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Attachment 1181brought this other day was told its a suzuko 200cc it does say that on enginecover and seat but i cant find any info on google about at all ive been told its the same bike as a gy 125 200 and kinrod is this ture and info u can give me would be great so i can find parts .
great site by the way i new to bikes and spent awhile reading posts on here and some great info about.
Chanley,
That's an interesting bike you have there! Where are you from?
Your bike looks like it's a mixture of many bikes... sometimes we call these "Franken-bikes".
The engine looks like a Honda based engine but getting a second opinion on that would not be bad.
CC
thanks for ur reply im from the uk england huddersfield i got the bike as a project to use as a field bike it does say suzuko on engine and seat and i was told it was 200cc im just trying to find out so i can buy parts it needs a acc cable and a cutuch cable and i dont know what to buy .
What's the first 8-digit of the "VIN"? I may help u to decode who made the bike & the engine was made in-house or out-sourced by comaring infos in chinese pges.
This would certainly help, having the first 8 alphanumerics of the VIN.Quote:
Originally Posted by humanbeing
Chanley02 gives the engine as 163FMI, which is a single cyl four stroke air-cooled 125cc unit - yet he says it's 200cc. Can only think it has a big bore kit fitted? Mmm....as CC says, a Franken-Bike! :mwink: Unless the engine no. is 163FML
Chanley02, it would help even more to have the make and model numbers from the V5 and check engine no is 163FMI and not 163FML.
Over to you Bro. :icon10:
it mght just be a 125 im not sure to be honest im only going on what the person said it was im thinking its a skyteam 125 from what ive seen i only have 1 side plastic and 1 tank plastic i saw a set the same on ebay and he said they was for a crf or skyteam ill check number on engine again for u where on the bike would i find the vin on frame i had a good look but never found it but ill look again.
as it could be a L at the end its just hard to make out if it is a L at end does that mean its a 200cc.
I knew you were in Britain, I recognised the rain.
Sometimes on engines, the displacement is marked on the bottom of the cyliner, under the cooling fins. Failing that a pretty good guess could be had by measuring the depth of the piston stroke, this can be done by shoving a rod through the plug hole and moving the flywheel to the bottom stroke, or remove the cylinder and measure the wear mark on the cylinder wall and measuring the diameter of the cylinder use the formula for measuring the volume of a cylinder. Yeah a bit of a job, but at least you can scrutinise the rings at the same time.
I think there is another method one can use too, involving fluid, either measure out 125cc, 200cc or whatever of oil and injecting it into the spark plug hole, if you bung in 200cc, and don't all fit in, you know what it is not. Or inject oil in, until it gets to the bottom of the spark plug hole, then suck it out, ( with syringe or similar), into a fluid measure. To get the oil out, crank the motor, it will eject most of it, all over the place, shove in the plug and run the motor if it will run, might have to clean the plug a few times from being shorted out with oil, but when it fires and runs, the blue smoke will tell you it's burning off, either that or just let the residue drain through the rings into the sump.
Looking at the bike though, I am thinking pit bike here, or an early version of it, they I believe run with 125, 140,200, 250 cc capacities, perhaps try asking on a pit bike forum.
It's just I can't find any listing on the Chinese data bases for a 163FMI (the 'I' is for a 125cc). But there is one for a 163FML - the 'L' is for 200cc or just under.Quote:
Originally Posted by chanley02
So I guess you don't have the V5? Bummer. :eekers:
i bet its a l then so it is a 200cc i dont have any papers or owt for the bike i just got it as it is in the pic and a few plastics with it i have some pics of the plastics i have would this help find out what bike it is i thought it was a gy but i brought a set of plastics they dont fit but looking more is rather a old crf frame with this engine in or a skyteam as the 2 plastics i have match them.
i just wish i could find the right cables so i can ride the thing lol u guys are doing a great job in helping me thxs
Problems are fun.
Vin number, well on mine, it is on the headset tube where the steering is, dotted in vertically. If it is there on yours, it might be under paint judging by what you said about it looking like it has been repainted. It might be helpful if other members say where their vin nunber is on their bikes of different manufacturer, so you can get ideas of where to look
lol covered in paint lad that had this bike bike before made a mess of it as u can see look at the folks and plastics i think he wanted it to look like a kx125 lol with the green kaw paint but im working on that i have ordered a universal clutch cable only 6 quid so thought id try it .
Chanley, way to be persistent. I've spent some time looking at the photo of your bike and think you have a super Franken-ride.
The way the exhaust pipe just bends out and comes back tells me a new engine was dropped in a frame and they added the simplest workable exhaust system they could on there (be careful about that pipe BTW). The plastics don't make much sense to me and I can't visibly find any two pieces that really look like they could be from the same set. I think the universal was a good move and will at least give you something to work with. Balancing the cable housing length with the cable length can be more mysterious than I originally thought. When you find the right size combination, take it to a part place and see if you can find a standnard (non-universal) unit that matches or comes very close to yours. Install the standard one and if it works, be sure to write down what model cable it is and maybe even buy an extra if they aren't too expensive.
It's nice to have an extra cable around sometimes. :icon10:
CC
Hi Chanley02,
You can spend a lot of time trying to figure out who made your bike but unless it has a VIN plate on it your guess is as good as anyones. Even with a VIN plate that says it is made by Chongqing Motorcylce manufacturing Co. Ltd., sadly that isn't even always the truth. I have known containers of bikes and ATVs that have made it into Canada and the USA with 'shall we say' borrowed WMI plates. The name in the bike is almost certainly a name that some importer in your country made up trying to protect themselves from others trying to buy from the same factory and also they likely had big visitions of being the next Honda or Yamaha marketing their brand to the masses. For companies like mine that help people like you to keep your bike running the more info on the bike and the parts you need the better and pictures of your bike and the parts that you are looking for are always helpful.
Make a list of what you are looking for, take lots of pictures if you can and that way when a company like mine goes to find your parts in China my staff there have a much better chance of getting it right hte first time.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Art
By the way VIN = Vehicle Identification Number and WMI is the guys that control those numbering systems = World Manufacturer Identifier