Taobao Dealers

Many of us buy parts from taobao. I suggest here we share our experiences with different taobao dealers. What made me start this thread was frustrating experience with one of the dealers. Probably we could share our buying experience and help each other with choosing where to buy spares at.

So, Comstar Rims.

Taobao link: http://bestrim.taobao.com/?spm=2013.1.2-1cATMb.1

Location: Shanghai

Experience: 22 May 2012 I ordered two 17x3.5 rims from them. One should be 34 spokes, another one - 36 spokes. They said 36 spokes' rim should be custom made and the price would be that of 2 rims. I paid for 3 rims all in all. They asked me to confirm delivery at once so that they had money on their hands to pay the factory. I confirmed the delivery.
Their page says making custom rims takes 20 days. 20 June 2012 they contact me and say that "the factory rims were faulty and they'd delay the shipment they knew not for how long". I waited until today, 29 June 2012. No shipment.
I called the mobile phone number given on the website: 13801646233 at 9:00 am today.
The sleepy lady said she was in the hospital so she couldn't do anything about my rims and my payment. She said she'd "check with the factory and get back to me". She knew nothing about alleged factory rims problem.

Opinion: I find this "service" extremely frustrating and requiring legal action.

Good experience to balance it:

Shop name: zanin

Taobao Link: http://shop57749847.taobao.com/?spm=2013.1.2-2IuKR8.1

Location: Jiangsu Province, Nanjing City

Experience: big choice of various oil/liquids/lubricants. The shop is located in Nanjing, so the delivery has been superfast. Oils seem to be not fake and work as they should.

Nice leather bags from taobao:

Shop name: yiaiju

Taobao Link: http://shop63060243.taobao.com/?spm=2013.1.kSrl-PHH7K.1

Location: Guangdong Province, Guangzhou City

Experience : lots of bags for different bikes/models. Good quality, fast delivery. The salesperson was very polite and asked a few questions about the usage of bags and warned me that those I had bought were for a specific model only. Quite professional.

Another set of bags from taobao:

Shop name: 麦兜吆

Taobao Link: http://qdoutdoor.taobao.com/?spm=2013.1.1000126.3

Location: Shandong Province, Qingdao City

Experience: lots of bags on that website, branded ones too. I got me 2 pairs of MotoFizz bags, both of which fit nicely on my bikes. Universal strap mount helps. You can mount/unmount bags easily. Took them through rain and snow and dirt and what not - prime quality! Expensive, yes, but well worth it. Superfast delivery is also a plus.

Shop where I bought bars for my QingQi 125cc cafe':

Shop name: 神马摩托改装

Taobao Link: http://emons.taobao.com/?spm=a1z0b.7.2-6943349507.2

Location: Guangdong Province, Zhongshan City

Experience: got lots of mods for lots of bikes. High quality stuff, too. My bars went on nicely and haven't been an issue. Most of things are for small displacement motorbikes, but I didn't really go through all of the pages. I guess everybody here on this website could find something they'd be interested in. Delivery time was standard - 3 days. Package was ok when received. No damage.

Mirrors Shop:

Shop name: yuchanggui11

Taobao Link: http://shop59255669.taobao.com

Location: Zhejiang Province, Wenzhou City

Experience: this shop is dedicated to selling motorbike mirrors. Only. And they have a huge selection of whatever mirrorf you can think of. Be it a Harley or a 125 cc something-bike, they got the aftermarket mirrors for it. Mine arrived on time - 3 days and the package was complete with tools to set mirrors up, bar-end adapters and the bolts needed. It facilitated the installation. The mirrors are CNC and look very good. Useful as well, since they got anti-reflective coating, which works nicely in direct sunlight.

Please also input where's the dealers located. The bag got fast delivery because it's from Shandong :naughty:

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Originally Posted by humanbeing

Please also input where's the dealers located. The bag got fast delivery because it's from Rizhao ,Shandong :naughty:

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OK, sure.

Just posting this here since Taobao comes up in the search...

Be careful with Taobao.com came across a scam with a real motorcycle dealer who has been a seller on Taobao since 2008, but just opened a motorcycle shop several months ago (he had a blue diamond too). Negotiated a deal on a (legal) brand new motorcycle for a substantial amount of money (RMB) I'm not talking a 125cc or 250cc bike either.

Everything progressed well, until trying to organise the payment. Because of the sum involved we couldn't use a Chinese issued credit card because the dealer didn't want to have to pay the transaction fee. I offered to reimburse for this (e.g add to the price). With the price we had to go to the bank, to make some amendments to the Alipay linked bank account. Done. Then when we wanted to put the money into Alipay the dealer directed us to www.me.alipay.com - seemed odd.

Checked the site at the time, looked convincing, but something didn't add up. Made calls to both Taobao and Alipay (wangwang) and sure enough me.alipay is not Alipay, and has no affiliation with Taobao or Alipay (wangwang). So no guarantees.

In this case, the dealer had a Alipay account too, but wanted the funds placed into this other me.alipay account. When challenged the dealer just said, he needed the funds into the me.alipay account otherwise he couldn't issue the correct tax invoice needed to get the licence plate.

Seems there was/is a copy of Alipay called "me.alipay" which looks just like Alipay, but has no affiliation. Me.alipay.com is not an escrow type service, meaning funds placed into an me.alipay.com account go directly into a sellers nominated bank account!!! Once that happens you can't get funds back.

After a complaint which both Alipay and Taobao are investigating at the moment, the dealers Taobao shop front have been removed from Taobao, although the dealer is still linked with Taobao. Just cannot see any of his bikes or anything he's selling or trying to sell. We have been advised we will be contacted by Taobao and Alipay at the end of the week long investigation. Seems me.alipay.com has been taken down too.

You don't have to have completed the purchase on Taobao to make a complaint about a dealer/seller on Taobao.

Just be warned.

Thank you, will warn my wife, since she does a lot of stuff on taobao. Heard about the scam with an alipay-looking website from my students, but nobody gave me its address.
Thank you.

Well have stumbled on another dealer selling the same high priced motorcycle and almost 40% off, requesting the same payment method. The seller has lots of hearts, and is in Guangdong, as opposed to the previous seller who was in Shanghai.

I have determined that me.alipay.com is part of alipay.com but was set up so that Chinese people could give monetary donations directly for the Sichuan earthquake. Hence why it is applied automatically to anyone with a Alipay (wangwang) account. Now some sellers (less than honest it would seem) are trying to use it to trick potential buyers into using it for payment, as the me.alipay has much of the same look as alipay.com

We will be making a complaint about this alternative seller we have been communicating with today. The seller insisted that we can pay a 5% deposit only paid into me.alipay.com, even we offered the to pay the full amount into alipay.com, the seller declined. That in itself is a red flag. The seller refusing to use alipay.com and insists on payment into me.alipay.com is another red flag.

The discount on the purchase price of the motorcycle is some 20K less than it should be, and the motorcycle is new supposedly still in the box.

20K discount sounds a bit dodgy.
If the business is legit and the bike is as advertised, why go through direct payment? Something just doesn't add up here. Still better buy a bike after you see it and all.

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Originally Posted by Steve_Halt

20K discount sounds a bit dodgy.
If the business is legit and the bike is as advertised, why go through direct payment? Something just doesn't add up here. Still better buy a bike after you see it and all.

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Exactly. Dodgy as Dodge. With the SH dealer initially he said he has a store, even had photos of a motocycle shop with bikes on display. Then when he insisted on payment put into me.alipay.com and not alipay.com, we said, um, ok, we will go to SH to visit the shop, see the bike (new) and pay him in cash. He then said, oh he has a warehouse full of bikes and not a shop (red flag), and no he couldn't be paid in cash (red flag) as he needed the money into the me.alipay.com account so he could obtain the fapiao (red flag). So for that shop it was easy as it is like a 3 hour drive on the expressway from here. The second dealer/seller is in Guangdong, not exactly a short half day drive. With the second dealer, when we were getting ready to make the complaint with Taobao about it, the link for the bike went down. The dealer/seller still exists and has other bikes for sale, but just the link to the bike in question is gone.

Yes, so getting to see a bike or anything up front, close and personal is best, nut not always doable. We use Taobao to buy all manner of items almost daily, and have little incident. Yes some crap is just that, crap, and only reinforces my belief in one gets what one pays for. Yesterday we talked with another Taobao motorcycle dealer in SH, about a new C650GT for 178K. Price seems like it would be about right for a legal bike, and is well above most others for sale on Taobao. When asked about legality, plates and so forth, it seemed like the seller said yes, ok. But when read more carefully he actually hadn't answered the question about legality. So during the Taobao Wang discussion, we asked again, more clearly... the dealer wouldn't respond.

I've read many stories of Chinese motorcyclists dealing with unscrupulous sellers via different methods selling motorcycles, often the Chinese buyer goes to another city to "see" the bike and buying it, first convinced to pay a deposit to get the ball rolling, being provided all types of false assurances and what not, only for the seller and bike to disappear with the buyers cash. Phone numbers no longer working etc.

All kinds of tricks.

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Originally Posted by bikerdoc

Exactly. Dodgy as Dodge. With the SH dealer initially he said he has a store, even had photos of a motocycle shop with bikes on display. Then when he insisted on payment put into me.alipay.com and not alipay.com, we said, um, ok, we will go to SH to visit the shop, see the bike (new) and pay him in cash. He then said, oh he has a warehouse full of bikes and not a shop (red flag), and no he couldn't be paid in cash (red flag) as he needed the money into the me.alipay.com account so he could obtain the fapiao (red flag). So for that shop it was easy as it is like a 3 hour drive on the expressway from here. The second dealer/seller is in Guangdong, not exactly a short half day drive. With the second dealer, when we were getting ready to make the complaint with Taobao about it, the link for the bike went down. The dealer/seller still exists and has other bikes for sale, but just the link to the bike in question is gone.

Yes, so getting to see a bike or anything up front, close and personal is best, nut not always doable. We use Taobao to buy all manner of items almost daily, and have little incident. Yes some crap is just that, crap, and only reinforces my belief in one gets what one pays for. Yesterday we talked with another Taobao motorcycle dealer in SH, about a new C650GT for 178K. Price seems like it would be about right for a legal bike, and is well above most others for sale on Taobao. When asked about legality, plates and so forth, it seemed like the seller said yes, ok. But when read more carefully he actually hadn't answered the question about legality. So during the Taobao Wang discussion, we asked again, more clearly... the dealer wouldn't respond.

I've read many stories of Chinese motorcyclists dealing with unscrupulous sellers via different methods selling motorcycles, often the Chinese buyer goes to another city to "see" the bike and buying it, first convinced to pay a deposit to get the ball rolling, being provided all types of false assurances and what not, only for the seller and bike to disappear with the buyers cash. Phone numbers no longer working etc.

All kinds of tricks.

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Yes, right. Actually I'm not sure you can get the bike plated once you get it from taobao. I mean, even with all the certificates and papers and tax forms and what not I guess it'll still be much more painful than having a shop representative do it for you.
But once again - that's just a guess, they're tough on bikes here in Nanjing.
Then again - should there be something wrong or missing in the papers - it'll be trouble sending the bike back or inquiring for missing papers from the dealer.

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