newbie needs help with l.e.d indicators

hi everyone out there,


great site and keep up the good work,
an absolute honor to be a member of such valuable and resourceful site.

now here is my dilemma, got my beautiful little kbr200sm about a month ago and decided to swap out the halogens for l.e.d indicators, but have hit a little snag:confused1:
when i originally hooked up the new led's, i just plugged them in and didn't change the flasher relay and when i turned on the indicator i had hazard lights instead, all 4 at once
changed the flasher relay to a motorcycle led unit, but could only get a 3 pin relay and the bike is only 2 pin
the bloke at the motorcycle shop told me to run a wire from the negative battery terminal to the corresponding pin on the new relay, ran the wire and alas, all 4 at once again :gaah:
so i changed the connection order and got a thin line through the middle of the lights

is there something that i am missing here? currently have the 2 rear led's on and the original halogens at the front without any problems. am now totally confused, has anyone else out there had any similar experience's with led's?
photo shows original flasher on bike and new led one
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red flasher
31 - battery negative
49a - indicator switch
49 - battery positive

green flasher
black wire - positive
grey wire - indicators

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I wonder if something like this is what you need;

http://www.electrosport.com/products...etail-2027.php

I found it by searching for a two prong LED relay. I'm thinking about switching mine over to LED also to save some wattage so I'm interested in your results.

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Originally Posted by david3921

I wonder if something like this is what you need;

http://www.electrosport.com/products...etail-2027.php

I found it by searching for a two prong LED relay. I'm thinking about switching mine over to LED also to save some wattage so I'm interested in your results.

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thanks for the info david, i will chase that one up and let you know how it all goes
cheers mate and safe riding

well just a quick update,
ended up getting a two pin electronic relay which should have solved the problem for
changed the relay, hooked up front led's and low and behold.....................all bloody four went off again
so after a trip to my next door neighbor (auto-elec lucky me) i discovered that due to how these bikes are wired that i also need to run a resistor (i think that's what he said) to put the indicators under load when there turned on.
should be getting mine all fixed in next day or two so will get back to you all and let you know the outcome. Should also be getting my new led stop/tail light sometime this week as well so will post pics as soon as its all on and bike should look pretty smic.

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Originally Posted by stromnes

i also need to run a resistor (i think that's what he said) to put the indicators under load when there turned on

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You should have been told from the start that to use an LED as an indicator bulb you have to fit a 'ballast resistor' because the power draw is lower.

I have to say that those I know who have tried LED's as incidcator bulbs have returned to stock because the LED's don't give as much light as an equivalent sized incandescent. Yes, more light per watt drawn, perhaps more light in one narrow direction, but less overall light output per mount. If you see what I mean. With indicators, the brighter the safer!!

However, if you find different please post.

problem solved


at last some good news for you all, fitted resistors last night , plugged in front indicators, crossed my fingers and "hallelujah"
everything works an absolute treat now, so i decided in a moment of madness to change position of indicators and hopefully give it something of a unique look
ended up mounting them in the vents on either side of the front headlight


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cheers and safe riding for all

Nice mod!

How is the light output?

CC

thanks Carl,


don't know in amps or anything but been riding with a couple of mates who are doing the same thing to there bikes as well now, and they said there actually brighter than the original halogens
also finally received the rear tail/stop light today and just finished fitting i really like it sets the bike off.
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Originally Posted by stromnes

thanks Carl,


don't know in amps or anything but been riding with a couple of mates who are doing the same thing to there bikes as well now, and they said there actually brighter than the original halogens
also finally received the rear tail/stop light today and just finished fitting i really like it sets the bike off.
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Hi
Can you tell where did you get the tail light?
Thanks

hi superfamous

just picked them up off e-bay for $39aus. came from a local guy here in Melbourne, but he imports them from over seas somewhere

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Originally Posted by stromnes

hi superfamous

just picked them up off e-bay for $39aus. came from a local guy here in Melbourne, but he imports them from over seas somewhere

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Hi
thank you for your reply.
I ordered one from the eBay, later I'll post pictures.
cheers

Hey mate, just went through the same problem as you with the led indicators, Found a much easier fix, just take out the small globe on the instrument panel that blinks when you put the blinkers on, unlinks the 2 circuits and bang prob sorted.

Just wondered im waiting on my last led brake light licence plate light in one to arrive, did you have any probs with the rear brake light at all, and have you been pulled for not having a plate illum light?

looks good by the way, im also waiting on a new front headlight fairing i hate the stock one, really doesnt suit it, ive got a 10 globe led + 2 halogen kit coming, looking forward to getting that on,

also have a new set of bars and a digital instrument cluster so i can rip out the old and ugly stock speedo, high beam, indi, neutral box and mount the slimline.

hey mate, great little bikes arent they,
my rear led for brake/licence plate actually has the plate illum light built into it
at night its brilliant white and the plate stands out a mile.
post some pics of your bike when your finished

cheers matt

Yeah mate for the money you cant compain, i was intending on getting rid of it after i was off my P's but there less then 150 for rego and run on nothing, after all the mods ive done, its a lot quicker, + stripped all the ugly stock tail lights blinkers, chain guard etc etc, i went nuts on it, debagded it and taken all stickers off, with the new exhaust it doesnt sound like a 200, more like a 450f, gets the looks where ever i go, ppl have no idea what it is, and thats alot better than explaining what the hell a kinlon is hahahaa....
Seriously get rid of the stock exhaust and run a pod filter, change the jetting and im also running racing plug with premium and youll notice alot of difference,

its a fun little bike now. will be keeping it even after i get my r6

Come on mate, PICS! Everyone has got a camera somewhere ...

im waiting for the rest of my gear to arrive in the mail then ill make a thread on it mate