Does anybody know of a big bore kit available for the Suzuki/Qingiqi 57.0mm x 48.8mm 125cc engine like below........perhaps a 150cc kit?
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/6992/1246601738.jpg
Thanks in advance
Karl
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Does anybody know of a big bore kit available for the Suzuki/Qingiqi 57.0mm x 48.8mm 125cc engine like below........perhaps a 150cc kit?
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/6992/1246601738.jpg
Thanks in advance
Karl
the kit in doemstic market
Wow! Only 40USD!!! :eekers:
http://img06.taobaocdn.com/bao/uploa...pg_310x310.jpg
I wonder how difficult it would be to buy a 200cc head and stick it on?
CC
That is brilliant guy's, i just now need to work out how to purchase and ship to England, any idea's?
As for cylinder heads the origional on my bike has tiny 26/24mm valves so i have just bought a Chinese GS125 head with 30/26mm valves
Thanks again
Karl
There's some great stuff to be had off Taobao at surprisingly low cost. Unlike the US, P&P costs are not prohibitive either.Quote:
Originally Posted by k44rll
Trouble is there is no English version. I'm told that for folk outside China, access to Taobao.com is taboo, especially if you don't have a credit card issued by a Chinese bank (but how about HSBC, that's Chinese 'aint it?)
But fear not, you could still get goods from Taobao and this website will help you to find out how: http://taobaofieldguide.com/taobao-in-english
I favour the 'agent' route: http://buyfromtaobao.com/ or http://www.taobaotrends.com/
Any of you China based guys know of these agents? Are they what they say they are or is there a good one you can recommend?
Thanks davidqc....just ordered with TaobaoNow.com and i will keep you posted on how it goes
Cheers
Karl
Quote:
Originally Posted by k44rll
Please do Karl, it would be very useful cos I've seen some goodies on there I rather fancy getting myself.
Buyer beware on Taobao. Most of the sellers are idiots with little or no clue about the goods they sell. If you see a picture and are absolutely sure the item is correct, go for it, but if you're shipping international, be very careful. I've never done a thorough study, but I would estimate ninety percent of the motorcycle "shops" on Taobao are simply employees of the factories slipping stuff out the back door. Many of the parts are samples or QC rejects which can be difficult to dispute after you have paid. I think this is the real reason credit card companies are not interested in getting involved... just too much risk.
That said, I do use it from time to time and occasionally have positive results. Being in China, the shipping is cheap and you can recharge your account at any post office, very convenient.
Cheers!
ChinaV
Thanks for the heads up ChinaV, i have ordered a cheap oil cooler kit via Taobao.com just to test the water with shipping costs etc
I have also made a contact via Ebay in China who is sourcing my big bore kit from www.motosd.com
I'll keep you posted
Thanks again
Karl
No parts yet
Well done so far Karl. :clap:
I eagerly await your post of a successful outcome. Nowt like being a pioneer, what! :lol8:
Karl, is there an attachment point on your case to install the cooler or will you have to drill and tap? I see one of the hoses attaches at the new filter cover.
We've talked about it here;
http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/sh...ght=oil+cooler
Others have tried to get the Suzuki one from the "farm" DR200 over at Adventure Riders without much luck.
Shipping cost from "TB Now" is quite expensive:naughty: (The REAL rate : shipping agents :naughty: by every means : Hongkong Post/ Singapore Post/ Royal Mail :naughty: )Quote:
Originally Posted by k44rll
Hi DavidQuote:
Originally Posted by david3921
I read the Dr200 thead over at ADVRider ( i posted the pictures of the Japanese spec DF200's) and was going to post a link as soon as i got the oil cooler and knew it would fit
The kit contains a new oil filter housing to which a cooler pipe fits and the second one mounts on the "Main Oil Gallery Plug" as Suzuki call it.....
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/7302/enoilcooler.jpg
You can see the "Main Oil Gallery Plug" as item 9 on this DR200 parts fiche
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/7175/screen01t.jpg
I will post more pictures and report on quality as soon as i receive it both on here and ADV Rider
Karl
Yes i guessed the Shipping costs were a bit steep:rolleyes1:Quote:
Originally Posted by humanbeing
I have just had a big bore kit (cylinder/piston/gaskets) sent DHL 2-3days from China and that was only £24 or $37.50
I'm looking at buying a quantity of parts from China but will have to sort the Shipping rates out or find someone local to deal direct with?
Karl
Karl, thanks for the reply. The location for the hose (according to the manual) is where the oil pressure is checked so it looks like it was well thought out. I know the stock oil cooler has different hose mounting points but as long as it works it's all good. Do you have ideas where you are going to mount it and if it will have any guarding?
The factory oil cooler does use the Main Oil Gallery feed, so is at least 50% like stock :mwink:
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/517...f80004797o.jpg
as for mounting it isn't going on a DR so i'm not quite sure yet and not using the bike off road i shouldn't need any guard as such (famous last words?)
I will measure the oil lines when it arrives so you can get an idea on where it is possible to mount it
Karl
Well the Oil cooler turned up on Tuesday all well and re-packaged in a TaobaoNow.com box unlike some of the usual Chinese parcels i have received
All parts are there and look decent quality.....
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/7239/img0756w.jpg
As soon as the weather clears (snow) i will get in the garage and fit the oil cooler and let you know how it goes?
Karl
Karl, did they short you a bango bolt or is it hidden in the picture? You should have two, one for your new cap and one for the lower mount.
Yes they are just above the oil cooler, they are bolted together with an adaptor just to save losing the sealing washers and the new oil filter spring etc
Karl
I was looking at the Qingqi factory site, and looked at a QM200GY-B(BSD)Y..... It has the FACTORY Qingqi oil cooler installed! It's filter housing has a threaded boss it lookes like for the return hose fitting, but I would think you could drill and tap this as the housing is fairly substantial. All we need is the newer parts manual to order the cooler----------
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http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/6992/1246601738.jpg
Does anybody know the model of that carb???
The stock carb is made by a Mikuni jv in Chengdu Model: vm22-4101Quote:
Originally Posted by Overdose no WC
anyone tried this big bore kit yet?
I'm interested in picking one up for my 2003 suzuki DRZ 125, however my drz has a domed piston, this kit appears to be flat top. If I could find a matching head that would work with my drz I would buy one too, as mine is damaged
That kit had domned version (same price, need contact the seller first)Quote:
Originally Posted by MrBlah
HiQuote:
Originally Posted by k44rll
Karl did you already mount the oil cooler?
I want to mount a oil cooler, but the kit that you bought is too expensive for me. In Portugal when we import things from outside the EU that cost above 22€, we have to pay very high border taxes . So I decided to buy a radiator like this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...id=p2759.l1259
I will have to drill the oil filter cover, but I think that will be easy.
I also have to buy a bolt like the one from the kit you bought, to attach on the Main Oil Gallery Plug and and to allow the bolts from the kit to screw in. The bolts from the kit are a M10, Anyone knows what is the size of the Main Oil Gallery Plug (9 in the picture above)? I already searched on the brazilian manual but there is no information about the size of this plug.
I made a paper model of the radiator, I think that it can perfectly fit on the left side of the bike, like in this picture:
Attachment 1879
Attachment 1878
Cheers
Mario
Hello Guys! I am also interested in setting up an oil cooler on my bike seems to me that the big question of all is
: how do the oil passing through the radiator? A new gasket breaks one of the passages of oil to go through it before the radiator.
Look at these two photos
Unfortunately I can not speak English and the google translator does not help me much because they speak Brazilian Portuguese is a little different in Portugal
In the text I wrote above can not explain anything and I would like someone to help me.
excuse me
Hi luisQuote:
Originally Posted by Luis Carlos
I'm Portuguese and I understand very well your doubt. I can help you with the english (I you want PM to me please)
I already thought about that two holes. I'm not a expert, but I thik that oil normally come out from the hole B to the Hole A, passing through the filter. If we install de radiator without doing nothing to these holes I don't know if the oil will come to the radiator or just go through the Hole A, as the oil does normally in our's bikes.
The best thing it would be to have a picture of the oil filter case of the Suzuki DR200 TROJAN that forchetto talks about. It appears to be the same engine but with a oil radiator.
Attachment 1884
Thank you
Mario
You can buy a genuine Suzuki bolt part# 09360-14015 , this is used on the DF200 Suzuki with oil cooler. . .Quote:
Originally Posted by superfamous
Thanks Karl for your help
But the plug that your are talking about its the same size of the plug of Main Oil Gallery Plug, and that will not fit on the kit that I will buy, because it's too wide.
In your Kit you have a bolt that will attach on the Main Oil Galley, and at the same time will allow that other smaller bolt will screw in it. It works like a pipe, letting the oil pass.
Do you understand? my english is not very good.
Attachment 1886
By the way, do you know if the radiator will work on your bike? the holes issue that I and Luis talked about is not a problem? There is not the risk that the oil won't come to the radiator, and just simply goes to the other hole in the oil filter case?
Cheers
Mario