrict or block the flow of exhaust gasses
2) Attach your muffler securely, so that it does not drop away when you drive.
I think that if your exhaust cracks and pops when you rev down, then the engine might get too much fuel, which does not burn inside the engine but rather in the exhaust tube. Not sure though.
I will check your theory about the fuel, and is it harmful to the bike or nothing to worry about?
Well at least it increases fuel consumption.Quote:
Originally Posted by paruka
I just saw that theres a little hole in the muffler on the bottom and Im thinking if I should keep riding the bike or not.
Is it possible that the muffler cracked, or some mufflers might have a hole there?
You could try to see if some exhaust gases are coming out of it If nothing comes out of it, it should not matter.
Hello.
Will these indicators work if I connect the wires to the Bullet Connectors?
Like in the video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPhzMGu-jCU
Connectors - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Motorcycle...AAAOSwuTxV-iym
Will surely work.
(Though, there is no link to the indicators. LED indicators will not work properly.)